Kistler Rods - What is the REAL shakedown?

A $1000 for a combo, get real.You just maxed out my BS meter...





"If you go to bed stupid, you will wake up stupid"

I don't spend that much, more like $335 to $540. What I was trying to
convey was I could be convinced to spend up to a $1,000 if an all mighty rod
was to be born.

I am quite happy with my IMX, and GL3 rods. I did own GLXs too, before they
were stolen. I will probably buy at least 2 GLXs by spring. I use both
Shimano Chronarch and Curado reels, preferring the Chronarchs.

But when they release a high quality injection molded blank (which will
eliminate the need to spline a rod, plus other advantages), I will be in
line to be one of the first to own it. That puppy of a rod may just cost
close to $600 to $700 for the rod. But first, I may have to buy one of
these Kistler rods just to check it out.

--
Craig Baugher

Let me know what you think of them! And if you still have a hankerin for a
IMX(Slate) custom made let me know!

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods
"Craig" wrote in message
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I don't spend that much, more like $335 to $540. What I was trying to
convey was I could be convinced to spend up to a $1,000 if an all mighty
rod
was to be born.

I am quite happy with my IMX, and GL3 rods. I did own GLXs too, before
they
were stolen. I will probably buy at least 2 GLXs by spring. I use both
Shimano Chronarch and Curado reels, preferring the Chronarchs.

But when they release a high quality injection molded blank (which will
eliminate the need to spline a rod, plus other advantages), I will be in
line to be one of the first to own it. That puppy of a rod may just cost
close to $600 to $700 for the rod. But first, I may have to buy one of
these Kistler rods just to check it out.

--
Craig Baugher

If you're looking for really super, well-built rods that aren't for
millionaires AJH, check out my newest sponsor's lineup at

http://www.furnacebayrods.com

These guys build an awesome rod at very realistic prices. They even build
their own blanks. I just got a 7'6" flipping stick from them, and although
the polar weather we're having has prohibited me from actually fishing with
it, it's performed darn-well in the old garage. I sit up on the casting
deck & practice pitching with it. It's got a great feel - can't wait to rip
some lips with it!

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/



"AJH" wrote in message
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A $1000 for a combo, get real.You just maxed out my BS meter...





"If you go to bed stupid, you will wake up stupid"

I have talked with John Uhler. I told him about my bias towards G.Loomis
rods and asked him if his compared. He told me he, nor any of his sponsored
anglers will make any comparisons to other brand name rods. Quoting him:
"We are different, and I don't say better because better is a personal
perceived bias, or brand loyalty. All rod lines are different and depending
on what the customer wants, or his perception of what he wants, is what
makes a rod line the best for that individual. We are what we are. A bunch
of engineers with too much time on our hands and you know what happens when
you leave engineers to their imagination. . . We engineer differently and
we build each rod from scratch based on the customer needs. We don't
advertise much and aren't looking for too many dealers. We are customer
direct through word of mouth from our reps and pro-staff members and they
are actually doing the sales. Customers usually find us rather than going
after them."

Fair enough. I like the fact that John doesn't compare his products to any
other. I'm going to try one of his rod's too. For as I told John, I
wouldn't accept a sponsorship if I truly do not believe in the product. I
believe Warren to be the same type of person. So if Warren says he believes
in the product, it must meet all his expectations, and it is truly one of
the best rods he has every used.

--
Craig Baugher

Like I said Craig, I've yet to actually fish with one of John's rods. I
just like what I've seen so far & John is a local guy (one of my favorite
spots on the Upper Chesapeake is Furnace Bay) with an excellent history of
building quality rods (under another name, a whole other story). It's
definately a class move for Uhler to take the stance he did when you asked
him about making comparisons. Could you imagine if every lure maker got
worked up when they saw others talking about a competitor's bait? Good
products advertise themselves through word of mouth. You'll never see Uhler
on here pushing his goods, just those that use them. Best form of
advertising there is.

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/



"BassAngler" wrote in message
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I have talked with John Uhler. I told him about my bias towards G.Loomis
rods and asked him if his compared. He told me he, nor any of his
sponsored
anglers will make any comparisons to other brand name rods. Quoting him:
"We are different, and I don't say better because better is a personal
perceived bias, or brand loyalty. All rod lines are different and
depending
on what the customer wants, or his perception of what he wants, is what
makes a rod line the best for that individual. We are what we are. A
bunch
of engineers with too much time on our hands and you know what happens
when
you leave engineers to their imagination. . . We engineer differently and
we build each rod from scratch based on the customer needs. We don't
advertise much and aren't looking for too many dealers. We are customer
direct through word of mouth from our reps and pro-staff members and they
are actually doing the sales. Customers usually find us rather than going
after them."

Fair enough. I like the fact that John doesn't compare his products to
any
other. I'm going to try one of his rod's too. For as I told John, I
wouldn't accept a sponsorship if I truly do not believe in the product. I
believe Warren to be the same type of person. So if Warren says he
believes
in the product, it must meet all his expectations, and it is truly one of
the best rods he has every used.

--
Craig Baugher

I don't use hi dollar rods, the most I have paid for a rod is about 90
bucks for a CastAway baitcaster..I am sure the quality of the average
angler's equipment exceeds his fishing ability,Their are a lot of nice
rods out there and some hype too..I think the average angler can do very
well with a off the shelf rod in the $50-80 range.
I would rather fish as good as RichZ.then own $200 rods..





"If you go to bed stupid, you will wake up stupid"

AJH Wrote: " would rather fish as good as RichZ.then own $200 rods.."

I think that is what a high quality rod is all about. I'm telling you I
absolutely, without a question, SUCKED as an angler before I bought my first
G.Loomis. I was being trained by professional anglers, so I was learning a
ton about the sport, where to find fish, how to position the boat, what
lures to use, and how to use them, but the act of actually catching a fish
eluded me. These guys were catching fish one right after another and I was
pulling up weeds. I couldn't tell the difference between snagging a weed
and a fish strike. I was using (if I not mistaken) a Berkley Hank Parker or
a Fenwick Hank Parker rod and a cheap Quantum $29.99 or $39.99 reel, that I
was backlashing every other cast. Once I broke down and bought a GL3
Loomis, it was as if someone turned on the lights in my brain.

Now, I believe you could give me a Mickey Mouse rod and an plastic reel and
I could catch fish. For once you have the experience and knowledge, the
high end rod only gives you a little advantage, but when you are learning,
it is without a question the best thing a new angler could every buy. Save
your money on tapes, books, magazines, that one high quality rod & reel
combo is the secret to learning all the different feels of fishing (weeds,
gravel, rock, wood, sand, limbs, and all the various types of strikes).
Well, that and a lot of "On-the-water" practice.

I use G.Loomis now, just because I am use to the feel of the rod, and I like
that ever so SLIGHT advantage it MAY give me over my competitor. It is a
confidence thing now, plain and simple.

--
Craig Baugher