Kistler Rods - What is the REAL shakedown?

I'm seeing a whole line of rods that range from & 80 to $200, with the
top of the line versions at under $300. How does that make them
overpriced?

Wow. After reading that, I realize I may be in the wrong newsgroup. LoL

Like I said Craig, I've yet to actually fish with one of John's rods. I
just like what I've seen so far & John is a local guy (one of my favorite
spots on the Upper Chesapeake is Furnace Bay) with an excellent history of
building quality rods (under another name, a whole other story). It's
definately a class move for Uhler to take the stance he did when you asked
him about making comparisons. Could you imagine if every lure maker got
worked up when they saw others talking about a competitor's bait? Good
products advertise themselves through word of mouth. You'll never see Uhler
on here pushing his goods, just those that use them. Best form of
advertising there is.

Warren
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http://www.warrenwolk.com/



"BassAngler" wrote in message
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I have talked with John Uhler. I told him about my bias towards G.Loomis
rods and asked him if his compared. He told me he, nor any of his
sponsored
anglers will make any comparisons to other brand name rods. Quoting him:
"We are different, and I don't say better because better is a personal
perceived bias, or brand loyalty. All rod lines are different and
depending
on what the customer wants, or his perception of what he wants, is what
makes a rod line the best for that individual. We are what we are. A
bunch
of engineers with too much time on our hands and you know what happens
when
you leave engineers to their imagination. . . We engineer differently and
we build each rod from scratch based on the customer needs. We don't
advertise much and aren't looking for too many dealers. We are customer
direct through word of mouth from our reps and pro-staff members and they
are actually doing the sales. Customers usually find us rather than going
after them."

Fair enough. I like the fact that John doesn't compare his products to
any
other. I'm going to try one of his rod's too. For as I told John, I
wouldn't accept a sponsorship if I truly do not believe in the product. I
believe Warren to be the same type of person. So if Warren says he
believes
in the product, it must meet all his expectations, and it is truly one of
the best rods he has every used.

--
Craig Baugher

I don't use hi dollar rods, the most I have paid for a rod is about 90
bucks for a CastAway baitcaster..I am sure the quality of the average
angler's equipment exceeds his fishing ability,Their are a lot of nice
rods out there and some hype too..I think the average angler can do very
well with a off the shelf rod in the $50-80 range.
I would rather fish as good as RichZ.then own $200 rods..





"If you go to bed stupid, you will wake up stupid"

AJH Wrote: " would rather fish as good as RichZ.then own $200 rods.."

I think that is what a high quality rod is all about. I'm telling you I
absolutely, without a question, SUCKED as an angler before I bought my first
G.Loomis. I was being trained by professional anglers, so I was learning a
ton about the sport, where to find fish, how to position the boat, what
lures to use, and how to use them, but the act of actually catching a fish
eluded me. These guys were catching fish one right after another and I was
pulling up weeds. I couldn't tell the difference between snagging a weed
and a fish strike. I was using (if I not mistaken) a Berkley Hank Parker or
a Fenwick Hank Parker rod and a cheap Quantum $29.99 or $39.99 reel, that I
was backlashing every other cast. Once I broke down and bought a GL3
Loomis, it was as if someone turned on the lights in my brain.

Now, I believe you could give me a Mickey Mouse rod and an plastic reel and
I could catch fish. For once you have the experience and knowledge, the
high end rod only gives you a little advantage, but when you are learning,
it is without a question the best thing a new angler could every buy. Save
your money on tapes, books, magazines, that one high quality rod & reel
combo is the secret to learning all the different feels of fishing (weeds,
gravel, rock, wood, sand, limbs, and all the various types of strikes).
Well, that and a lot of "On-the-water" practice.

I use G.Loomis now, just because I am use to the feel of the rod, and I like
that ever so SLIGHT advantage it MAY give me over my competitor. It is a
confidence thing now, plain and simple.

--
Craig Baugher

Guess I asked the question on the wrong newsgroup, not like I expected an
answer or anything lol...

Warren

"J Buck" wrote in message
...
I'm seeing a whole line of rods that range from & 80 to $200, with the
top of the line versions at under $300. How does that make them
overpriced?

Wow. After reading that, I realize I may be in the wrong newsgroup. LoL

All this really boils down to what is "custom" and what is not. Kistlers are
now building their rods for the masses. In my eyes these are "not" custom.
As a "custom" rod is built to meet the specs of an individual. At MCR we
only build one rod at a time, well ok maybe several. But the point is that
each rod is built to perform for the individual that receives it. Is it
slick and fancy?; yes it most cases it is.
Will it "out perform" any mass produced rod. Yer damned right it will ,or
your money back!

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods
"Doc (The Tin Boat King)" wrote in message
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I'll have my MR at the Southern Classic if you'd like to give it a try.
Bill P.
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"Craig" wrote in message
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You're right! I do owe you the chance to knock my socks off with a MR.
In
March, I will contact you. I will want a 7' MH & H IMX blank. 10
Titanium/SiC guides. No coating
--
Craig Baugher

I have one of their Helium LTA models and I can tell you it is by far
one of the best, most sensitive rods out there, I get much more casting
distance as well. It is well worth the money for these rods.



Craig Wrote:
Ok, I'm hearing quite a bit about these rods, declaring they are THE
BEST
rod. I have not even heard of this company or it rods before two months
ago. Now it all I hear about. How their Helium LTA rods are better than
G.Loomis's IMX because they have the same sensitivity, yet are lighter
because they have eliminated the cork in front of the reel seat (which
is
the reason they are as sensitive as a IMX).

I know their top of the line Helium LTA rods cost $219-$249. I also
know
that the founder (Trey Kistler) is the son of the gentleman who owned
Castaway rods. Other than that, I know nothing about the company or its
products.

So who owns both Kistler and G.Loomis that can shed some light on the
subject.

--
Craig Baugher


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