Playing A Fish Quest. ?

Willi wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
On the other hand, I try to get every fish, no matter how small,
on the reel instead of just pulling them in by hand which would
probably be a little quicker. It just seems like the honorable
thing to do.

More honorable to use a method that in some situations is less efficient
and results in a longer fight?

Strange choice of words. Pretentious, misguided, rigid, elitist, or
.... (not that I think it's a "bad" thing to do) but honorable?

Maybe it does say something about how you view honor?

I try to honor the fish, which would generally mean bonking them
on the head and eating their flesh while thanking the fish spirit
for sustenance. In terms of catch and release, I try to honor the
fish by catching them properly, with respect, and releasing them
them same way. For me, catching them properly means getting them
on the reel.

YMMV.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:



I try to honor the fish, which would generally mean bonking them
on the head and eating their flesh while thanking the fish spirit
for sustenance. In terms of catch and release, I try to honor the
fish by catching them properly, with respect, and releasing them
them same way. For me, catching them properly means getting them
on the reel.

YMMV.



That all sounds very cute.


"properly" another strange word.


I'm not sure how putting the fish on the reel if it results in taking
longer to land it fits in with "honor the fish" and treating them "with
respect." Sounds to me that it's just somehow more satisfying to YOU or
somehow fits in with some image you have of YOURSELF. (Which is fine
with me but calling it "proper" and "honorable" ???????)

Willi

Willi wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I try to honor the fish, which would generally mean bonking them
on the head and eating their flesh while thanking the fish spirit
for sustenance. In terms of catch and release, I try to honor the
fish by catching them properly, with respect, and releasing them
them same way. For me, catching them properly means getting them
on the reel.

YMMV.

That all sounds very cute.

"properly" another strange word.

I'm not sure how putting the fish on the reel if it results in taking
longer to land it fits in with "honor the fish" and treating them "with
respect." Sounds to me that it's just somehow more satisfying to YOU or
somehow fits in with some image you have of YOURSELF. (Which is fine
with me but calling it "proper" and "honorable" ???????)

I like to do things right, and for me getting the fish, no matter
how small, on the reel is right, meet, proper and honorable. I
don't ever have much slack line out of the reel. That's one of the
things you learn as you get better at this fly fishing thing, so
the difference between pulling in the line by hand and taking up
the slack to play the fish "right" is negligible.

Respecting the fish by honoring the sport of fly fishing, or strange
fetish of an elitist snob. Call it whatever you want. That's how I
do things and if you want to disparage my motives, well that's just
roff, isn't it ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
Willi wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I try to honor the fish, which would generally mean bonking them
on the head and eating their flesh while thanking the fish spirit
for sustenance. In terms of catch and release, I try to honor the
fish by catching them properly, with respect, and releasing them
them same way. For me, catching them properly means getting them
on the reel.

YMMV.

That all sounds very cute.

"properly" another strange word.

I'm not sure how putting the fish on the reel if it results in taking
longer to land it fits in with "honor the fish" and treating them "with
respect." Sounds to me that it's just somehow more satisfying to YOU or
somehow fits in with some image you have of YOURSELF. (Which is fine
with me but calling it "proper" and "honorable" ???????)

I like to do things right, and for me getting the fish, no matter
how small, on the reel is right, meet, proper and honorable. I
don't ever have much slack line out of the reel. That's one of the
things you learn as you get better at this fly fishing thing, so
the difference between pulling in the line by hand and taking up
the slack to play the fish "right" is negligible.

Respecting the fish by honoring the sport of fly fishing,

You lost me on that one. . .

or strange
fetish of an elitist snob. Call it whatever you want. That's how I
do things and if you want to disparage my motives, well that's just
roff, isn't it ?

Okay, you got me back. That last sentence alone pegs the irony meter. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj

Tim J. wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
Respecting the fish by honoring the sport of fly fishing,

You lost me on that one. . .

For me fly fishing is a very important part of who I am and
how I make sense of the world around me. Norman Maclean had
it right when he said there is no clear line between religion
and fly fishing. For me, words like honorable, properly and
respect are not "strange" words to associate with fly fishing.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in
message ...
Tim J. wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
Respecting the fish by honoring the sport of fly fishing,

You lost me on that one. . .

For me fly fishing is a very important part of who I am and
how I make sense of the world around me.

Thus demonstrating that you should find a less intellectually
demanding avocation.

Norman Maclean had
it right when he said there is no clear line between religion
and fly fishing.

Exactly......um.....except he never said that.

For me, words like honorable, properly and
respect are not "strange" words to associate with fly fishing.

I don't think anyone here would have any trouble associating words
like honorable, properly or respect with fly fishing. It's you
insistence that they apply somehow to YOU, whether through fly fishing
or anything else, that taints them.

Wolfgang

Wolfgang wrote:
...
I don't think anyone here ...

See, there you go again. Why would you presume to speak
for anyone here other than yourself ? Are you such a
Usenet psychopath that you cannot post your nasty insults
here without the support of a circle jerk ?

Here's news for you Wolfie, even though you have a large
audience, you're masturbating all by your little lonesome.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Wolfgang wrote:
...
I don't think anyone here ...

See, there you go again. Why would you presume to speak
for anyone here other than yourself ? Are you such a
Usenet psychopath that you cannot post your nasty insults
here without the support of a circle jerk ?

Here's news for you Wolfie, even though you have a large
audience, you're masturbating all by your little lonesome.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Tim J. wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...

Respecting the fish by honoring the sport of fly fishing,


You lost me on that one. . .


For me fly fishing is a very important part of who I am and
how I make sense of the world around me. Norman Maclean had
it right when he said there is no clear line between religion
and fly fishing. For me, words like honorable, properly and
respect are not "strange" words to associate with fly fishing.

I loathe this style of quasi-mystical navel-gazing elitist bull****.
This is from someone who claims that the essence of flyfishing is
casting -- with a T&T rod, of course. :-) Flyfishing is a blood sport.
It can be done well (which requires years of practice, aside from a few
rare naturals), it can be done poorly, or, as is the case with most of
us, it can be done with hopeful and striving mediocrity. It has
absolutely nothing in common with religion.

Ken has a right to his point of view, and I have a right to say it's a
pile of self righteous crap.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Tim J. wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
Respecting the fish by honoring the sport of fly fishing,

You lost me on that one. . .

For me fly fishing is a very important part of who I am and
how I make sense of the world around me. Norman Maclean had
it right when he said there is no clear line between religion
and fly fishing. For me, words like honorable, properly and
respect are not "strange" words to associate with fly fishing.

I didn't say they were, but I still fail to understand how getting the fish onto
the reel has anything to do with "respecting the fish." Hell, you can honor the
sport any way you want, but I think the fish would feel better respected if you
didn't fish at all.
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj