A drop leader is not a drop shot

The remark about yesterday was a Punny - I hope you took it that way,
Warren.
I would like to wet a line with you someday also.

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I remember those long nights studying. Organic chemistry, physics,
microbiology...yuk! All of my bad dreams these days concern my thinking
that I've got a big test tomorrow, and It's been almost 20 years since I
took a test lol. Had that dream last night in fact.

I hope we get to wet a line together big-guy.

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
om...

Warren,

I was just born yesterday - but I stayed up all night studying.


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
rotflmfao! Where have I heard that before? Maybe there's a newsgroup
for braindead fisherman who actually fall for Rodney's spew.

I love the way he claims those hooks make the bait "kick out" when you
tighten the line. Like that tiny soft plastic's gonna make the hook
droop on a slack line anyway, lol. And how he claims the hook prevents
gut-hooking - sure, if you're using piano wire for line! And how his
hook makes the fish smell the bait better, Rod's a real expert on
olfactory senses lol.

He also claims his sinker can go through riprap without snagging. I
know some riprap that'll eat his sinkers like I eat Boston Creme Donuts.
He claims it hops from rock to rock. We were born at night, but not
last night Rod! The Lindners' weights with the piano wire trailers are
the most snagproof sinkers ever made.

As for a tool to help you tye a knot? I won't even go there.

Snake Oil Salesman extraodinaire Rodney, just killfile the numbskull.
--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
. com...
I think most of us recognize the fact that there is nothing new under
the Sun. Just small modifications to "already been invented things." You
may not have noticed that the State of Michigan does not allow you to
tie a hook directly to the main line, you have to have a 3 inch dropper.
So your drop shot hook will not "play in Peoria."

You remind me of the proverbial "Snake Oil Salesman." You have a knack
for developing things that fisherman don't need.

EZKnot - for people that cannot tie there shoes.

Stand out Hooks - For people that have not learned the Polomer Knot.

Rock Hopper - A take off of the old "welding rod" weight. The Linders
No Hang weight is much better, in my opinion.

Long Shot, Wiggle, Boomerang - This is mainly for people who cannot
wiggle a rod tip.

Rig Saver - If your fishing in current your not catching fish. From
everything I have read, fish do not like strong current. But I get your
point. You need a bigger weight.

These are just my observations on the subject. You do have an inventive
mind. So did P.T. Barnum.



"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Using A drop leader, is not drop shotting,, drop shotting does not use
a leader from the main line to the hook,, dropper rigs with drop
leaders with the weight below them, is a way to fish off the bottom,
or a way to use more than one hook fishing, this method has been used
for a very long time,, usually with natural baits, but sometimes with
small lures (the Sabinky rig) bouncing the weight, or tightening the
line between the weight produces little action to the hooks when they
are hung on leaders.

Although tying a hook straight to the main line and a weight below has
also been down in the past, is was always used with natural bait, and
the fisherman just did not know how to make a drop leader rig, which
he would have rather used, if he knew how.

The technique of actually drop shotting, like done today is relative
new, where the fisherman tries to add a little action to a lure, even
with it basically stationary. (note) the StandOut hook adds to this
action, as it "kicks" the lure when the line draws taught against the
weight.

The Mojo SpecTastic Rig takes drop shotting to an entirely new level,
where total lure action is controlled even in 6 inches of water or on
the surface

The only reason I posted this is to let some know the difference,, if
they have never drop shotted before,

You don't need either of my inventions to drop shot effectively, they
just make it better
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Nope. Only bass fishing I saw was this boat that I talked to when they came
in. Not a lot of big lakes, and that surprised me. Was on the Cinque Terre
for 9 days and was bad weather. Winds and rain 1/2 the time. Would like to
do some tuna in the Med sometime. In January / Feb I am going to South
America: Galapagos's and the Amazon. Supposed to fish the Amazon basin at
least 1 day.
Bill

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Bill did you get a chance to wet a line over there? I know there are
die-hards in Italy.

I hear if you get skunked over there you "swim with the fishes" lol.

