Before you buy any Tracker product

My point is... I'm still driving Fords. Just like I still have my Nitro.

Just gotta take care of anything you have if you want it to last.

--
Charles B. Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com


"Sean Barton" wrote in message
...
Hey now, each manufacturer has it's share of less than desirable vehicles.
It's those one's that get the majority of the press, not the quality
vehicles lines each of the maker's put out.
That being said, knock it off Charles!!!!!!! ; )

"Charles Summers" wrote in message
...
How about the Pinto, Edsel, and the Bronco II? Yup... there were plenty
of
bad ones in the bunch.

--
Charles B. Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com


"Track This" wrote in message
.254...
I could see one bad apple ...but two? .. 2 bad boats





"Charles Summers" wrote in
:

Some of us here are very happy with their Tracker products and I'm
sorry you've had a bad experience.

I was looking over the top ten rated lemons in the auto industry the
other day and wasn't surprised that there were several Ford products
listed there, many of which I had owned one time or another. Some of
them I had problems with, some I didn't. But, I still drive a Ford
today because overall, I'm happy with their product.

Never let one bad apple spoil the lot... so they say.

--
Charles B. Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com


"Track This" wrote in message
.254...
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/trackthis/

Yor miss my point ..how come I ended up with two lemon? ... well three
if you count the dealer!

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/trackthis/

"Charles Summers" wrote in
:

My point is... I'm still driving Fords. Just like I still have my
Nitro.

Just gotta take care of anything you have if you want it to last.

--
Charles B. Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com


"Sean Barton" wrote in message
...
Hey now, each manufacturer has it's share of less than desirable
vehicles. It's those one's that get the majority of the press, not
the quality vehicles lines each of the maker's put out.
That being said, knock it off Charles!!!!!!! ; )

"Charles Summers" wrote in message
...
How about the Pinto, Edsel, and the Bronco II? Yup... there were
plenty
of
bad ones in the bunch.

--
Charles B. Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com


"Track This" wrote in message
.254...
I could see one bad apple ...but two? .. 2 bad boats





"Charles Summers" wrote in
:

Some of us here are very happy with their Tracker products and
I'm sorry you've had a bad experience.

I was looking over the top ten rated lemons in the auto
industry the other day and wasn't surprised that there were
several Ford products listed there, many of which I had owned
one time or another. Some of them I had problems with, some I
didn't. But, I still drive a Ford today because overall, I'm
happy with their product.

Never let one bad apple spoil the lot... so they say.

--
Charles B. Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com


"Track This" wrote in message
.254...
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/trackthis/

"Track This" wrote in message
.254...
Yor miss my point ..how come I ended up with two lemon? ... well three
if you count the dealer!

Lack of research? I don't mean to start a flame war, but on average,
Tracker Marine has had more than their fair share of complaints. I've found
that many Tracker owners, especially those that are buying the aluminum
boats, are buying on price alone.

Just like most things in life, you get what you pay for.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Now Steve... we all can't afford a 22' torpedo, so we have to start at the
entry level. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with their aluminum
line, especially since they went to an all welded hull.

Proper maintenance is the key to keeping any boat in good running condition.
Take care of your Tracker and it'll last a lifetime. They have a ten year
warrenty *I think*... at least my Nitro does.

Price, on the other hand, is not really the issue either. Remember Packard
Bell computers? They were priced so that the new users could afford them. In
turn, they also got a bad rep from new users buying them because it's what
they could afford, but not knowing how to properly use them. They'd screw
them up... then complain to the company about building a crappy computer,
when actually they were actually decent computers. I know, cause I had one
that lasted well past it's intended life cycle.

Same thing will apply to boats. Just because you buy one... doesn't mean
that you'll automatically know how to use and maintain it properly.


"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Track This" wrote in message
.254...
Yor miss my point ..how come I ended up with two lemon? ... well three
if you count the dealer!

Lack of research? I don't mean to start a flame war, but on average,
Tracker Marine has had more than their fair share of complaints. I've
found
that many Tracker owners, especially those that are buying the aluminum
boats, are buying on price alone.

Just like most things in life, you get what you pay for.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

"Charles B. Summers" (Comcast) wrote in
message ...
Now Steve... we all can't afford a 22' torpedo, so we have to start at the
entry level. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with their aluminum
line, especially since they went to an all welded hull.

