A Local Pond

Larry L wrote:

Some of your posts have shown that one thing you and I have in common is a
love for flies with soft materials and built in action ... I envy you
your little pond and the chance to experiment.

I think those large browns in that little pond are facing a very
difficult time. :-)

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Larry L wrote:

Some of your posts have shown that one thing you and I have in common is a
love for flies with soft materials and built in action ... I envy you
your little pond and the chance to experiment.

I think those large browns in that little pond are facing a very
difficult time. :-)

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Larry L wrote:


BUT

I fish a couple places where it seems nearly impossible to move the
subsurface fly without putting the fish off and thus I use a similar dropper
and long wait tactic..... the tier in me always trying to reduce that wait

Some of your posts have shown that one thing you and I have in common is a
love for flies with soft materials and built in action ... I envy you
your little pond and the chance to experiment. I'd start with a
featherduster variant, or maybe something with filoplume for gills, ... oh,
oh, ... and maybe on a curved hook so it seemed to wiggle it's tails as the
hook bobbed in the slight currents .... and a very short ( real short, one
twist ) single strand of crystal flash at the thorax, such a tiny "spark"
seems to blink on on off with the slightest movement and makes the fly look
more alive, I have better luck with it than a traditional "flashback" Keep
us posted, it's an interesting situation ...

The only thing I noticed hatching were VERY tiny midges. Being this late
in the season, I'm guessing that's the only hatching bugs they see. I
don't fish lakes much, don't like the blind casting and I've always
taken a pretty crude approach and flung large flies like damsels,
buggers, etc. What's to cool to me about this pond is that I can sight fish
and watch the fishes reaction. I went from "crude" and kept going down
in size until I got
the fish on an 18 PT. Next time I'll probably try some San Juan
patterns. However, I have concerns about being able to control one of
the better fish on the light tippet that would be needed. I should be
able to get back by midweek.



BTW, I've never fished in Colorado and am thinking of going there for a
month or so next summer ... as well as spending some time in Alberta ...
expanding my "Montanahoming" trip to include a much larger area ...... I'd
like to meet you and chat about flies tied with Golden Retriever underfur
for an hour or so G ...



Colorado has some excellent fishing, probably some of the best smaller
water fishing in the Country. However, virtually all our waters are
freestone streams and rivers which you're not to fond of. I'd be glad
to show you around. I know of a couple local spots I think you'd like.
Think you'll have fun in Alberta.

Speaking of next year, is there interest in an Alaskan trip? The
motor home "deal" sounds good and during the time I'd like to do a fly in
float for several days. I'm planning on doing some research but I don't
even know where to start. Alaska is a BIG place.

Willi

Larry L wrote:


BUT

I fish a couple places where it seems nearly impossible to move the
subsurface fly without putting the fish off and thus I use a similar dropper
and long wait tactic..... the tier in me always trying to reduce that wait

Some of your posts have shown that one thing you and I have in common is a
love for flies with soft materials and built in action ... I envy you
your little pond and the chance to experiment. I'd start with a
featherduster variant, or maybe something with filoplume for gills, ... oh,
oh, ... and maybe on a curved hook so it seemed to wiggle it's tails as the
hook bobbed in the slight currents .... and a very short ( real short, one
twist ) single strand of crystal flash at the thorax, such a tiny "spark"
seems to blink on on off with the slightest movement and makes the fly look
more alive, I have better luck with it than a traditional "flashback" Keep
us posted, it's an interesting situation ...

The only thing I noticed hatching were VERY tiny midges. Being this late
in the season, I'm guessing that's the only hatching bugs they see. I
don't fish lakes much, don't like the blind casting and I've always
taken a pretty crude approach and flung large flies like damsels,
buggers, etc. What's to cool to me about this pond is that I can sight fish
and watch the fishes reaction. I went from "crude" and kept going down
in size until I got
the fish on an 18 PT. Next time I'll probably try some San Juan
patterns. However, I have concerns about being able to control one of
the better fish on the light tippet that would be needed. I should be
able to get back by midweek.



BTW, I've never fished in Colorado and am thinking of going there for a
month or so next summer ... as well as spending some time in Alberta ...
expanding my "Montanahoming" trip to include a much larger area ...... I'd
like to meet you and chat about flies tied with Golden Retriever underfur
for an hour or so G ...



Colorado has some excellent fishing, probably some of the best smaller
water fishing in the Country. However, virtually all our waters are
freestone streams and rivers which you're not to fond of. I'd be glad
to show you around. I know of a couple local spots I think you'd like.
Think you'll have fun in Alberta.

