Kistler Custom Helium Rods

\"The Shadow\" wrote:
Warren, again I read marketing hype in that article. As to the cork
foregrip, I agree that if it is solidly attached to the blank it might
dampen the "feel" slightly. So the object of the game is to use a hood that
does not come into direct contact with the blank when the reel is secured in
place.

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods

Rod,
When your hand or fingers rest on the hood, wouldn't you loose
sensitivity because it is not directly in contact with the blank?
Jack

~~
Jack Dalzell
http://secretweaponlures.com/jdbass/jdhome.htm
http://www.OutdoorFrontiers.com
~~

Absolutely Jack. Which is why my right hand remains in contact with the
"reelseat" .

As I said if the cork hood is bonded to the blank , you could experience a
reduction in sensitivity.
But the hoods that we use are not glued to the blank. They are glued to a
100% graphite hood which locks the reelseat in. This hood itself never
touches the blank.

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods
"Jack Dalzell Jr." wrote in message
...


\"The Shadow\" wrote:
Warren, again I read marketing hype in that article. As to the cork
foregrip, I agree that if it is solidly attached to the blank it might
dampen the "feel" slightly. So the object of the game is to use a hood
that
does not come into direct contact with the blank when the reel is
secured in
place.

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods

Rod,
When your hand or fingers rest on the hood, wouldn't you loose
sensitivity because it is not directly in contact with the blank?
Jack

~~
Jack Dalzell
http://secretweaponlures.com/jdbass/jdhome.htm
http://www.OutdoorFrontiers.com
~~

I'm talking about a finger being in direct contact with the rod blank. No
hood, attached or detached, could rival that kind of sensitivity...

Warren

""The Shadow"" wrote in message
...
Absolutely Jack. Which is why my right hand remains in contact with the
"reelseat" .

As I said if the cork hood is bonded to the blank , you could experience a
reduction in sensitivity.
But the hoods that we use are not glued to the blank. They are glued to a
100% graphite hood which locks the reelseat in. This hood itself never
touches the blank.

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods
"Jack Dalzell Jr." wrote in message
...


\"The Shadow\" wrote:
Warren, again I read marketing hype in that article. As to the cork
foregrip, I agree that if it is solidly attached to the blank it might
dampen the "feel" slightly. So the object of the game is to use a hood
that
does not come into direct contact with the blank when the reel is
secured in
place.

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods

Rod,
When your hand or fingers rest on the hood, wouldn't you loose
sensitivity because it is not directly in contact with the blank?
Jack

~~
Jack Dalzell
http://secretweaponlures.com/jdbass/jdhome.htm
http://www.OutdoorFrontiers.com
~~

Warren, as you know I use thru blank reelseats ( yeah I know so do most
others.) With our reelseats the blank is also exposed on the underside of
the reelseat ( again I realize most others are) . The point I am trying to
make is that I can always have some part of my hand in direct contact with
the blank.

When someone comes along and tries to tell me that they
heighten the feel from using a locking hood like on the Kistler rods , I
will tell them politely no thanks.

It's hype, a marketing ploy. All they really did was take a stock reelseat
and shortened it so there are no threads exposed in front of the hood. They
add a winding check
to hide any gap between the inside diameter of the seat and the outside
diameter of the blank.

All things considered this is not new stuff, custom builders
have been doing these things for eons.

Warren if you had ever taken a look at my flippen stick you would have
noticed how short a foregrip it has. And I used the same components for it
as I do every rod I build.
In this case I simply took my saw to the parts!

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I'm talking about a finger being in direct contact with the rod blank. No
hood, attached or detached, could rival that kind of sensitivity...

Warren

""The Shadow"" wrote in message
...
Absolutely Jack. Which is why my right hand remains in contact with the
"reelseat" .

As I said if the cork hood is bonded to the blank , you could experience
a
reduction in sensitivity.
But the hoods that we use are not glued to the blank. They are glued to
a
100% graphite hood which locks the reelseat in. This hood itself never
touches the blank.

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods
"Jack Dalzell Jr." wrote in message
...


\"The Shadow\" wrote:
Warren, again I read marketing hype in that article. As to the cork
foregrip, I agree that if it is solidly attached to the blank it
might
dampen the "feel" slightly. So the object of the game is to use a
hood
that
does not come into direct contact with the blank when the reel is
secured in
place.

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods

Rod,
When your hand or fingers rest on the hood, wouldn't you loose
sensitivity because it is not directly in contact with the blank?
Jack

~~
Jack Dalzell
http://secretweaponlures.com/jdbass/jdhome.htm
http://www.OutdoorFrontiers.com
~~

I know the type of reel seat you're speaking of, and when I'm palming the
reel my fingers don't contact the blank (which is exposed only below the
reel) at all. My fingers are totally on the reel, with my index finger
contacting the rod in front of the reel only.