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...
I just returned from a months vacation in Italy. Thought about you,
Rodney.
Was in a fishing museum on Lake Tresimento on the Umbria , Tuscany
border.
They had pictures of a close relative to the drop shot rig. Was a
weight
on
the bottom and a float to the surface on a line. Off this line was the
main
line with a couple of hooks, so they could give action to the hooks and
be
off the bottom. This rig was dated 100 B.C. Romans were even into
dropshot
fishing. While there, I talked to a couple of guys who came in from
bass
fishing, they do have large mouth bass in the lake to 3#. He had a
tracker
bass boat, about 16-17 feet, and said it cost about 19,500 Euros.
Present
value is $1.24 to 1 Euro. Expensive. Gave them a copy of Western
Outdoor
News I had in the backpack. They said the fishing was tough as the
lake
was down about 3' and stirred up.

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Using A drop leader, is not drop shotting,, drop shotting does not use
a
leader from the main line to the hook,, dropper rigs with drop leaders
with the weight below them, is a way to fish off the bottom, or a way
to
use more than one hook fishing, this method has been used for a very
long time,, usually with natural baits, but sometimes with small lures
(the Sabinky rig) bouncing the weight, or tightening the line between
the weight produces little action to the hooks when they are hung on
leaders.

Although tying a hook straight to the main line and a weight below has
also been down in the past, is was always used with natural bait, and
the fisherman just did not know how to make a drop leader rig, which he
would have rather used, if he knew how.

The technique of actually drop shotting, like done today is relative
new, where the fisherman tries to add a little action to a lure, even
with it basically stationary. (note) the StandOut hook adds to this
action, as it "kicks" the lure when the line draws taught against the
weight.

The Mojo SpecTastic Rig takes drop shotting to an entirely new level,
where total lure action is controlled even in 6 inches of water or on
the surface

The only reason I posted this is to let some know the difference,, if
they have never drop shotted before,

You don't need either of my inventions to drop shot effectively, they
just make it better
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Sounds fun Bill, take some pics. Catch one of those "tiger fish" lol.

Don't lip him!

Warren

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...
Nope. Only bass fishing I saw was this boat that I talked to when they
came
in. Not a lot of big lakes, and that surprised me. Was on the Cinque
Terre
for 9 days and was bad weather. Winds and rain 1/2 the time. Would like
to
do some tuna in the Med sometime. In January / Feb I am going to South
America: Galapagos's and the Amazon. Supposed to fish the Amazon basin at
least 1 day.
Bill

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Bill did you get a chance to wet a line over there? I know there are
die-hards in Italy.

I hear if you get skunked over there you "swim with the fishes" lol.

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...
I just returned from a months vacation in Italy. Thought about you,
Rodney.
Was in a fishing museum on Lake Tresimento on the Umbria , Tuscany
border.
They had pictures of a close relative to the drop shot rig. Was a
weight
on
the bottom and a float to the surface on a line. Off this line was
the
main
line with a couple of hooks, so they could give action to the hooks
and
be
off the bottom. This rig was dated 100 B.C. Romans were even into
dropshot
fishing. While there, I talked to a couple of guys who came in from
bass
fishing, they do have large mouth bass in the lake to 3#. He had a
tracker
bass boat, about 16-17 feet, and said it cost about 19,500 Euros.
Present
value is $1.24 to 1 Euro. Expensive. Gave them a copy of Western
Outdoor
News I had in the backpack. They said the fishing was tough as the
lake
was down about 3' and stirred up.

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Using A drop leader, is not drop shotting,, drop shotting does not
use
a
leader from the main line to the hook,, dropper rigs with drop
leaders
with the weight below them, is a way to fish off the bottom, or a way
to
use more than one hook fishing, this method has been used for a very
long time,, usually with natural baits, but sometimes with small
lures
(the Sabinky rig) bouncing the weight, or tightening the line between
the weight produces little action to the hooks when they are hung on
leaders.

Although tying a hook straight to the main line and a weight below
has
also been down in the past, is was always used with natural bait, and
the fisherman just did not know how to make a drop leader rig, which
he
would have rather used, if he knew how.

