Steelhead flies

You have a pretty good selection. I would scratch the Ponois and get the
rest of the Randall Kauffman flies. You have three of them, Coal Car,
Signal light and Freight train. There are a few more. Two very good flies
that you don't have are Purple Peril and Fly de Jour. you should have a lot
of black flies, and purple fles, both with white and black wings.
Re size, I would go primarily with 4's, except if the water is very low.
Then you should have some 6's or low water 4's (much more lightly dressed).
Most peole beleive that the color of the fly is not important. Other people
say any color as long as it is black or purple.



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"Warren" wrote in message
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I am going steelhead fishing for the first time and was wondering if any
of you could suggest flies. So far I have been looking at several of
the "standards," but there is a lot of flies that I am unaware of and
don't know what sizes I need to tie. I spoke with "someone in the
know" at the local shop and they told me to #6s because sizes change
during the year or some such crap. I don't know **** and so wasn't
ready to argue......

Flies I am thinking of tying a

Green Butt Black Bears
Black Doses
Blue Charms
Coal Cars
Freight Trains
Highlanders
Krystal Eggs
Ponoi Greens and Reds
Signal Lights
Undertakers

Is that a decent selection or are more needed? Do I need more sizes
other than #6s? Having just one size sounds funky to me...... Anybody
have any suggestions on other cool flies I should consider?
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lid wrote...
You have a pretty good selection. I would scratch the Ponois and get the
rest of the Randall Kauffman flies. You have three of them, Coal Car,
Signal light and Freight train. There are a few more. Two very good flies
that you don't have are Purple Peril and Fly de Jour. you should have a lot
of black flies, and purple fles, both with white and black wings.
Re size, I would go primarily with 4's, except if the water is very low.
Then you should have some 6's or low water 4's (much more lightly dressed).
Most peole beleive that the color of the fly is not important. Other people
say any color as long as it is black or purple.

Thanks for the info!

Between packing for the trip, unpacking from a recent move and work I
haven't had nearly as much time as I had anticipated to tie flies.
Figure in the amount of time that I have spent trying to "research" 50
lifetimes worth of info on something that is still not understood and
you can basically understand why I feel like a three peckered buck
rabbit during the peak of breeding season. I do have the Undertakers
and Signal Lights done though. :-) I have the materials on hand to tie
Purple Perils, but I don't have a recipe for "Fly de Jour." Do you have
any info? I also received an email that said Green Butt Skunks have
taken more steelhead than any other fly and to make sure that I had some
of those. Any comments?

If anybody has links to cool web sites that have pics and recipes for
steelhead flies, I could really use those too. This is my first trip,
but I plan on making another within a few months. I have soooooo much
to learn....... :-(
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I'll look for a pattern but you can see it in this selection of flies. What
makes it different, is that it is a "lantern" fly; that is it has a very
bright butt. You first put on silver mylar which is very reflective, then
cover it with pink Edge Bright, or anything else that is highly reflective.
Finish the rest of the body with purple chenile, wrap a silver rib, add a
purple beard, and a white wing. this has been a killer fly on the Deshutes.
Edge bright comes in hot reds, hot pinks, ornage, greens etc. You can use
the silver tensil base and edge bright to make any fly a "lantern" fly

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"Warren" wrote in message
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lid wrote...
You have a pretty good selection. I would scratch the Ponois and get
the
rest of the Randall Kauffman flies. You have three of them, Coal
Car,
Signal light and Freight train. There are a few more. Two very good
flies
that you don't have are Purple Peril and Fly de Jour. you should have a
lot
of black flies, and purple fles, both with white and black wings.
Re size, I would go primarily with 4's, except if the water is very low.
Then you should have some 6's or low water 4's (much more lightly
dressed).
Most peole beleive that the color of the fly is not important. Other
people
say any color as long as it is black or purple.

Thanks for the info!