Warren

""The Shadow"" wrote in message
...
Warren, as you know I use thru blank reelseats ( yeah I know so do most
others.) With our reelseats the blank is also exposed on the underside of
the reelseat ( again I realize most others are) . The point I am trying to
make is that I can always have some part of my hand in direct contact with
the blank.

When someone comes along and tries to tell me that they
heighten the feel from using a locking hood like on the Kistler rods , I
will tell them politely no thanks.

It's hype, a marketing ploy. All they really did was take a stock reelseat
and shortened it so there are no threads exposed in front of the hood.
They
add a winding check
to hide any gap between the inside diameter of the seat and the outside
diameter of the blank.

All things considered this is not new stuff, custom builders
have been doing these things for eons.

Warren if you had ever taken a look at my flippen stick you would have
noticed how short a foregrip it has. And I used the same components for it
as I do every rod I build.
In this case I simply took my saw to the parts!

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I'm talking about a finger being in direct contact with the rod blank.
No
hood, attached or detached, could rival that kind of sensitivity...

Warren

""The Shadow"" wrote in message
...
Absolutely Jack. Which is why my right hand remains in contact with
the
"reelseat" .

As I said if the cork hood is bonded to the blank , you could
experience
a
reduction in sensitivity.
But the hoods that we use are not glued to the blank. They are glued
to
a
100% graphite hood which locks the reelseat in. This hood itself never
touches the blank.

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods
"Jack Dalzell Jr." wrote in message
...


\"The Shadow\" wrote:
Warren, again I read marketing hype in that article. As to the
cork
foregrip, I agree that if it is solidly attached to the blank it
might
dampen the "feel" slightly. So the object of the game is to use a
hood
that
does not come into direct contact with the blank when the reel is
secured in
place.

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods

Rod,
When your hand or fingers rest on the hood, wouldn't you loose
sensitivity because it is not directly in contact with the blank?
Jack

~~
Jack Dalzell
http://secretweaponlures.com/jdbass/jdhome.htm
http://www.OutdoorFrontiers.com
~~

On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 19:36:46 -0500, "go-bassn"
wrote:

I know the type of reel seat you're speaking of, and when I'm palming the
reel my fingers don't contact the blank (which is exposed only below the
reel) at all. My fingers are totally on the reel, with my index finger
contacting the rod in front of the reel only.

Warren

Warren

I tryed emailing you this morning. Take a peek at
this URL:

http://www.frabill.com/ice_rods.html#sensive

These are ice rods, and for spinning reels - but look at
the tip top of the handle - the rod projects thru it on the
top and underside, so that you can get your fingers in
contact with the rod blank. Since you are looking at
custom rods anyway, I would think that any rod maker
could do something like this for you.

Jim

That's my point exactly Jim, Any rod builder could and would do this if
asked. Kistler is not doing anything that is not the norm for a custom
builder.

Again it's all marketing hype. And Warren if your fingers cannot contact the
blank on a thru blank reelseat. Well hell son ,maybe you should look to
those stubby little fingers o o

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods
"Jim Laumann" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 19:36:46 -0500, "go-bassn"
wrote:

I know the type of reel seat you're speaking of, and when I'm palming the
reel my fingers don't contact the blank (which is exposed only below the
reel) at all. My fingers are totally on the reel, with my index finger
contacting the rod in front of the reel only.

Warren

Warren

I tryed emailing you this morning. Take a peek at
this URL:

http://www.frabill.com/ice_rods.html#sensive

These are ice rods, and for spinning reels - but look at
the tip top of the handle - the rod projects thru it on the
top and underside, so that you can get your fingers in
contact with the rod blank. Since you are looking at
custom rods anyway, I would think that any rod maker
could do something like this for you.

Jim

Thanks Jim. If you look at the pic with the reel on the rod, it's not
really what I'm getting at. Have you seen the Kistler rod in the link

http://www.fishingworld.com/KistlerR...43153323449&Ca
rt=10760377343447427&SKU=He63APC

You'll have to paste the unblue part to the blue part...

Warren
"Jim Laumann" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 19:36:46 -0500, "go-bassn"
wrote:

I know the type of reel seat you're speaking of, and when I'm palming the
reel my fingers don't contact the blank (which is exposed only below the
reel) at all. My fingers are totally on the reel, with my index finger
contacting the rod in front of the reel only.

Warren

Warren

I tryed emailing you this morning. Take a peek at
this URL:

http://www.frabill.com/ice_rods.html#sensive

These are ice rods, and for spinning reels - but look at
the tip top of the handle - the rod projects thru it on the
top and underside, so that you can get your fingers in
contact with the rod blank. Since you are looking at
custom rods anyway, I would think that any rod maker
could do something like this for you.

Jim