***I guess that didn't come out like I intended it to. No, I realize that
not everyone can afford a top of the line boat. But, like I said, the
people that I know, that bought a Tracker bought it strictly on PRICE, then
were amazed when it started coming apart at the seams, or things started
falling off. There's a reason why items are priced as they are, if you buy
cheap, you get cheap.. The lowest price isn't always the best value, for
ANYTHING, just as paying big bucks doesn't always equate with top quality!

Entry level doesn't always have to be cheap or low quality. The thing that
the original poster could have done is some basic research on Tracker boats,
as well as other boats for similar costs. He could have investigated buying
a used boat of higher quality. Over the years, I've seen many complaints
about the Tracker riveted hull aluminum boats, on many different websites.
I'm sure that a couple hours spent surfing could have found some "spirited"
discussion.

Proper maintenance is the key to keeping any boat in good running
condition.
Take care of your Tracker and it'll last a lifetime. They have a ten year
warrenty *I think*... at least my Nitro does.

***I agree, without proper maintenance, no boat is going to be in good
running conditions. But I personally know two people here in Rhinelander
that used to own riveted hull Trackers. Both of them are fastidious in
maintenance and care. Both of them had problems similar to each other,
rivets coming loose, falling out, cracks in hatch lids, mis-aligned parts,
pieces falling off, hooked up wrong, shoddy workmanship, poor dealer
support, and grief. I'm sure that there are many satisfied Tracker owners
out there, probably as many or more than disgruntled owners, but there seems
to be a definite trend. You bought a Nitro, totally different boat. The
quality is better, but then again, you paid considerably more for that boat
than an aluminum hull.


Price, on the other hand, is not really the issue either. Remember Packard
Bell computers? They were priced so that the new users could afford them.
In
turn, they also got a bad rep from new users buying them because it's what
they could afford, but not knowing how to properly use them. They'd screw
them up... then complain to the company about building a crappy computer,
when actually they were actually decent computers. I know, cause I had one
that lasted well past it's intended life cycle.

***Agreed, new users aren't necessarily the best spokespeople for an item.
You had good service from a Packard Bell computer, I on the other hand, did
not. I had a system board fail, the hard drive constantly was developing
bad tracks, the video board crapped twice and it was slow. After the
warranty expired, so did my time as a Packard Bell user. I now pay more for
a computer, but I've done research, finding out what offered good value for
the dollar and I'm happy. The same thing applies to boats, cars, trucks, or
any major purchase. If you don't do your homework and buy strictly on
price, you'll end up paying more in the long run, because you have to
replace the item more often, or you'll have constant frustration.

Same thing will apply to boats. Just because you buy one... doesn't mean
that you'll automatically know how to use and maintain it properly.

***Believe me, this I know, agree with you on and always will.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Track This" wrote in message
.254...
Yor miss my point ..how come I ended up with two lemon? ... well
three
if you count the dealer!

Lack of research? I don't mean to start a flame war, but on average,
Tracker Marine has had more than their fair share of complaints. I've
found
that many Tracker owners, especially those that are buying the aluminum
boats, are buying on price alone.

Just like most things in life, you get what you pay for.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...
***Agreed, new users aren't necessarily the best spokespeople for an item.
You had good service from a Packard Bell computer, I on the other hand,
did
not. I had a system board fail, the hard drive constantly was developing
bad tracks, the video board crapped twice and it was slow. After the
warranty expired, so did my time as a Packard Bell user. I now pay more
for
a computer, but I've done research, finding out what offered good value
for
the dollar and I'm happy. The same thing applies to boats, cars, trucks,
or
any major purchase. If you don't do your homework and buy strictly on
price, you'll end up paying more in the long run, because you have to
replace the item more often, or you'll have constant frustration.

Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Steve,
If you followed your own advice wouldn't you be driving a F350 CrewCab
SuperDuty Diesel? I'm just kidding of course. I don't want to start a
truck vs.truck thread.

This boat has been maintained

"Charles B. Summers" (Comcast) wrote in
:

Now Steve... we all can't afford a 22' torpedo, so we have to start at
the entry level. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with their
aluminum line, especially since they went to an all welded hull.

Proper maintenance is the key to keeping any boat in good running
condition. Take care of your Tracker and it'll last a lifetime. They
have a ten year warrenty *I think*... at least my Nitro does.

Price, on the other hand, is not really the issue either. Remember
Packard Bell computers? They were priced so that the new users could
afford them. In turn, they also got a bad rep from new users buying
them because it's what they could afford, but not knowing how to
properly use them. They'd screw them up... then complain to the
company about building a crappy computer, when actually they were
actually decent computers. I know, cause I had one that lasted well
past it's intended life cycle.

