BPS Hook are NOT for tournament anglers...

"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
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I lost a fish yesterday that definately would have helped my standings,
due
to a bad hook. I generally have no problems with the BPS hooks, but then
again, every now and then I get one that wants to bend very easily.
Yesterday was a good example. I set the hook on a fish and missed. I knew
good and well that he was there and felt the fish as I set the hook. When
I
reeled in my line, I noticed the the hook was bent like I had hung up on a
rock... except there wasn't enough pressure for a bend like that. I
examined
the hook to find that I could easily bend that thing in any direction I
wanted to, and it would remain in that position.

So, I'm going to be looking for another hook that I can use and won't
bend.
I've tried the gammy's and the owners, but didn't like the gammys and the
owners are way too expensive. Anyone have any suggestions? (EWG - 2/0,
3/0,
4/0)



Charles,

I like the Gamakatsu and Eagle Claw Laser Sharp hooks. The Eagle Claws
appear to be a bit more stout and don't bend as easily, but I like the way
the Gammi's penetrate and especially the way a Fluke type bait works with
the weight of this hook.

I do have to back off a bit on the pressure I apply to a fish when using the
Gammi's as the lighter wire can straighten with 50 pound PowerPro and a
flippin stick, but even then, it doesn't seem to be much of a problem.

Afterall, I did manage to get a seven foot alligator to the boat three times
on a Fluke and a 5/0 Gammi hook.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
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I like the Gamakatsu and Eagle Claw Laser Sharp hooks. The Eagle Claws
appear to be a bit more stout and don't bend as easily, but I like the way
the Gammi's penetrate and especially the way a Fluke type bait works with
the weight of this hook.

I bought a couple of packs of the Lazer Sharp EWGs. I thought they were very
good for a cheap hook (25 for about $3.50 at Wal-Mart). The only thing I
didn't care for is that the point seems to point outward just about a gnat's
eyelash and it doesn't Texpose quite as flat as some other brands.

Those were the first hooks I started using for plastics, and come to think
of it... I liked them. You could get them in a box of 50 for not much cash,
which was good for the rate that I was hanging them up in the rocks.

As far as I can remember too, I'd get a hook hookset with them. (Even on the
rocks, LOL) I think I quit using them because of the rocks, and the way the
other brand would lay on the bait so perfectly. I'll add these to my
shopping list along with the Daiichi's.


"Marty" wrote in message
news

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...
I like the Gamakatsu and Eagle Claw Laser Sharp hooks. The Eagle Claws
appear to be a bit more stout and don't bend as easily, but I like the
way
the Gammi's penetrate and especially the way a Fluke type bait works
with
the weight of this hook.

I bought a couple of packs of the Lazer Sharp EWGs. I thought they were
very
good for a cheap hook (25 for about $3.50 at Wal-Mart). The only thing I
didn't care for is that the point seems to point outward just about a
gnat's
eyelash and it doesn't Texpose quite as flat as some other brands.

Charles Summers wrote:

Those were the first hooks I started using for plastics, and come to think
of it... I liked them. You could get them in a box of 50 for not much cash,
which was good for the rate that I was hanging them up in the rocks.

As far as I can remember too, I'd get a hook hookset with them. (Even on the
rocks, LOL) I think I quit using them because of the rocks, and the way the
other brand would lay on the bait so perfectly. I'll add these to my
shopping list along with the Daiichi's.

It is exstreamly rare that a "hook" hangs in rocks, they hang in brush,
stumps, logs, and weeds,, something they actually penetrate. It's not
impossible to hang them in rocks, but it is rare. There may be brush or
other things in the rocks that is hanging your hooks, making you think
they are snagging in the rocks

Weights hang in rocks, at least most of them do :-)
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:28:27 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

Charles Summers wrote:

Those were the first hooks I started using for plastics, and come to think
of it... I liked them. You could get them in a box of 50 for not much cash,
which was good for the rate that I was hanging them up in the rocks.

As far as I can remember too, I'd get a hook hookset with them. (Even on the
rocks, LOL) I think I quit using them because of the rocks, and the way the
other brand would lay on the bait so perfectly. I'll add these to my
shopping list along with the Daiichi's.

