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rw wrote:
Frank Reid wrote:

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that
we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only
unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American
public."
(Theodore Roosevelt 1918)



Awesome quote.


Some people like to compare GWB to TR. Ironically, while GWB supporters
do it to flatter GWB, the President's opponents intend it as criticism,
citing the erroneous popular opinion that TR was a warmonger. They're
both wrong. Here are some comparisons, and you can fill in the
comparable GWB characteristics on your own:

Aside from an insurgency in the Philippines, which he inherited from the
assassinated McKinley, there was not a single American military casualty
during TR's nearly eight years in office.

TR was a master of diplomacy, and in particular of using diplomacy to
resolve dangerous conflicts. He won the Nobel Peace Prize for
negotiating an end to the Russo-Japanese War.

TR was an authentic war hero, showing astonishing personal bravery in
the Spanish American War.

TR's most famous quote is, "Speak softly and carry a big stick."

TR was a voracious reader and a prolific writer. He was a world-class
historian, and made his living by the pen when he wasn't in office.

TR was the greatest conservationist we have ever had as President.

TR ended his second term (first elected term) as the most popular man in
the world, and declined to run for a third term as a matter of
principle, citing the example of George Washington.

The only valid similarity I can think of, and this applies more to GWB's
political advisers than to GWB himself, is that TR was a genius at
manipulating the press.


And here's another biggie I forgot:

TR first made his reputation, first as Governor of New York and
continuing as President, as a "trustbuster," standing up to
out-of-control monopoly capitalism and special interests, and fighting
for regulation in the public interest. It's bizarre in hindsight that TR
was a Republican, but the Republican Party was a very different animal
in those days.

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Allen Epps wrote:

I highly recommend both "The rise of Theodore Roosevelt" and "Theodore
Rex" both by Edmund Morris for anyone who thinks politics now are
nastier than ever.

Allen

www.bullmooserepublicans.com

Those are GREAT books. I'm breathlessly awaiting Morris's third and
final volume -- about the Bull Moose era.

BTW, American politics were never more nasty than in the years
immediately following the Revolution. It isn't even close. That was NASTY!

What mystifies me is that now, with our far larger population, we can't
find political leaders with nearly as much character, intelligence,
vision, and bravery.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Allen Epps wrote:

I highly recommend both "The rise of Theodore Roosevelt" and "Theodore
Rex" both by Edmund Morris for anyone who thinks politics now are
nastier than ever.

Allen

www.bullmooserepublicans.com

Those are GREAT books. I'm breathlessly awaiting Morris's third and
final volume -- about the Bull Moose era.

BTW, American politics were never more nasty than in the years
immediately following the Revolution. It isn't even close. That was NASTY!

What mystifies me is that now, with our far larger population, we can't
find political leaders with nearly as much character, intelligence,
vision, and bravery.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

"Allen Epps" wrote in message
et...

I highly recommend both "The rise of Theodore Roosevelt" and "Theodore
Rex" both by Edmund Morris for anyone who thinks politics now are
nastier than ever.

Allen

The short recapitulation of the events surrounding Jefferson's first
election, roughly a century earlier, in November's "Smithsonian"
("Cliffhanger: The Election of 1800", by John Ferling) provides a similar
insight into the more or less steady state of American national politics.

Wolfgang
and then there's that whole burr/hamilton thingy.

"Allen Epps" wrote in message
et...

I highly recommend both "The rise of Theodore Roosevelt" and "Theodore
Rex" both by Edmund Morris for anyone who thinks politics now are
nastier than ever.

Allen

The short recapitulation of the events surrounding Jefferson's first
election, roughly a century earlier, in November's "Smithsonian"
("Cliffhanger: The Election of 1800", by John Ferling) provides a similar
insight into the more or less steady state of American national politics.