Same thing will apply to boats. Just because you buy one... doesn't
mean that you'll automatically know how to use and maintain it
properly.


"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Track This" wrote in message
.254...
Yor miss my point ..how come I ended up with two lemon? ... well
three if you count the dealer!

Lack of research? I don't mean to start a flame war, but on average,
Tracker Marine has had more than their fair share of complaints.
I've
found
that many Tracker owners, especially those that are buying the
aluminum boats, are buying on price alone.

Just like most things in life, you get what you pay for.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Track This" wrote in message
.254...
Yor miss my point ..how come I ended up with two lemon? ... well three
if you count the dealer!

Lack of research? I don't mean to start a flame war, but on average,
Tracker Marine has had more than their fair share of complaints. I've
found
that many Tracker owners, especially those that are buying the aluminum
boats, are buying on price alone.

Just like most things in life, you get what you pay for.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


Please, don't confuse this person with something as simple as logic Steve.
LOL! (the "get what you pay for thing"...)

I've read this guy's site, and he had a couple of legitimate complaints that
turned into some worse things, but from what I can read over there, has been
hampered greatly his lack of control over his temper (if his story is to be
believed). He is expecting Cadillac/Ranger service from a Chevy/ BassTracker
and I can tell ya, it simply doesn't happen. Should issues with a new boat
be addressed? Yes. But when it doesn't happen on your schedule, patience is
required.

Besides, I was the same way, wanted an aluminum boat, something relatively
inexpensive, could be towed with something as small as a TraiBlazer/V6 and
ended up in the aluminum market. IMMEDIATELY saw the "possibility" of me not
being happy with a riveted boat and its enduring leak potential, so I went
for another brand, just as cheap, that was welded (and, IMO, comes with a
superior Yammy OB).

So, should Tracker be held accountable for their problematic product here?
Yes. Should they take all the blame? No, it's a riveted boat and the Track
This guy should have considered that farther down the road PAST the monthly
payment target he had in mind, the same time he was looking at the boat on
the lot with a chubby to own it.

I mean who here tha owns an alumininum boat HASN'T had a lot of metal
shavings to deal with. He apparently went off on l them for not getting all
the shavings out of the boat. Took me 10 minutes with a garden hose and a
wet/dry vac to get rid of the pound of shavings that came in my boat's hull,
fresh from the factory...

And please don't see this as backing up Tracker. I'd been eyeing a B-T for a
long while (years) before I actually got to look at one in person. Was badly
disappointed with their build quality in person and kept on looking. But
that's just me.

"SimRacer" wrote in message
om...


"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Track This" wrote in message
.254...
Yor miss my point ..how come I ended up with two lemon? ... well
three
if you count the dealer!

Lack of research? I don't mean to start a flame war, but on average,
Tracker Marine has had more than their fair share of complaints. I've
found
that many Tracker owners, especially those that are buying the aluminum
boats, are buying on price alone.

Just like most things in life, you get what you pay for.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


Please, don't confuse this person with something as simple as logic Steve.
LOL! (the "get what you pay for thing"...)

I've read this guy's site, and he had a couple of legitimate complaints
that
turned into some worse things, but from what I can read over there, has
been
hampered greatly his lack of control over his temper (if his story is to
be
believed). He is expecting Cadillac/Ranger service from a Chevy/
BassTracker
and I can tell ya, it simply doesn't happen. Should issues with a new boat
be addressed? Yes. But when it doesn't happen on your schedule, patience
is
required.

Besides, I was the same way, wanted an aluminum boat, something relatively
inexpensive, could be towed with something as small as a TraiBlazer/V6 and
ended up in the aluminum market. IMMEDIATELY saw the "possibility" of me
not
being happy with a riveted boat and its enduring leak potential, so I went
for another brand, just as cheap, that was welded (and, IMO, comes with a
superior Yammy OB).

So, should Tracker be held accountable for their problematic product here?
Yes. Should they take all the blame? No, it's a riveted boat and the Track
This guy should have considered that farther down the road PAST the
monthly
payment target he had in mind, the same time he was looking at the boat on
the lot with a chubby to own it.

I mean who here tha owns an alumininum boat HASN'T had a lot of metal
shavings to deal with. He apparently went off on l them for not getting
all
the shavings out of the boat. Took me 10 minutes with a garden hose and a
wet/dry vac to get rid of the pound of shavings that came in my boat's
hull,
fresh from the factory...

