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Old September 20th, 2004, 08:21 PM
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Wolfgang wrote:

hey myron......you suppose he meant to be offensive?


Can't get anything past you.

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Old September 20th, 2004, 08:29 PM
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"rw" wrote in message
m...
Wolfgang wrote:

hey myron......you suppose he meant to be offensive?


Can't get anything past you.


Thus effectively putting a name to one of the distinctions between us.

Know what I mean?

Wolfgang
o.k., let's watch closely and see what he learns.


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Old September 20th, 2004, 08:29 PM
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"rw" wrote in message
m...
Wolfgang wrote:

hey myron......you suppose he meant to be offensive?


Can't get anything past you.


Thus effectively putting a name to one of the distinctions between us.

Know what I mean?

Wolfgang
o.k., let's watch closely and see what he learns.


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Old September 20th, 2004, 08:29 PM
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"rw" wrote in message
m...
Wolfgang wrote:

hey myron......you suppose he meant to be offensive?


Can't get anything past you.


Thus effectively putting a name to one of the distinctions between us.

Know what I mean?

Wolfgang
o.k., let's watch closely and see what he learns.


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Old September 21st, 2004, 12:15 AM
Mike Connor
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"Randy" wrote in message
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SNIP
but do they go bad just sitting on the shelf for a couple of years? I've
heard that you dont want to use old leader or tippet material, I wonder
if the same is true for lines?

TIA,

Randy


Lines deteriorate in time. PVC lines eventually go brittle and crack, even
when not used. This is because the softeners used in the plastic migrate to
the surroundings ( Basically, they evaporate!). This is also heavily
dependent on storage conditions.

I have some very old lines which are still good, and I also have some newer
lines which are basically useless, although unused. There usually is no way
to know why a "cheap" line is cheap, and there is always a risk involved in
buying such lines. The only real way to know if a line is any good is to
use it. How it performs, and how long it lasts, under a variety of
conditions, indicates the good quality, or otherwise.

One is more likely to obtain good quality from relatively expensive "Name"
lines, than from cheapies, regardless of the source.

Sometimes one may save a little money on "bargains" and the like, but one
may just as well end up with junk, and consequently be obliged to replace it
in short order. This may cost more than buying a good line in the first
place.

Unless you are a rank beginner, ( in which case you will probably ruin the
line fairly quickly anyway, and a cheap line is good enough to start
with),or a very experienced and knowledgeable angler, ( who knows exactly
what he is buying and why), then you are probably better advised to buy a
good line from a reputable source.

TL
MC



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Old September 21st, 2004, 12:15 AM
Mike Connor
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"Randy" wrote in message
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SNIP
but do they go bad just sitting on the shelf for a couple of years? I've
heard that you dont want to use old leader or tippet material, I wonder
if the same is true for lines?

TIA,

Randy


Lines deteriorate in time. PVC lines eventually go brittle and crack, even
when not used. This is because the softeners used in the plastic migrate to
the surroundings ( Basically, they evaporate!). This is also heavily
dependent on storage conditions.

I have some very old lines which are still good, and I also have some newer
lines which are basically useless, although unused. There usually is no way
to know why a "cheap" line is cheap, and there is always a risk involved in
buying such lines. The only real way to know if a line is any good is to
use it. How it performs, and how long it lasts, under a variety of
conditions, indicates the good quality, or otherwise.

One is more likely to obtain good quality from relatively expensive "Name"
lines, than from cheapies, regardless of the source.

Sometimes one may save a little money on "bargains" and the like, but one
may just as well end up with junk, and consequently be obliged to replace it
in short order. This may cost more than buying a good line in the first
place.

Unless you are a rank beginner, ( in which case you will probably ruin the
line fairly quickly anyway, and a cheap line is good enough to start
with),or a very experienced and knowledgeable angler, ( who knows exactly
what he is buying and why), then you are probably better advised to buy a
good line from a reputable source.

TL
MC



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Old September 21st, 2004, 12:15 AM
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Default Can fly lines go "bad" on the shelf?


"Randy" wrote in message
...
SNIP
but do they go bad just sitting on the shelf for a couple of years? I've
heard that you dont want to use old leader or tippet material, I wonder
if the same is true for lines?

TIA,

Randy


Lines deteriorate in time. PVC lines eventually go brittle and crack, even
when not used. This is because the softeners used in the plastic migrate to
the surroundings ( Basically, they evaporate!). This is also heavily
dependent on storage conditions.

I have some very old lines which are still good, and I also have some newer
lines which are basically useless, although unused. There usually is no way
to know why a "cheap" line is cheap, and there is always a risk involved in
buying such lines. The only real way to know if a line is any good is to
use it. How it performs, and how long it lasts, under a variety of
conditions, indicates the good quality, or otherwise.

One is more likely to obtain good quality from relatively expensive "Name"
lines, than from cheapies, regardless of the source.

Sometimes one may save a little money on "bargains" and the like, but one
may just as well end up with junk, and consequently be obliged to replace it
in short order. This may cost more than buying a good line in the first
place.

Unless you are a rank beginner, ( in which case you will probably ruin the
line fairly quickly anyway, and a cheap line is good enough to start
with),or a very experienced and knowledgeable angler, ( who knows exactly
what he is buying and why), then you are probably better advised to buy a
good line from a reputable source.

TL
MC



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Old September 21st, 2004, 10:57 AM
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"rw" wrote in message
m...
Wolfgang wrote:

hey myron......you suppose he meant to be offensive?


Can't get anything past you.


Thus effectively putting a name to one of the distinctions between us.

Know what I mean?

Wolfgang
o.k., let's watch closely and see what he learns.



So this is the adult version of "I'm rubber, you're glue?"

--riverman


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Old September 21st, 2004, 10:57 AM
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"rw" wrote in message
m...
Wolfgang wrote:

hey myron......you suppose he meant to be offensive?


Can't get anything past you.


Thus effectively putting a name to one of the distinctions between us.

Know what I mean?

Wolfgang
o.k., let's watch closely and see what he learns.



So this is the adult version of "I'm rubber, you're glue?"

--riverman


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Old September 21st, 2004, 12:21 PM
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"riverman" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"rw" wrote in message
m...
Wolfgang wrote:

hey myron......you suppose he meant to be offensive?

Can't get anything past you.


Thus effectively putting a name to one of the distinctions between us.

Know what I mean?

Wolfgang
o.k., let's watch closely and see what he learns.



So this is the adult version of "I'm rubber, you're glue?"


Sure, you can call it that, if you like. But doing so doesn't really help
us with the question of by what name we shall know a deliberate attempt to
be offensive and, more particularly, such an attempt, for no apparent
reason, in what had previously been a perfectly civil discourse. I'd
appreciate any insight you may have to offer......teacher.

Wolfgang


 




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