The technique of actually drop shotting, like done today is relative
new, where the fisherman tries to add a little action to a lure, even
with it basically stationary. (note) the StandOut hook adds to this
action, as it "kicks" the lure when the line draws taught against the
weight.

The Mojo SpecTastic Rig takes drop shotting to an entirely new level,
where total lure action is controlled even in 6 inches of water or on
the surface

The only reason I posted this is to let some know the difference,, if
they have never drop shotted before,

You don't need either of my inventions to drop shot effectively, they
just make it better
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

I'm right there with ya big-guy, no worries! Comin to TN?

Warren

"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
om...
The remark about yesterday was a Punny - I hope you took it that way,
Warren.
I would like to wet a line with you someday also.

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I remember those long nights studying. Organic chemistry, physics,
microbiology...yuk! All of my bad dreams these days concern my thinking
that I've got a big test tomorrow, and It's been almost 20 years since I
took a test lol. Had that dream last night in fact.

I hope we get to wet a line together big-guy.

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
om...

Warren,

I was just born yesterday - but I stayed up all night studying.


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
rotflmfao! Where have I heard that before? Maybe there's a newsgroup
for braindead fisherman who actually fall for Rodney's spew.

I love the way he claims those hooks make the bait "kick out" when you
tighten the line. Like that tiny soft plastic's gonna make the hook
droop on a slack line anyway, lol. And how he claims the hook
prevents
gut-hooking - sure, if you're using piano wire for line! And how his
hook makes the fish smell the bait better, Rod's a real expert on
olfactory senses lol.

He also claims his sinker can go through riprap without snagging. I
know some riprap that'll eat his sinkers like I eat Boston Creme
Donuts.
He claims it hops from rock to rock. We were born at night, but not
last night Rod! The Lindners' weights with the piano wire trailers
are
the most snagproof sinkers ever made.

As for a tool to help you tye a knot? I won't even go there.

Snake Oil Salesman extraodinaire Rodney, just killfile the numbskull.
--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
. com...
I think most of us recognize the fact that there is nothing new under
the Sun. Just small modifications to "already been invented things."
You
may not have noticed that the State of Michigan does not allow you to
tie a hook directly to the main line, you have to have a 3 inch
dropper.
So your drop shot hook will not "play in Peoria."

You remind me of the proverbial "Snake Oil Salesman." You have a
knack
for developing things that fisherman don't need.

EZKnot - for people that cannot tie there shoes.

Stand out Hooks - For people that have not learned the Polomer Knot.

Rock Hopper - A take off of the old "welding rod" weight. The Linders
No Hang weight is much better, in my opinion.

Long Shot, Wiggle, Boomerang - This is mainly for people who cannot
wiggle a rod tip.

Rig Saver - If your fishing in current your not catching fish. From
everything I have read, fish do not like strong current. But I get
your
point. You need a bigger weight.

These are just my observations on the subject. You do have an
inventive
mind. So did P.T. Barnum.



"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Using A drop leader, is not drop shotting,, drop shotting does not
use
a leader from the main line to the hook,, dropper rigs with drop
leaders with the weight below them, is a way to fish off the bottom,
or a way to use more than one hook fishing, this method has been
used
for a very long time,, usually with natural baits, but sometimes
with
small lures (the Sabinky rig) bouncing the weight, or tightening the
line between the weight produces little action to the hooks when
they
are hung on leaders.

Although tying a hook straight to the main line and a weight below
has
also been down in the past, is was always used with natural bait,
and
the fisherman just did not know how to make a drop leader rig, which
he would have rather used, if he knew how.

The technique of actually drop shotting, like done today is relative
new, where the fisherman tries to add a little action to a lure,
even
with it basically stationary. (note) the StandOut hook adds to this
action, as it "kicks" the lure when the line draws taught against
the
weight.

The Mojo SpecTastic Rig takes drop shotting to an entirely new
level,
where total lure action is controlled even in 6 inches of water or
on
the surface

The only reason I posted this is to let some know the difference,,
if
they have never drop shotted before,

You don't need either of my inventions to drop shot effectively,
they
just make it better
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

"go-bassn" wrote in message
news
Sounds fun Bill, take some pics. Catch one of those "tiger fish" lol.