And please don't see this as backing up Tracker. I'd been eyeing a B-T for
a
long while (years) before I actually got to look at one in person. Was
badly
disappointed with their build quality in person and kept on looking. But
that's just me.



I have 2 aluminum boats. My 14' Valco Riveted boat developed a few loose
rivets after a couple of years. 2x 250# guys can do that to a rivet. No
shavings when I bought the boat, but did find an extra rivet floating
around. But in 1987 when I bought the boat for $1000 and a Mariner 15HP
longshaft motor for $2300 I knew what I was getting. A car topper boat. Do
not expect it to pull skiers, and do 30 mph. I accept that there will be
repairs and replaced rivets over the years. My other aluminum boat is
welded and the bottom is 0.190" thick. For $26k in 1991, you expect a
really good boat, with warrantee. I have had to have a chine replaced and
had the boat repainted a year ago. Chines do not always survive a park on
top the gravel bar at 25 mph. You do get what you pay for, and you also
have to work with the manufacturer to fix any warrantee problems.
Bill

I have two aluminum boats, a 2003 Tracker Jet and a 1996 16' Sea Nymph. I
hate to say it, but the Sea Nymph (which is for sale) is built far better
than the Tracker. Everything is straight, perfectly fitted, painted
beautifully, and it's riveted. There is not one crack in the paint near any
of the rivets, hence it's perfectly watertight, and it's like new. The
Tracker on the other hand has had a myriad of small "touch-up" warranty
repairs since new, mostly stupid stuff, but it is a lot of boat for the
money. I got what I paid for.


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"SimRacer" wrote in message
om...


"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Track This" wrote in message
.254...
Yor miss my point ..how come I ended up with two lemon? ... well
three
if you count the dealer!

Lack of research? I don't mean to start a flame war, but on average,
Tracker Marine has had more than their fair share of complaints. I've
found
that many Tracker owners, especially those that are buying the
aluminum
boats, are buying on price alone.

Just like most things in life, you get what you pay for.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


Please, don't confuse this person with something as simple as logic
Steve.
LOL! (the "get what you pay for thing"...)

I've read this guy's site, and he had a couple of legitimate complaints
that
turned into some worse things, but from what I can read over there, has
been
hampered greatly his lack of control over his temper (if his story is to
be
believed). He is expecting Cadillac/Ranger service from a Chevy/
BassTracker
and I can tell ya, it simply doesn't happen. Should issues with a new
boat
be addressed? Yes. But when it doesn't happen on your schedule, patience
is
required.

Besides, I was the same way, wanted an aluminum boat, something
relatively
inexpensive, could be towed with something as small as a TraiBlazer/V6
and
ended up in the aluminum market. IMMEDIATELY saw the "possibility" of me
not
being happy with a riveted boat and its enduring leak potential, so I
went
for another brand, just as cheap, that was welded (and, IMO, comes with
a
superior Yammy OB).

So, should Tracker be held accountable for their problematic product
here?
Yes. Should they take all the blame? No, it's a riveted boat and the
Track
This guy should have considered that farther down the road PAST the
monthly
payment target he had in mind, the same time he was looking at the boat
on
the lot with a chubby to own it.

I mean who here tha owns an alumininum boat HASN'T had a lot of metal
shavings to deal with. He apparently went off on l them for not getting
all
the shavings out of the boat. Took me 10 minutes with a garden hose and
a
wet/dry vac to get rid of the pound of shavings that came in my boat's
hull,
fresh from the factory...

And please don't see this as backing up Tracker. I'd been eyeing a B-T
for
a
long while (years) before I actually got to look at one in person. Was
badly
disappointed with their build quality in person and kept on looking. But
that's just me.



I have 2 aluminum boats. My 14' Valco Riveted boat developed a few loose
rivets after a couple of years. 2x 250# guys can do that to a rivet. No
shavings when I bought the boat, but did find an extra rivet floating
around. But in 1987 when I bought the boat for $1000 and a Mariner 15HP
longshaft motor for $2300 I knew what I was getting. A car topper boat.
Do
not expect it to pull skiers, and do 30 mph. I accept that there will be
repairs and replaced rivets over the years. My other aluminum boat is
welded and the bottom is 0.190" thick. For $26k in 1991, you expect a
really good boat, with warrantee. I have had to have a chine replaced and
had the boat repainted a year ago. Chines do not always survive a park on
top the gravel bar at 25 mph. You do get what you pay for, and you also
have to work with the manufacturer to fix any warrantee problems.
Bill