Kistler Rods - What is the REAL shakedown?

Ok, I'm hearing quite a bit about these rods, declaring they are THE BEST
rod. I have not even heard of this company or it rods before two months
ago. Now it all I hear about. How their Helium LTA rods are better than
G.Loomis's IMX because they have the same sensitivity, yet are lighter
because they have eliminated the cork in front of the reel seat (which is
the reason they are as sensitive as a IMX).

I know their top of the line Helium LTA rods cost $219-$249. I also know
that the founder (Trey Kistler) is the son of the gentleman who owned
Castaway rods. Other than that, I know nothing about the company or its
products.

So who owns both Kistler and G.Loomis that can shed some light on the
subject.

--
Craig Baugher

Never heard of them Craig, but I went to their site and WOW... they're kinda
expensive aren't they?

From the site:
"The new Helium rods are made with a private material new to fishing rods
which are exceptionally lighter than any comparable graphite rods on the
market today."

Guess we need to figure out what this private material is...

--
Charles B. Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com


"Craig" wrote in message
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Ok, I'm hearing quite a bit about these rods, declaring they are THE BEST
rod. I have not even heard of this company or it rods before two months
ago. Now it all I hear about. How their Helium LTA rods are better than
G.Loomis's IMX because they have the same sensitivity, yet are lighter
because they have eliminated the cork in front of the reel seat (which is
the reason they are as sensitive as a IMX).

I know their top of the line Helium LTA rods cost $219-$249. I also know
that the founder (Trey Kistler) is the son of the gentleman who owned
Castaway rods. Other than that, I know nothing about the company or its
products.

So who owns both Kistler and G.Loomis that can shed some light on the
subject.

--
Craig Baugher

Is there a kistler website? I seen a fishing something site that seems to
sell them, but I haven't seen a kistler site.

--
Craig Baugher

Try www.fishingworld.com..Many guys on Bass Fishing Home Page talk about
Kistler rods. they are tired of the crooked Loomis blanks and poor
workmanship...just what I read....





"If you go to bed stupid, you will wake up stupid"

Kistler is a great company to work with. It is owned by Trey Kistler
and you can call him up any time and talk to him. He will help you
pick out the right rod for any situation. I own four or five of the
standard rods, not the heliums. I like all of them. I believe they
are on a par with Loomis or anyone else. The other thing about Trey
is he is a Christian and makes a point that his company is a Christian
run company. That may not matter to some people but it was important
to me. I'm happy that someone has the courage to stand up for their
faith even if it means a loss of some sales.

Charles wrote: "but I went to their site and WOW... they're kinda
expensive aren't they?"

No, most of their rods are less than $100. But my focus would be on their
Helium Series, which are priced competitively. I'd pay up to $1,000 for a
combo, difference is, I may only have 1 really great combo vs 2 or 3 good
ones.


--
Craig Baugher

A $1000 for a combo, get real.You just maxed out my BS meter...





"If you go to bed stupid, you will wake up stupid"

Probably seen this site: http://www.fishingworld.com/KistlerRods/

That's what came up under a search, but I can't tell if it's their site or
just a sales site.


"Craig" wrote in message
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Is there a kistler website? I seen a fishing something site that seems to
sell them, but I haven't seen a kistler site.

--
Craig Baugher

You can read more about them here
http://www.tackletour.com/reviewkistlerlta.shtm

The one thing that is different is no cork in front of the real seat. They
just put a winding check there, Next they use titanium guide frames and if
you've ever priced these guides you'll know why is cost so much! Any rod
that claims to be light weight uses these guides and a few other tricks like
no cork in front of the seat or like St. Croix they use Skeleton real seats.

What it comes down to is that the difference in the weight of the blank is
less then an ounce from blank to blank on these high end rods and most
people would never notice that difference.


"Gary Wilber" wrote in message
om...
Kistler is a great company to work with. It is owned by Trey Kistler
and you can call him up any time and talk to him. He will help you
pick out the right rod for any situation. I own four or five of the
standard rods, not the heliums. I like all of them. I believe they
are on a par with Loomis or anyone else. The other thing about Trey
is he is a Christian and makes a point that his company is a Christian
run company. That may not matter to some people but it was important
to me. I'm happy that someone has the courage to stand up for their
faith even if it means a loss of some sales.

Kistler rods have been around for some time now. I just finished reading the
review in question , and sorry to say was not very impressed. First they are
using a standard Fuji reel seat., all that is different is the locking hood.
Its the same that any builder gets with these reelseats.Eliminating the fore
grip will not give you any difference in sensitivity or feel. At Millennium
Rods we use a graphite sleeve and cork hood . The cork does not usually
touch the blank with our hoods so there is no lose in sensitivity or feel.
The use of the titanium frame guides is now rather widespread also It's not
necessarily the material of the frame that will dampen or stiffen a blank .
But rather how "many" guides are used , and their placement on the
rod blank itself. I can and have designed rods using alconite rings with
regular S/S frames that weigh less than
a rod with the titanium frames.

While I am sure that Kistler makes a fine rod, IMHO they
are over priced.

Oh, and Craig if you don't mind dropping a grand on a combo, let's
talk..........hehehe! Course for that kind of change you could get at least
(3) three MCR rods.

Dave Norton

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods
"Roy Randolph" wrote in message
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You can read more about them here
http://www.tackletour.com/reviewkistlerlta.shtm

The one thing that is different is no cork in front of the real seat. They
just put a winding check there, Next they use titanium guide frames and if
you've ever priced these guides you'll know why is cost so much! Any rod
that claims to be light weight uses these guides and a few other tricks
like
no cork in front of the seat or like St. Croix they use Skeleton real
seats.

What it comes down to is that the difference in the weight of the blank is
less then an ounce from blank to blank on these high end rods and most
people would never notice that difference.


"Gary Wilber" wrote in message
om...
Kistler is a great company to work with. It is owned by Trey Kistler
and you can call him up any time and talk to him. He will help you
pick out the right rod for any situation. I own four or five of the
standard rods, not the heliums. I like all of them. I believe they
are on a par with Loomis or anyone else. The other thing about Trey
is he is a Christian and makes a point that his company is a Christian
run company. That may not matter to some people but it was important
to me. I'm happy that someone has the courage to stand up for their
faith even if it means a loss of some sales.