Between packing for the trip, unpacking from a recent move and work I
haven't had nearly as much time as I had anticipated to tie flies.
Figure in the amount of time that I have spent trying to "research" 50
lifetimes worth of info on something that is still not understood and
you can basically understand why I feel like a three peckered buck
rabbit during the peak of breeding season. I do have the Undertakers
and Signal Lights done though. :-) I have the materials on hand to tie
Purple Perils, but I don't have a recipe for "Fly de Jour." Do you have
any info? I also received an email that said Green Butt Skunks have
taken more steelhead than any other fly and to make sure that I had some
of those. Any comments?

If anybody has links to cool web sites that have pics and recipes for
steelhead flies, I could really use those too. This is my first trip,
but I plan on making another within a few months. I have soooooo much
to learn....... :-(
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Here is apicture of the Fly de Jour.

http://www.flyfishusa.com/flies/stl-...tern-butt.html

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"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
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I'll look for a pattern but you can see it in this selection of flies.
What
makes it different, is that it is a "lantern" fly; that is it has a very
bright butt. You first put on silver mylar which is very reflective, then
cover it with pink Edge Bright, or anything else that is highly
reflective.
Finish the rest of the body with purple chenile, wrap a silver rib, add a
purple beard, and a white wing. this has been a killer fly on the
Deshutes.
Edge bright comes in hot reds, hot pinks, ornage, greens etc. You can
use
the silver tensil base and edge bright to make any fly a "lantern" fly

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"Warren" wrote in message
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lid wrote...
You have a pretty good selection. I would scratch the Ponois and get
the
rest of the Randall Kauffman flies. You have three of them, Coal
Car,
Signal light and Freight train. There are a few more. Two very good
flies
that you don't have are Purple Peril and Fly de Jour. you should have
a
lot
of black flies, and purple fles, both with white and black wings.
Re size, I would go primarily with 4's, except if the water is very
low.
Then you should have some 6's or low water 4's (much more lightly
dressed).
Most peole beleive that the color of the fly is not important. Other
people
say any color as long as it is black or purple.

Thanks for the info!

Between packing for the trip, unpacking from a recent move and work I
haven't had nearly as much time as I had anticipated to tie flies.
Figure in the amount of time that I have spent trying to "research" 50
lifetimes worth of info on something that is still not understood and
you can basically understand why I feel like a three peckered buck
rabbit during the peak of breeding season. I do have the Undertakers
and Signal Lights done though. :-) I have the materials on hand to tie
Purple Perils, but I don't have a recipe for "Fly de Jour." Do you have
any info? I also received an email that said Green Butt Skunks have
taken more steelhead than any other fly and to make sure that I had some
of those. Any comments?

If anybody has links to cool web sites that have pics and recipes for
steelhead flies, I could really use those too. This is my first trip,
but I plan on making another within a few months. I have soooooo much
to learn....... :-(
--
Warren
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Try this site:

www.angelfire.com/wa/salmonid/

Has many patterns and instructions. Great site.

lid wrote...
You have a pretty good selection. I would scratch the Ponois and get the
rest of the Randall Kauffman flies. You have three of them, Coal Car,
Signal light and Freight train. There are a few more. Two very good flies
that you don't have are Purple Peril and Fly de Jour. you should have a lot
of black flies, and purple fles, both with white and black wings.
Re size, I would go primarily with 4's, except if the water is very low.
Then you should have some 6's or low water 4's (much more lightly dressed).
Most peole beleive that the color of the fly is not important. Other people
say any color as long as it is black or purple.

Thanks for the info!

Between packing for the trip, unpacking from a recent move and work I
haven't had nearly as much time as I had anticipated to tie flies.
Figure in the amount of time that I have spent trying to "research" 50
lifetimes worth of info on something that is still not understood and
you can basically understand why I feel like a three peckered buck
rabbit during the peak of breeding season. I do have the Undertakers
and Signal Lights done though. :-) I have the materials on hand to tie
Purple Perils, but I don't have a recipe for "Fly de Jour." Do you have
any info? I also received an email that said Green Butt Skunks have
taken more steelhead than any other fly and to make sure that I had some
of those. Any comments?

If anybody has links to cool web sites that have pics and recipes for
steelhead flies, I could really use those too. This is my first trip,
but I plan on making another within a few months. I have soooooo much
to learn....... :-(
--
Warren
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