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Charles
Actually... the cold water doesn't make you ingest the water. Most drowning deaths in cold water are caused from fatigue, because the victims do not remember to breathe deeply enough to replace their body's oxygen. Anytime I'm out on the lake in cold weather, I try to bring up that subject with the guy in the back. *Note to self... after reformatting computers... refill the kill-file. Are you sure of what you are saying. I have my info from a researcher (professor) on the topic. The body when it hits cold water there is a shudder reaction. This can cause you to ingest many litres of water. This is quite dangerous and cause you to drown. It doesn't happen in all cases to the same extent. It could cause a strong swimmer to drown. That same swimmer if he folows your reasoning would think he would have to be fatigued in order to drown. After learning this i always wear a pfd in the canoe.. Read about drowning a lot of times the individual jus disappears below the surface. |
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Charles
Actually... the cold water doesn't make you ingest the water. Most drowning deaths in cold water are caused from fatigue, because the victims do not remember to breathe deeply enough to replace their body's oxygen. Anytime I'm out on the lake in cold weather, I try to bring up that subject with the guy in the back. *Note to self... after reformatting computers... refill the kill-file. Are you sure of what you are saying. I have my info from a researcher (professor) on the topic. The body when it hits cold water there is a shudder reaction. This can cause you to ingest many litres of water. This is quite dangerous and cause you to drown. It doesn't happen in all cases to the same extent. It could cause a strong swimmer to drown. That same swimmer if he folows your reasoning would think he would have to be fatigued in order to drown. After learning this i always wear a pfd in the canoe.. Read about drowning a lot of times the individual jus disappears below the surface. |
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http://pedsccm.wustl.edu/all-net/eng...tect/nr-dn.htm
In human adults and animals, immersion in icy water results in involuntary reflex hyperventilation and a decreased breath holding ability to less than 10 seconds http://www.telmedpak.com/homes.asp?a=first_aid&b=nd Drowning can happen in many ways, but all deaths from drowning are due to lack of oxygen (asphyxiation). It is not important whether or not the lungs fill up with water, or whether there is salt water or fresh water. What matters, is that how much oxygen continues to reach the victim's brain. http://www.capital.net/com/nckayak/nck_safety_p4.htm Cold water can kill in three ways. The canoeist probably suffered cold shock resulting in ineffective breathing, rapid onset of panic, confusion, and inneffective swimming, struggling briefly at the surface and then sinking. The marines may have managed the initial cold shock, but the cold water rendered their extremities neuromuscularly dysfunctional within several minutes, causing death by drowning. The fishermen were a more classic case of severe hypothermia, with body chemistry dysfunction causing cardiovascular collapse and death. *** Seems to me that lack of oxygen, coupled with muscle fatigue is the leading causes... not ingesting water. Of course, after you're under water, I guess you will ingest "many litres"... but by then, it's already too late. "Lure builder" wrote in message ... Charles Actually... the cold water doesn't make you ingest the water. Most drowning deaths in cold water are caused from fatigue, because the victims do not remember to breathe deeply enough to replace their body's oxygen. Anytime I'm out on the lake in cold weather, I try to bring up that subject with the guy in the back. *Note to self... after reformatting computers... refill the kill-file. Are you sure of what you are saying. I have my info from a researcher (professor) on the topic. The body when it hits cold water there is a shudder reaction. This can cause you to ingest many litres of water. This is quite dangerous and cause you to drown. It doesn't happen in all cases to the same extent. It could cause a strong swimmer to drown. That same swimmer if he folows your reasoning would think he would have to be fatigued in order to drown. After learning this i always wear a pfd in the canoe.. Read about drowning a lot of times the individual jus disappears below the surface. |
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http://pedsccm.wustl.edu/all-net/eng...tect/nr-dn.htm
In human adults and animals, immersion in icy water results in involuntary reflex hyperventilation and a decreased breath holding ability to less than 10 seconds http://www.telmedpak.com/homes.asp?a=first_aid&b=nd Drowning can happen in many ways, but all deaths from drowning are due to lack of oxygen (asphyxiation). It is not important whether or not the lungs fill up with water, or whether there is salt water or fresh water. What matters, is that how much oxygen continues to reach the victim's brain. http://www.capital.net/com/nckayak/nck_safety_p4.htm Cold water can kill in three ways. The canoeist probably suffered cold shock resulting in ineffective breathing, rapid onset of panic, confusion, and inneffective swimming, struggling briefly at the surface and then sinking. The marines may have managed the initial cold shock, but the cold water rendered their extremities neuromuscularly dysfunctional within several minutes, causing death by drowning. The fishermen were a more classic case of severe hypothermia, with body chemistry dysfunction causing cardiovascular collapse and death. *** Seems to me that lack of oxygen, coupled with muscle fatigue is the leading causes... not ingesting water. Of course, after you're under water, I guess you will ingest "many litres"... but by then, it's already too late. "Lure builder" wrote in message ... Charles Actually... the cold water doesn't make you ingest the water. Most drowning deaths in cold water are caused from fatigue, because the victims do not remember to breathe deeply enough to replace their body's oxygen. Anytime I'm out on the lake in cold weather, I try to bring up that subject with the guy in the back. *Note to self... after reformatting computers... refill the kill-file. Are you sure of what you are saying. I have my info from a researcher (professor) on the topic. The body when it hits cold water there is a shudder reaction. This can cause you to ingest many litres of water. This is quite dangerous and cause you to drown. It doesn't happen in all cases to the same extent. It could cause a strong swimmer to drown. That same swimmer if he folows your reasoning would think he would have to be fatigued in order to drown. After learning this i always wear a pfd in the canoe.. Read about drowning a lot of times the individual jus disappears below the surface. |
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Lack of oxygen is equivalent to ingesting many litres of water from a dousing
in cold water and reflex hyperventilation. At that point fatigue is a given. I other words you are a goner so wear a pfd. |
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Lack of oxygen is equivalent to ingesting many litres of water from a dousing
in cold water and reflex hyperventilation. At that point fatigue is a given. I other words you are a goner so wear a pfd. |
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How much water is in your stomach (Ingesting) has nothing to do with it. In
other words, you are a goober no matter what you're wearing. BTW: I received an e-mail the other day that I should have thought about earlier. There was some pretty good quotes, and my favorite was... "Never argue with an idiot. It's hard for the people watching to figure out which one is the idiot". Needless to say... plonk! "Lure builder" wrote in message ... Lack of oxygen is equivalent to ingesting many litres of water from a dousing in cold water and reflex hyperventilation. At that point fatigue is a given. I other words you are a goner so wear a pfd. |
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How much water is in your stomach (Ingesting) has nothing to do with it. In
other words, you are a goober no matter what you're wearing. BTW: I received an e-mail the other day that I should have thought about earlier. There was some pretty good quotes, and my favorite was... "Never argue with an idiot. It's hard for the people watching to figure out which one is the idiot". Needless to say... plonk! "Lure builder" wrote in message ... Lack of oxygen is equivalent to ingesting many litres of water from a dousing in cold water and reflex hyperventilation. At that point fatigue is a given. I other words you are a goner so wear a pfd. |
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The purpose of my posting was to get people to wear their pfd's. This is
especially so when the water is cold. Maybe in TN the water isn't that cold . Here on some days it is too cold to swim and it is still summertime.. |
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The purpose of my posting was to get people to wear their pfd's. This is
especially so when the water is cold. Maybe in TN the water isn't that cold . Here on some days it is too cold to swim and it is still summertime.. |
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