Speaking of next year, is there interest in an Alaskan trip? The
motor home "deal" sounds good and during the time I'd like to do a fly in
float for several days. I'm planning on doing some research but I don't
even know where to start. Alaska is a BIG place.

Willi

"Willi & Sue" wrote in message
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Larry L wrote:

Speaking of next year, is there interest in an Alaskan trip? The
motor home "deal" sounds good and during the time I'd like to do a fly in
float for several days. I'm planning on doing some research but I don't
even know where to start. Alaska is a BIG place.

I've got grad school until the third week in July, but after that I'd be
very interested in heading up (along with SWMBO). We'd probably buy a camper
van in Arizona, then do a fast drive north (a week, I think), then mosey
southwards ahead of the season changes. If there's a rolling clave going on,
we'd definately hook up.

--riverman

Willi & Sue wrote in message news:41706010$0$210
The fish had cruised some and my first cast ended behind the group of fish
and was ignored. On the next cast, one of the medium sized fish swam
over and inspected the nymph. I just let the fly lie there and the fish
continued to look. After what seemed like a couple minutes, the dry was
pulled under.

I've had luck with browns in the instance where they come over to
inspect the fly and swim away, by taking the fly away when they're
about to inspect it,.. make three or four false casts while they're
wondering about where it went, and then put it back at their nose.
Quite often they'll take it without hesitation given a second chance.

Willi & Sue wrote in message news:41706010$0$210
The fish had cruised some and my first cast ended behind the group of fish
and was ignored. On the next cast, one of the medium sized fish swam
over and inspected the nymph. I just let the fly lie there and the fish
continued to look. After what seemed like a couple minutes, the dry was
pulled under.

I've had luck with browns in the instance where they come over to
inspect the fly and swim away, by taking the fly away when they're
about to inspect it,.. make three or four false casts while they're
wondering about where it went, and then put it back at their nose.
Quite often they'll take it without hesitation given a second chance.

"Willi & Sue" wrote

the fish on an 18 PT. Next time I'll probably try some San Juan
patterns. However, I have concerns about being able to control one of
the better fish on the light tippet that would be needed. I should be
able to get back by midweek.




The 20/20 thing is pretty easy ( 20"trout, size 20 fly) and 22/22 isn't that
hard. I've never done 24/24 and I bet it's pretty rare amongst honest fly
fishers ( yeah, yeah, there really are 3 honest fly fishermen, me and the
other two ... and I ain't ever done 24/24 :-) ... But I vote you go for a
26/26 if there's a Brown that size in there, Willi ... I got faith in ya
G

"Willi & Sue" wrote

the fish on an 18 PT. Next time I'll probably try some San Juan
patterns. However, I have concerns about being able to control one of
the better fish on the light tippet that would be needed. I should be
able to get back by midweek.




The 20/20 thing is pretty easy ( 20"trout, size 20 fly) and 22/22 isn't that
hard. I've never done 24/24 and I bet it's pretty rare amongst honest fly
fishers ( yeah, yeah, there really are 3 honest fly fishermen, me and the
other two ... and I ain't ever done 24/24 :-) ... But I vote you go for a
26/26 if there's a Brown that size in there, Willi ... I got faith in ya
G

Larry L wrote:

"Willi & Sue" wrote


the fish on an 18 PT. Next time I'll probably try some San Juan
patterns. However, I have concerns about being able to control one of
the better fish on the light tippet that would be needed. I should be
able to get back by midweek.





The 20/20 thing is pretty easy ( 20"trout, size 20 fly) and 22/22 isn't that
hard. I've never done 24/24 and I bet it's pretty rare amongst honest fly
fishers ( yeah, yeah, there really are 3 honest fly fishermen, me and the
other two ... and I ain't ever done 24/24 :-) ...


A TRUE 20/20 ain't that easy, a TRUE 22/22 is hard and a TRUE 24/24 even
harder. It's not so much with the difficulty of hooking and landing
them (not that it isn't a challenge) but it's that a fish that size is
uncommonly big in every river and stream I've ever fished. Some ponds
and lakes do yield bigger fish. Even true 20" trout aren't very common
although it seems that some people catch them on every outing. Once a
trout reaches about 15 or 16 inches in most waters, they start putting
on some bulk and begin taking on a different body confirmation. They
start looking big. 20" seems like a magic number and so big fish equals
20".


But I vote you go for a
26/26 if there's a Brown that size in there, Willi ... I got faith in ya

I saw two that MIGHT approach that, but I'm thinking around 24". The
fish I landed was a little shy of 20" and those two were considerably
bigger. Don't think I'll be using a size 26 fly though (don't think I
even have a 26 size hook).

I'm guessing I might hookup next Spring when there's some bigger bugs
moving around.

Willi