Don't lip him!

Tigerfish I believe are in Africa, it's the Payara that resides in South
America and THAT is one toothy critter that I WILL do battle with some day.
Imagine, a fish with lower canine teeth so long that there's holes in the
upper jaw for them to slide into! Man, now them's some teeth! I gotta get
at least one.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

"go-bassn" wrote in message
news
Sounds fun Bill, take some pics. Catch one of those "tiger fish" lol.

Don't lip him!

Tigerfish I believe are in Africa, it's the Payara that resides in South
America and THAT is one toothy critter that I WILL do battle with some day.
Imagine, a fish with lower canine teeth so long that there's holes in the
upper jaw for them to slide into! Man, now them's some teeth! I gotta get
at least one.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

You're right Steve, my bad. I think those Payaras would use your muskies
for toothpics if they shared the same waters lol.

-
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"go-bassn" wrote in message
news
Sounds fun Bill, take some pics. Catch one of those "tiger fish" lol.

Don't lip him!

Tigerfish I believe are in Africa, it's the Payara that resides in South
America and THAT is one toothy critter that I WILL do battle with some
day. Imagine, a fish with lower canine teeth so long that there's holes in
the upper jaw for them to slide into! Man, now them's some teeth! I
gotta get at least one.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Yoo's guys can have them over-dentured snakes, I'm looking forward to the
Peacocks, saving my woodchoppers for a trip down there too, one day! ;-) I
have flown over and around Angels falls but not wet a line! Road in a thirty
foot dug out canoe up the Ornoko and it was just killing me. It was the
hardest day of my life, so close yet so far!
--
Steve

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You're right Steve, my bad. I think those Payaras would use your muskies
for toothpics if they shared the same waters lol.

-
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"go-bassn" wrote in message
news
Sounds fun Bill, take some pics. Catch one of those "tiger fish" lol.

Don't lip him!

Tigerfish I believe are in Africa, it's the Payara that resides in South
America and THAT is one toothy critter that I WILL do battle with some
day. Imagine, a fish with lower canine teeth so long that there's holes
in
the upper jaw for them to slide into! Man, now them's some teeth! I
gotta get at least one.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com





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Yoo's guys can have them over-dentured snakes, I'm looking forward to the
Peacocks, saving my woodchoppers for a trip down there too, one day! ;-) I
have flown over and around Angels falls but not wet a line! Road in a thirty
foot dug out canoe up the Ornoko and it was just killing me. It was the
hardest day of my life, so close yet so far!
--
Steve

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You're right Steve, my bad. I think those Payaras would use your muskies
for toothpics if they shared the same waters lol.

-
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
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"go-bassn" wrote in message
news
Sounds fun Bill, take some pics. Catch one of those "tiger fish" lol.

Don't lip him!

Tigerfish I believe are in Africa, it's the Payara that resides in South
America and THAT is one toothy critter that I WILL do battle with some
day. Imagine, a fish with lower canine teeth so long that there's holes
in
the upper jaw for them to slide into! Man, now them's some teeth! I
gotta get at least one.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com





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"Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message
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Yoo's guys can have them over-dentured snakes, I'm looking forward to the
Peacocks, saving my woodchoppers for a trip down there too, one day! ;-)
I
have flown over and around Angels falls but not wet a line! Road in a
thirty
foot dug out canoe up the Ornoko and it was just killing me. It was the
hardest day of my life, so close yet so far!
--
Steve

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You're right Steve, my bad. I think those Payaras would use your
muskies
for toothpics if they shared the same waters lol.

-
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
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"go-bassn" wrote in message
news Sounds fun Bill, take some pics. Catch one of those "tiger fish"
lol.

Don't lip him!

Tigerfish I believe are in Africa, it's the Payara that resides in
South
America and THAT is one toothy critter that I WILL do battle with some
day. Imagine, a fish with lower canine teeth so long that there's
holes
in
the upper jaw for them to slide into! Man, now them's some teeth! I
gotta get at least one.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com





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They quote fishing for pirana. PRefer the peacocks.
Bill