Easy Geek question

"riverman" wrote in message
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Can anyone recommend a good freeware program for making a constantly-updated
backup of my system? I just got a 200GB external HD, and would like to
install a program that keeps track of any changes I make to my internal HD
and keeps a mirror copy on the external HD, just in case I have another
total system crash like last year. I also want to backup SWMBOs system on
the same external drive, if possible, although hers would be backed up
intermittently (whenever I managed to bring the external HD over to her
office and update).

Thanks, and, uh....TL.

This is what I use for certain key workstations at work:
http://tinyurl.com/5lvya. It first creates a full system backup, then backs up
files to a network drive as they change on the workstation. If the network drive
is unavailable, as it is on some of the notebook PCs that come and go, files are
backed up to a secondary location on the notebook until the network drive is
again available. At that point, the temp location files are copied to the
network drive. Sweet. Also, it can keep up to five revisions of backed up files.
It's not free (well, I got mine *free* when I bought a $1,800 network drive),
but at $50 it's as good a value as they come, IMO.
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj

"riverman" wrote in
:

Can anyone recommend a good freeware program for making a
constantly-updated backup of my system? I just got a 200GB
external HD, and would like to install a program that keeps track
of any changes I make to my internal HD and keeps a mirror copy on
the external HD, just in case I have another total system crash
like last year. I also want to backup SWMBOs system on the same
external drive, if possible, although hers would be backed up
intermittently (whenever I managed to bring the external HD over
to her office and update).

Thanks, and, uh....TL.

--riverman




Myron,

Suggest you take a look at the latest Norton Ghost. Has everything
you are looking for and then some. Nice piece of software.

For SO's data, you can simply share the new drive over your network
and copy the data using Ghost (another copy of course ).

Another way in the event of not having a network, or if the network
is too slow, is to buy something like this:

http://www.dealsonic.com/stpmidetousb.html

You mount your 200gig drive in it and then connect through USB 2. It
is an extremely fast, portable and flexible solution for backup. I
use this approach for moving large digital video files around ( 40
gig).

Gary

PS I use the backup that came with Windows and it's fine for my
needs.

"GaryM" wrote in message
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"riverman" wrote in
:

Can anyone recommend a good freeware program for making a
constantly-updated backup of my system? I just got a 200GB
external HD, and would like to install a program that keeps track
of any changes I make to my internal HD and keeps a mirror copy on
the external HD, just in case I have another total system crash
like last year. I also want to backup SWMBOs system on the same
external drive, if possible, although hers would be backed up
intermittently (whenever I managed to bring the external HD over
to her office and update).

Thanks, and, uh....TL.

--riverman




Myron,

Suggest you take a look at the latest Norton Ghost. Has everything
you are looking for and then some. Nice piece of software.

For SO's data, you can simply share the new drive over your network
and copy the data using Ghost (another copy of course ).

Another way in the event of not having a network, or if the network
is too slow, is to buy something like this:

http://www.dealsonic.com/stpmidetousb.html

You mount your 200gig drive in it and then connect through USB 2. It
is an extremely fast, portable and flexible solution for backup. I
use this approach for moving large digital video files around ( 40
gig).

Gary

PS I use the backup that came with Windows and it's fine for my
needs.

Gary: I already have a very similar item, that connects via my firewire (my
two USBs are precious commodities!) Its stackable, and can be connected via
USB2 or Firewire. http://tinyurl.com/3wjxe

Does Ghost 2003 have a similar 'synchronization' feature, or does it just
copy the entire drive each time? I wish Norton offered an upgrade to the new
Ghost, but they don't.

What's the backup feature in Windoze? Will that synchonize changes?

--riverman

"GaryM" wrote in message
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"riverman" wrote in
:

Can anyone recommend a good freeware program for making a
constantly-updated backup of my system? I just got a 200GB
external HD, and would like to install a program that keeps track
of any changes I make to my internal HD and keeps a mirror copy on
the external HD, just in case I have another total system crash
like last year. I also want to backup SWMBOs system on the same
external drive, if possible, although hers would be backed up
intermittently (whenever I managed to bring the external HD over
to her office and update).

Thanks, and, uh....TL.

--riverman




Myron,

Suggest you take a look at the latest Norton Ghost. Has everything
you are looking for and then some. Nice piece of software.

For SO's data, you can simply share the new drive over your network
and copy the data using Ghost (another copy of course ).

Another way in the event of not having a network, or if the network
is too slow, is to buy something like this:

http://www.dealsonic.com/stpmidetousb.html

You mount your 200gig drive in it and then connect through USB 2. It
is an extremely fast, portable and flexible solution for backup. I
use this approach for moving large digital video files around ( 40
gig).

Gary

PS I use the backup that came with Windows and it's fine for my
needs.

Gary: I already have a very similar item, that connects via my firewire (my
two USBs are precious commodities!) Its stackable, and can be connected via
USB2 or Firewire. http://tinyurl.com/3wjxe

Does Ghost 2003 have a similar 'synchronization' feature, or does it just
copy the entire drive each time? I wish Norton offered an upgrade to the new
Ghost, but they don't.

What's the backup feature in Windoze? Will that synchonize changes?

