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Old November 2nd, 2004, 02:12 AM
Bob Patton
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"Larry L" wrote in message
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//snip//
So, I'm thinking of getting a minimal amount of in-between "car camping"
gear so that I can leave the trailer and go stay in the Slough Creek
campground ( example) for a night or two and thus make the FDR ( fishing
to driving ratio ) reasonable. I have plenty of storage room in my
truck, but I'd like suggestions on what I need to consider getting and
taking to be reasonably comfortable in tent camping mode.


I have an Outdoor Research bivy sack that I use when backpacking, and it's
fine but it ain't the most comfortable thing since the Ritz Carlton. I also
use a 3/4 length Thermarest pad with the bivy sack. Together they're really
light and allow me to carry more flyfishing gear and less camping gear.

But if you can avoid backpacking and only haul the stuff from your car to
the site, like I did at the anti-clave a couple of weeks ago, here's what
I'd take:

1. Get a two-person tent. I have a Kelty (forget the item name) that cost
about $75 and it's just right for one person. It has a little vestibule
where you can keep your boots without having to bring them into the tent
proper, and that's important.

2. beer

3. a THICK foam pad to put on top of the thermarest

3. beer

4. a backpacking stove. I have a Coleman "Peak 1" butane/propane backpack
stove that puts out 10,000 BTUs, but it has to be lit with a match. If you
can get one with a piezo lighter that doesn't require matches that'd be much
better. I've tried stoves that use "white gas" or similar, and this stove
is much better. No more spilt fuel and having to pump up the pressure. I
used to have a Primus backpacking stove that I liked better than the
Coleman, but it disappeared at Snowbird under very mysterious circumstances.

5. beer

6. I have a Primus backpacking lamp that runs off the same fuel as the
stove. Puts out plenty of light for one person to read by.

7. Wild Turkey

8. pots etc., in a net bag. The net bag can be used to put the beer in, then
put in the creek to cool it.

The tent, together with the thermarest and the foam pad, are surprisingly
comfortable. Also, I've found that the dehydrated meals sold in outdoor
stores can be pretty good. A bit high in salt, but can really hit the spot
after a long day. Most of them say they serve two, which makes an ample meal
for one.

Bob



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Old November 2nd, 2004, 01:37 PM
Scott Seidman
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"Bob Patton" rwpmailatcharterdotnet wrote in
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"Larry L" wrote in message
...
//snip//
So, I'm thinking of getting a minimal amount of in-between "car
camping" gear so that I can leave the trailer and go stay in the
Slough Creek campground ( example) for a night or two and thus make
the FDR ( fishing to driving ratio ) reasonable. I have plenty of
storage room in my truck, but I'd like suggestions on what I need to
consider getting and taking to be reasonably comfortable in tent
camping mode.


snip

1. Get a two-person tent. I have a Kelty (forget the item name) that
cost about $75 and it's just right for one person. It has a little
vestibule where you can keep your boots without having to bring them
into the tent proper, and that's important.


It's tremendously important that the tent have no seams across the
bottom, and most of the other seams, especially the fly, should be taped
out of the box, then seam-sealed before you take it out. A ground cloth
for under the tent will substantially help in wet weather, and increase
the life of your tent. It should be a hair smaller than the footprint of
your tent-- if too big, it will wick water right in. You can use a
plastic tarp cut to size. A whisk broom and dustpan will get rid of mud
you track inside.


2. beer


Just avoid barley wine.


3. a THICK foam pad to put on top of the thermarest

3. beer

4. a backpacking stove. I have a Coleman "Peak 1" butane/propane
backpack stove that puts out 10,000 BTUs, but it has to be lit with a
match. If you can get one with a piezo lighter that doesn't require
matches that'd be much better. I've tried stoves that use "white gas"
or similar, and this stove is much better. No more spilt fuel and
having to pump up the pressure. I used to have a Primus backpacking
stove that I liked better than the Coleman, but it disappeared at
Snowbird under very mysterious circumstances.

5. beer

6. I have a Primus backpacking lamp that runs off the same fuel as the
stove. Puts out plenty of light for one person to read by.