Wolfgang
and then there's that whole burr/hamilton thingy.

rw wrote:
Allen Epps wrote:


I highly recommend both "The rise of Theodore Roosevelt" and "Theodore
Rex" both by Edmund Morris for anyone who thinks politics now are
nastier than ever.
Allen

www.bullmooserepublicans.com


Those are GREAT books. I'm breathlessly awaiting Morris's third and
final volume -- about the Bull Moose era.

BTW, American politics were never more nasty than in the years
immediately following the Revolution. It isn't even close. That was NASTY!

What mystifies me is that now, with our far larger population, we can't
find political leaders with nearly as much character, intelligence,
vision, and bravery.

imo, the siren song of capitalism is simply too powerful...

jeff

rw wrote:
Allen Epps wrote:


I highly recommend both "The rise of Theodore Roosevelt" and "Theodore
Rex" both by Edmund Morris for anyone who thinks politics now are
nastier than ever.
Allen

www.bullmooserepublicans.com


Those are GREAT books. I'm breathlessly awaiting Morris's third and
final volume -- about the Bull Moose era.

BTW, American politics were never more nasty than in the years
immediately following the Revolution. It isn't even close. That was NASTY!

What mystifies me is that now, with our far larger population, we can't
find political leaders with nearly as much character, intelligence,
vision, and bravery.

imo, the siren song of capitalism is simply too powerful...

jeff

"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
news:Ykdhd.3214$GN4.1950@okepread02...
//snip//
BTW, American politics were never more nasty than in the years
immediately following the Revolution. It isn't even close. That was
NASTY!

What mystifies me is that now, with our far larger population, we can't
find political leaders with nearly as much character, intelligence,
vision, and bravery.

imo, the siren song of capitalism is simply too powerful...

jeff


Harry Truman might fit the bill. And I think a pretty good argument could be
made for Lyndon Johnson. He got involved in the southeast Asia war, but he
inherited that and, considering the temper of the times, had little
alternative but to get farther into it instead of getting out.

But, as somebody said, it's been a long time between drinks.

Another good read is John Adams by David McCullough. During the 19th
century, and especially in the first half, presidential campaigns were
considerably nastier than today's.

Bob

"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
news:Ykdhd.3214$GN4.1950@okepread02...
//snip//
BTW, American politics were never more nasty than in the years
immediately following the Revolution. It isn't even close. That was
NASTY!

What mystifies me is that now, with our far larger population, we can't
find political leaders with nearly as much character, intelligence,
vision, and bravery.

imo, the siren song of capitalism is simply too powerful...

jeff


Harry Truman might fit the bill. And I think a pretty good argument could be
made for Lyndon Johnson. He got involved in the southeast Asia war, but he
inherited that and, considering the temper of the times, had little
alternative but to get farther into it instead of getting out.

But, as somebody said, it's been a long time between drinks.

Another good read is John Adams by David McCullough. During the 19th
century, and especially in the first half, presidential campaigns were
considerably nastier than today's.

Bob

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 16:55:57 -0600, "Bob Patton"
rwpmailatcharterdotnet wrote:

"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
news:Ykdhd.3214$GN4.1950@okepread02...
//snip//
BTW, American politics were never more nasty than in the years
immediately following the Revolution. It isn't even close. That was
NASTY!

What mystifies me is that now, with our far larger population, we can't
find political leaders with nearly as much character, intelligence,
vision, and bravery.

imo, the siren song of capitalism is simply too powerful...

jeff


Harry Truman might fit the bill. And I think a pretty good argument could be
made for Lyndon Johnson. He got involved in the southeast Asia war, but he
inherited that and, considering the temper of the times, had little
alternative but to get farther into it instead of getting out.

But, as somebody said, it's been a long time between drinks.

Another good read is John Adams by David McCullough. During the 19th
century, and especially in the first half, presidential campaigns were
considerably nastier than today's.

Bob


We have a different view of Johnson so he wouldn't make my list.

Jeff, alternate view, the primary system weeds out the ones with real
talent.

Peter

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