It is exstreamly rare that a "hook" hangs in rocks,

SNIP

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me. I've lost all kids of
stuff to whatever it is that 'looks' like rocks over there. Maybe I'll
get a sample and have Rod ID whatever this bottom cover is for me.
/sarcasm

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

Thundercat wrote:

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me.

I said it was "rare" to actually get a hook snagged in rocks,, a hook,,
not the weight,, I'm sure you were fishing with a bare hook, or just a
soft plastic on it in, 30 feet of water, (yeah right) perhaps you were
using 4# test,, then you might break off before getting a "hook" loose
from rocks. Hooks do not bite into rocks, most are small enough if the
line can get through the cracks, then the hook can, now a bead, or a
swivel, they can easily get stuck in rocks, but mostly you weight hangs
up in rocks, well at least they did, we have pro's fishing rocky lakes
and pre fish and fish up to 3 tournaments on the same weight,, they look
like hell after three weeks of the rocks, but they are still snagless.
These pro's are not snagging their hooks either.


If you don't believe me, ask Bassdozer, some of you know him I think.

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:39:14 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

Thundercat wrote:

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me.

I said it was "rare" to actually get a hook snagged in rocks,, a hook,,
not the weight,, I'm sure you were fishing with a bare hook, or just a
soft plastic on it in, 30 feet of water, (yeah right) perhaps you were
using 4# test,, then you might break off before getting a "hook" loose
from rocks. Hooks do not bite into rocks, most are small enough if the
line can get through the cracks, then the hook can, now a bead, or a
swivel, they can easily get stuck in rocks, but mostly you weight hangs
up in rocks, well at least they did, we have pro's fishing rocky lakes
and pre fish and fish up to 3 tournaments on the same weight,, they look
like hell after three weeks of the rocks, but they are still snagless.
These pro's are not snagging their hooks either.


If you don't believe me, ask Bassdozer, some of you know him I think.

You need to get out and fish more Rodney. Either that or fish some
different types of water. Maybe you don't have the patience to let a
Senko drop on a wacky rig into 30 feet of water on 10 lb fluorocarbon,
however I do. Most of the time it is 13 to 15 feet or shallow riprap.
Is riprap rock Rodney? I just want to make sure...

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

About the rocks......if ya ain't bouncing the bait off the rocks, then
ya ain't fishin the bait right! Who cares if ya losse a few lures that
way, no matter if it's the hook or the weight! If you'er trying not to
get "snagged", then ya ain't really fishing where the fish live. grin

Not!

As far as I know, Rodney hasn't said a thing in a long while! He and Albert
was battleing it out in my kill-file the last I heard. But if he said that
its' rare that a hook can get hung on a rock, then he just aint fishing.
Well, fishing those little Bill Dance ponds is "technically" considered
fishing.


"Thundercat" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:28:27 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me. I've lost all kids of
stuff to whatever it is that 'looks' like rocks over there. Maybe I'll
get a sample and have Rod ID whatever this bottom cover is for me.
/sarcasm

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

Hey! They can't be in your killfile - they're in MY killfile! Life's been
great since they left. They're probably out fishin for catfish & pike in
Alice's canoe.

Warren ;-)

"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
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Not!

As far as I know, Rodney hasn't said a thing in a long while! He and
Albert
was battleing it out in my kill-file the last I heard. But if he said that
its' rare that a hook can get hung on a rock, then he just aint fishing.
Well, fishing those little Bill Dance ponds is "technically" considered
fishing.


"Thundercat" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:28:27 -0500, Rodney . wrote:

Rodney said it, so it must be true. All the times i have lost a hook
in the rocks (ie: Round Valley) must have been my imagination. My
bad...Sure you can see down 30+ feet and see exactly what you are hung
on, but my eyes musta been playin' trix on me. I've lost all kids of
stuff to whatever it is that 'looks' like rocks over there. Maybe I'll
get a sample and have Rod ID whatever this bottom cover is for me.
/sarcasm

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.