I'd lose the backpacking gear for car camping, and go with a two-burner
Coleman stove and a Coleman lantern. White gas is easier to pack, but
harder to store and can make your stuff smell. I find propane far easier
to manage, particularly out of a car. Whichever you pick, stove and
lantern fuel should match. Don't forget PLENTY of extra mantles for the
lantern, and duct tape them to the case so you always know where they
are.


7. Wild Turkey


Well, Maker's Mark.


8. pots etc., in a net bag. The net bag can be used to put the beer
in, then put in the creek to cool it.


Pick up a good 5-day cooler.


The tent, together with the thermarest and the foam pad, are
surprisingly comfortable. Also, I've found that the dehydrated meals
sold in outdoor stores can be pretty good. A bit high in salt, but can
really hit the spot after a long day. Most of them say they serve two,
which makes an ample meal for one.

Bob




One last luxury-- a fleece sleeping bag is inexpensive, and when used as
a liner for a real bag, will ward off the chill on a three dog night.

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Old November 4th, 2004, 07:22 PM
Larry L
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"Bob Patton" rwpmailatcharterdotnet wrote


snipped list


I don't drink so I think I can really keep the weight and bulk down compared
to your list G


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Old November 2nd, 2004, 01:37 PM
Scott Seidman
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"Bob Patton" rwpmailatcharterdotnet wrote in
:

"Larry L" wrote in message
...
//snip//
So, I'm thinking of getting a minimal amount of in-between "car
camping" gear so that I can leave the trailer and go stay in the
Slough Creek campground ( example) for a night or two and thus make
the FDR ( fishing to driving ratio ) reasonable. I have plenty of
storage room in my truck, but I'd like suggestions on what I need to
consider getting and taking to be reasonably comfortable in tent
camping mode.


snip

1. Get a two-person tent. I have a Kelty (forget the item name) that
cost about $75 and it's just right for one person. It has a little
vestibule where you can keep your boots without having to bring them
into the tent proper, and that's important.


It's tremendously important that the tent have no seams across the
bottom, and most of the other seams, especially the fly, should be taped
out of the box, then seam-sealed before you take it out. A ground cloth
for under the tent will substantially help in wet weather, and increase
the life of your tent. It should be a hair smaller than the footprint of
your tent-- if too big, it will wick water right in. You can use a
plastic tarp cut to size. A whisk broom and dustpan will get rid of mud
you track inside.


2. beer


Just avoid barley wine.


3. a THICK foam pad to put on top of the thermarest

3. beer

4. a backpacking stove. I have a Coleman "Peak 1" butane/propane
backpack stove that puts out 10,000 BTUs, but it has to be lit with a
match. If you can get one with a piezo lighter that doesn't require
matches that'd be much better. I've tried stoves that use "white gas"
or similar, and this stove is much better. No more spilt fuel and
having to pump up the pressure. I used to have a Primus backpacking
stove that I liked better than the Coleman, but it disappeared at
Snowbird under very mysterious circumstances.

5. beer

6. I have a Primus backpacking lamp that runs off the same fuel as the
stove. Puts out plenty of light for one person to read by.


I'd lose the backpacking gear for car camping, and go with a two-burner
Coleman stove and a Coleman lantern. White gas is easier to pack, but
harder to store and can make your stuff smell. I find propane far easier
to manage, particularly out of a car. Whichever you pick, stove and
lantern fuel should match. Don't forget PLENTY of extra mantles for the
lantern, and duct tape them to the case so you always know where they
are.


7. Wild Turkey


Well, Maker's Mark.


8. pots etc., in a net bag. The net bag can be used to put the beer
in, then put in the creek to cool it.


Pick up a good 5-day cooler.


The tent, together with the thermarest and the foam pad, are
surprisingly comfortable. Also, I've found that the dehydrated meals
sold in outdoor stores can be pretty good. A bit high in salt, but can
really hit the spot after a long day. Most of them say they serve two,
which makes an ample meal for one.

Bob




One last luxury-- a fleece sleeping bag is inexpensive, and when used as
a liner for a real bag, will ward off the chill on a three dog night.

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Old November 4th, 2004, 07:22 PM
Larry L
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"Bob Patton" rwpmailatcharterdotnet wrote


snipped list


I don't drink so I think I can really keep the weight and bulk down compared
to your list G


 




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