The fly of last resort: A sort of TR

In article , says...
In article , Kevin Vang
wrote:

HI Kevin
Not trying to be decietful as I was pretty
sure anyone who knows the spot would recognize it . Are you from MT
or just come out to fish sometimes?
I tried to contact you off line but it bounced.

I live in North Dakota, but I try to make at least one trip out
West every summer for a trout fix. My new email addy is:
kevin dot vang at minotstateu dot edu


You re right about the cray fish on the MO. There s tons of them
have to avoid stepping on them sometimes. To be honest never thought
to imitate them. Is this what a WB does? I thought it was a minnow
imitation. MT

Hey, it's a minnow, it's a crayfish, it's a dragonfly/stonefly/
damselfly nymph, it slices, it dices, it waxes your car...

Kevin

Kevin Vang wrote:

Hey, it's a minnow, it's a crayfish, it's a dragonfly/stonefly/
damselfly nymph, it slices, it dices, it waxes your car...

And it's really, really easy to tie. I like them in dark colors, mainly
black and purple, with a "lateral line" of two strands of krystal flash.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

"rw" wrote in message
m...
Kevin Vang wrote:
Hey, it's a minnow, it's a crayfish, it's a dragonfly/stonefly/
damselfly nymph, it slices, it dices, it waxes your car...

And it's really, really easy to tie. I like them in dark colors, mainly
black and purple, with a "lateral line" of two strands of krystal flash.



Me, too, but I have also tried making the body two different colors under
the Palmering, to imitate the lighter underbelly of a fish. Sometimes, I
toss in a hint of red beard for gills.

Getting a lighter colored underside, two krystalflash lateral lines, and a
red gill/beard is much more of a logistical challenge than it seems. g

--riverman

"riverman" wrote in
:

Getting a lighter colored underside, two krystalflash lateral lines,
and a red gill/beard is much more of a logistical challenge than it
seems. g


Light coloured chenille and a dark waterproof marking pen is probably the
simplest way.


Steve

"rw" wrote in message
m...
Kevin Vang wrote:
Hey, it's a minnow, it's a crayfish, it's a dragonfly/stonefly/
damselfly nymph, it slices, it dices, it waxes your car...

And it's really, really easy to tie. I like them in dark colors, mainly
black and purple, with a "lateral line" of two strands of krystal flash.



Me, too, but I have also tried making the body two different colors under
the Palmering, to imitate the lighter underbelly of a fish. Sometimes, I
toss in a hint of red beard for gills.

Getting a lighter colored underside, two krystalflash lateral lines, and a
red gill/beard is much more of a logistical challenge than it seems. g

--riverman

Hey, it's a minnow, it's a crayfish, it's a dragonfly/stonefly/
damselfly nymph, it slices, it dices, it waxes your car...

Kevin

The great thing about them besides being easy to tie is that they work
in almost evry type of water we fish. In Colorado I caught lots of
fish on them from my belly boat in lakes either dead drihting them or
slowing paddling and slow trolling them. If neither of these methods
worked I made a cast then let them sink and striped and twitched them
back. I fished them in streams like mentioned above. All colors work
but my best experiences were with black, purpler,rust,and dark brown.

Art

In article ,
says...


The great thing about them besides being easy to tie is that they work
in almost evry type of water we fish. In Colorado I caught lots of
fish on them from my belly boat in lakes either dead drihting them or
slowing paddling and slow trolling them. If neither of these methods
worked I made a cast then let them sink and striped and twitched them
back. I fished them in streams like mentioned above. All colors work
but my best experiences were with black, purpler,rust,and dark brown.


I tie great big ones for pike fishing. They get the odd bass and
walleye too. My best colors in warmwater are purple and yellow.
I imagine the purple buggers pass for leeches, and the the yellow
ones,... well, I dunno, fish just seem to like yellow. Maybe they
are Vikings fans.

Kevin

Kevin Vang wrote:

I tie great big ones for pike fishing. They get the odd bass and
walleye too.

Besides bass, I've caught channel cats on WB in my home river.

My best colors in warmwater are purple and yellow.
I imagine the purple buggers pass for leeches, and the the yellow
ones,... well, I dunno, fish just seem to like yellow. Maybe they
are Vikings fans.

Brown seems to work best down here (with black and olive next). I'm
guessing that the brown ones are imitative of crawfish. The olive ones
probably pass for dragonfly or damselfly nymphs.


Chuck Vance

"Conan the Librarian" wrote in message
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Kevin Vang wrote:

I tie great big ones for pike fishing. They get the odd bass and
walleye too.

Besides bass, I've caught channel cats on WB in my home river.

My best colors in warmwater are purple and yellow.
I imagine the purple buggers pass for leeches, and the the yellow
ones,... well, I dunno, fish just seem to like yellow. Maybe they
are Vikings fans.

Brown seems to work best down here (with black and olive next). I'm
guessing that the brown ones are imitative of crawfish. The olive ones
probably pass for dragonfly or damselfly nymphs.


Can fish see color? Do they have cones in their eyes? And what color does
olive appear at 3-4 meters depth?

--riverman
(yeah, I know I could just look it up. But this is so much easier.....)

riverman wrote:

"Conan the Librarian" wrote in message
...

Brown seems to work best down here (with black and olive next). I'm
guessing that the brown ones are imitative of crawfish. The olive ones
probably pass for dragonfly or damselfly nymphs.



Can fish see color? Do they have cones in their eyes? And what color does
olive appear at 3-4 meters depth?

Here's an interesting little article by Gary Borger (who developed
the Borger Color System that is so popular among some hatch-matchers)
that says they do see color:
http://www.finefishing.com/1flyfish/...on%20trout.htm


Chuck Vance