--riverman

riverman wrote; "What's the backup feature in Windoze? Will that synchonize
changes?"

If you are running Windows XP there is a restore feature that will allow you
to return your computer to a day when you know it was running stable. It
will not lose any files that you may have saved after the restore date it
only resets the operating system. If you were hit by a virus then the
restore file will also contain the virus so you need to restore before the
date you think you picked up the virus.

I don't use any software to back up my files. I just use the restore point
in Windows XP. I built my computer so I installed three hard drives. One
is 40 gigs and the only thing on it is the operating system and any software
that won't install to a different drive. Second drive is a 100 gig and this
is where I save all my data files. This way if I lose the operating system
I still have access to my data files. The last hard drive I threw in there
because I refurbished a computer for my kids and it was in their computer as
a second hard drive and it was not being used. It is a 100 gig hard drive.
I routinely go to my second hard drive and make a second exact copy to the
third drive just incase one fails I don't lose my files.

As I stated in my original post. There are lots of companies that make
software to do what you want. I gave Norton Ghost as an example. Everyone
has their preference how they want to do this and what software. I just
prefer to use what Windows XP gave me.


Sarge

Tim J. wrote:
This is what I use for certain key workstations at work:
http://tinyurl.com/5lvya.

FWIW, Norton has abandoned DataKeeper. I used to use that regularly but (as
with all of the PowerQuest/PartitionMagic titles) every time a new disk
drive capacity barrier was reached, the product failed. I went through
several upgrade cycles just to get their products to work with my
newer/bigger drives over the years and then I got sick of that.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps

"Stan Gula" wrote in message
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Tim J. wrote:
This is what I use for certain key workstations at work:
http://tinyurl.com/5lvya.

FWIW, Norton has abandoned DataKeeper. I used to use that regularly but (as
with all of the PowerQuest/PartitionMagic titles) every time a new disk
drive capacity barrier was reached, the product failed. I went through
several upgrade cycles just to get their products to work with my
newer/bigger drives over the years and then I got sick of that.

Gee, a forced update in a Windows world - I've never heard of such heresy! ;-)

From what I can see, you're right (the bastids). Too bad - that was/is a nice
product. Snap!Appliance is still providing DataKeeper as part of buying one of
their units, so they must have a deal with Symantec.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

Gary wrote: "If I were building a machine and putting 3 harddrives in it,
I'd go the extra mile and install RAID. That way all drives store info on
the other and if one goes, you just swap it out with barely a hiccup. The
new drive immediately rebuilds itself to get you to 'safety' again within a
short time after installation."

I thought about using the raid but I did not since I was given the chip for
free from AMD and the motherboard was given to me by a friend that did not
like it. My total cost in building the chip was basically under 200.00
dollars since I already had or was given parts from friends. If I would
have gone with raid, I would have had to buy a new motherboard and possibly
a new chip. I put this computer together mostly from parts I already owned.
I went this route do to my money I had available to work on this project. I
did upgrade at the time from a 333 to a 2.0 g speed computer.

I am in the of process of looking to build a new computer and giving this
one to my mother. If I do build one I will go with raid since I do not have
any spare parts at the time and my friends are not upgrading at the time.

I only use restore to restore Windows and not to backup my files. I feel
comfortable with storing my data on one drive and my operating system on
another. I only backup my data but by copying the entire drive from one to
another. I have had a few crashes that I decided to just reformat my
operating system hard drive and start over. I have never lost any data they
way I do it. I have looked at adding a I/o card that would allow set up a
raid system but decided I have enough stuff in my computer. I also have a
200 g external hard drive that is connected by firewire that I store photos
on. I use this drive mainly with my digital camera when I go on trips. It
allows me to download pictures without a laptop. This was a freebie so I
use it. I really wanted a laptop but my mother bought me this for Christmas
last year.

Sarge

riverman wrote:



Can anyone recommend a good freeware program for making a
constantly-updated backup of my system? I just got a 200GB
external HD, and would like to install a program that keeps track
of any changes I make to my internal HD and keeps a mirror copy on
the external HD, just in case I have another total system crash
like last year. I also want to backup SWMBOs system on the same
external drive, if possible, although hers would be backed up
intermittently (whenever I managed to bring the external HD over
to her office and update).

Thanks, and, uh....TL.

--riverman


I use FileSync to do daily backups of all my data. It is "freeware" or
you can register cheaply. I do not use it to mirror my entire hard
drive, simply to back up all of my work. For me it has worked
brilliantly and it may do what you want.

Vaughan

http://www.fileware.com/products.htm#FileSync

"riverman" wrote in
:

Can anyone recommend a good freeware program for making a
constantly-updated backup of my system? I just got a 200GB external
HD, and would like to install a program that keeps track of any
changes I make to my internal HD and keeps a mirror copy on the
external HD, just in case I have another total system crash like last
year. I also want to backup SWMBOs system on the same external drive,
if possible, although hers would be backed up intermittently (whenever
I managed to bring the external HD over to her office and update).

Thanks, and, uh....TL.

--riverman



Some of the new external disk drives come with a small version of
Retrospect that works reasonably well. As you already have a disk without
it, I don't know how valuable the info will be.

BTW, Retrospect backs up periodically, not continuously

Scott