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Old August 23rd, 2004, 01:32 PM
Jeff Durham
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For those of you that think that PETA is a "good" organization, if you ever
get to talk to one of their whacko members, ask the following questions:

- Is it okay to hunt doves for food? The answer will be an absolute NO
followed by how can you kill a defenseless little bird like a dove.

- What is your stand on abortion? They will claim to be pro-choice (my view
is that means pro-abortion). I do not understand the mentality of these
morons.

Jeff

"bill a" wrote in message
m...
ran across this item, in case you haven't seen it.

bill
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/artic...fm?article=156



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Old August 23rd, 2004, 02:16 PM
AJH
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Just what does eating Doves and abortions have to do with bass fishing?


Git-R-Done

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Old August 23rd, 2004, 04:24 PM
Jeff Durham
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Absolutely nothing. However, this thread was about PETA.

Jeff


"AJH" wrote in message
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Just what does eating Doves and abortions have to do with bass fishing?


Git-R-Done



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Old August 23rd, 2004, 05:45 PM
Scott Seidman
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"Jeff Durham" wrote in news:L_nWc.43$0J6.5
@fe1.columbus.rr.com:

Absolutely nothing. However, this thread was about PETA.

Jeff


"AJH" wrote in message
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Just what does eating Doves and abortions have to do with bass fishing?


Git-R-Done




OK, then how is their anti-dove hunting contradictory to thier overall
mission? They think, and have always thought, hunting for food is not a
good thing.

Scott
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Old August 23rd, 2004, 06:10 PM
Jeff Durham
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Default report on PETA -- PETA contradiction

From PETA's warped perspective, it's okay to kill unborn babies, but not to
kill doves (or fish) for food or sport. If you don't see the contradiction,
then you and I operate on a completely different value system.

Jeff


"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"Jeff Durham" wrote in news:L_nWc.43$0J6.5
@fe1.columbus.rr.com:

Absolutely nothing. However, this thread was about PETA.

Jeff


"AJH" wrote in message
...
Just what does eating Doves and abortions have to do with bass fishing?


Git-R-Done




OK, then how is their anti-dove hunting contradictory to thier overall
mission? They think, and have always thought, hunting for food is not a
good thing.

Scott



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Old August 23rd, 2004, 07:20 PM
Scott Seidman
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Default report on PETA -- PETA contradiction

"Jeff Durham" wrote in
:

From PETA's warped perspective, it's okay to kill unborn babies, but
not to kill doves (or fish) for food or sport. If you don't see the
contradiction, then you and I operate on a completely different value
system.



Actually, PETA itself has no policy on abortion. PETA members are free
to decide upon that issue as they see fit. Similarly, they have no
policy on drivers licenses for immigrants, athlete doping (unless the
doping agents are animal-tested, I suppose), child labor, stadium seating
at concerts, and a host of other things. Do the Right to Life folks have
a policy on animal domestication? Perhaps the PETA folks feel that every
animal that can express the desire to terminate a pregnancy should be
entitled to a free abortion.

If you need to attack PETA on hypocracy, attack their use of animal-
tested medicine when they get sick, and for every other positive aspect
of responsible animal use that they take advantage of.

Better yet, criticize them on their current stances, like support of the
Animal Liberation Front (maybe we can shut down PETA under some of the
new anti terrorism campaigns, or freeze their bank accounts, if we can
demonstrate a clear financial link to the ALF). Criticize their
promotion of vegetarianism as unhealthy to developing children.
Criticize their animal research policies for threatening development in
medical treatment. Criticize their actions for removing just about every
animal lab from medical education (yeah, most procedures done by doctors
in training are performed for the first time on humans, these days--
when you get sutured in an ER by a young resident, that might be the
first time he or she is suturing in living tissue!). Tell them about how
hunting bans cause unstable ecosystems. Tell them about the million
pounds of venison that went to feeding the hungry in NY last year.

There are perfectly valid criticisms on their real stances-- we don't
have to find new ones, particularly about positions they don't endorse.

Scott
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Old August 24th, 2004, 06:12 AM
Marty
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"Jeff Durham" wrote in message
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From PETA's warped perspective, it's okay to kill unborn babies, but not

to
kill doves (or fish) for food or sport. If you don't see the

contradiction,
then you and I operate on a completely different value system.


Many pro-lifers who preach about the sanctity of life are enthusiastic
supporters of capital punishment and war. Is that contradictory?


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Old August 24th, 2004, 01:04 PM
Scott Seidman
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Default report on PETA -- PETA contradiction

"Marty" wrote in news:k7AWc.2191$Lw3.1985
@news01.roc.ny:


"Jeff Durham" wrote in message
...
From PETA's warped perspective, it's okay to kill unborn babies, but not

to
kill doves (or fish) for food or sport. If you don't see the

contradiction,
then you and I operate on a completely different value system.


Many pro-lifers who preach about the sanctity of life are enthusiastic
supporters of capital punishment and war. Is that contradictory?




No more contradictory than suppressing education about birth control.

Scott
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Old August 24th, 2004, 01:04 PM
Scott Seidman
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Default report on PETA -- PETA contradiction

"Marty" wrote in news:k7AWc.2191$Lw3.1985
@news01.roc.ny:


"Jeff Durham" wrote in message
...
From PETA's warped perspective, it's okay to kill unborn babies, but not

to
kill doves (or fish) for food or sport. If you don't see the

contradiction,
then you and I operate on a completely different value system.


Many pro-lifers who preach about the sanctity of life are enthusiastic
supporters of capital punishment and war. Is that contradictory?




No more contradictory than suppressing education about birth control.

Scott
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Old August 23rd, 2004, 07:20 PM
Scott Seidman
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Default report on PETA -- PETA contradiction

"Jeff Durham" wrote in
:

From PETA's warped perspective, it's okay to kill unborn babies, but
not to kill doves (or fish) for food or sport. If you don't see the
contradiction, then you and I operate on a completely different value
system.



Actually, PETA itself has no policy on abortion. PETA members are free
to decide upon that issue as they see fit. Similarly, they have no
policy on drivers licenses for immigrants, athlete doping (unless the
doping agents are animal-tested, I suppose), child labor, stadium seating
at concerts, and a host of other things. Do the Right to Life folks have
a policy on animal domestication? Perhaps the PETA folks feel that every
animal that can express the desire to terminate a pregnancy should be
entitled to a free abortion.

If you need to attack PETA on hypocracy, attack their use of animal-
tested medicine when they get sick, and for every other positive aspect
of responsible animal use that they take advantage of.

Better yet, criticize them on their current stances, like support of the
Animal Liberation Front (maybe we can shut down PETA under some of the
new anti terrorism campaigns, or freeze their bank accounts, if we can
demonstrate a clear financial link to the ALF). Criticize their
promotion of vegetarianism as unhealthy to developing children.
Criticize their animal research policies for threatening development in
medical treatment. Criticize their actions for removing just about every
animal lab from medical education (yeah, most procedures done by doctors
in training are performed for the first time on humans, these days--
when you get sutured in an ER by a young resident, that might be the
first time he or she is suturing in living tissue!). Tell them about how
hunting bans cause unstable ecosystems. Tell them about the million
pounds of venison that went to feeding the hungry in NY last year.

There are perfectly valid criticisms on their real stances-- we don't
have to find new ones, particularly about positions they don't endorse.

Scott
 




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