Its looking grim

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 13:57:09 -0700, philski
wrote:

I agree with your view Ken. I think if the Dems ever want to get ahead
in the race for the White House, they need to dump the Gay Agenda. They
have more than they can deal with with "right to life". I don't think
there are enough gay votes (just my opinion) to sway a national vote one
way or the other. The dems need to " Steer Clear of the Queers" (an old
Idaho axiom)


Dammit, I swore I wasn't gonna do this. But my dander's up again.

Eleven states just voted to deny entry into the institution of
marriage to US Citizens based solely on their sexual orientation, and
YOU think GAYS have an "agenda"?

What would that be, exactly? Are they guilty of trying to "secure the
blessings of liberty to themselves..."? Damn that constitution.

As a devout and practicing heterosexual, I can't begin to understand
why it's any of my business whatsoever - or the business of the
government - what two or more consenting adults do in the privacy of
their own homes and relationships.

Heterosexuals have managed to make a complete mockery and debacle of
the institution of marriage: I've never seen it demonstrated that
homosexuals could possibly do worse.

But if two men or women love each other and want to get married and
share in the legal benefits, pitfalls, and sacrifice of "marital
bliss", and can find a willing church or justice of the peace, I say
"God Bless 'Em" and "God Help 'Em".

Chuck

Chuck Wise wrote:

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 13:57:09 -0700, philski
wrote:


I agree with your view Ken. I think if the Dems ever want to get ahead
in the race for the White House, they need to dump the Gay Agenda. They
have more than they can deal with with "right to life". I don't think
there are enough gay votes (just my opinion) to sway a national vote one
way or the other. The dems need to " Steer Clear of the Queers" (an old
Idaho axiom)



Dammit, I swore I wasn't gonna do this. But my dander's up again.

Eleven states just voted to deny entry into the institution of
marriage to US Citizens based solely on their sexual orientation, and
YOU think GAYS have an "agenda"?

What would that be, exactly? Are they guilty of trying to "secure the
blessings of liberty to themselves..."? Damn that constitution.

As a devout and practicing heterosexual, I can't begin to understand
why it's any of my business whatsoever - or the business of the
government - what two or more consenting adults do in the privacy of
their own homes and relationships.

Heterosexuals have managed to make a complete mockery and debacle of
the institution of marriage: I've never seen it demonstrated that
homosexuals could possibly do worse.

But if two men or women love each other and want to get married and
share in the legal benefits, pitfalls, and sacrifice of "marital
bliss", and can find a willing church or justice of the peace, I say
"God Bless 'Em" and "God Help 'Em".

Chuck
Chuck,
I don't disagree with what you say. I just think that it costs the
Democrats votes each and every time there is a national election. I too
don't care if they are married, church leaders or anything else for that
matter. I grew up with a brother that was gay. I think he was destined
to be gay in his life. It wasn't a choice in his part. Dave died of AIDS
in San Francisco in 1983. I have first-hand knowledge of the gay
community. I visited my brother and his lover in the city many times. We
grew up together and I do know the trials and troubles he went through.
He was quite intelligent - he was a Nation Merit Scholarship winner as
well as member of the US Navy. He was a radioman on swift boats in Viet
Nam. But as I said, if the Dems want to get more of the votes that went
for "morality and values" they will, in my opinion, soften the rhetoric
on gay marriage. Yes, john kerry said he did not support gay marriage -
but it did chase some moderates to the GOP side of the aisle during
yesterday's vote.

Gays do have every right you and I enjoy. The problems associated with
being gay are real. I would not deny any person their just rights....

Philski

philski wrote:

Gays do have every right you and I enjoy. The problems associated with
being gay are real. I would not deny any person their just rights....

I'm warning you, philski, we we permit gay marriage they will book up
all the banquet halls. It will be chaos.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:55:42 -0700, rw
wrote:

philski wrote:

Gays do have every right you and I enjoy. The problems associated with
being gay are real. I would not deny any person their just rights....

I'm warning you, philski, we we permit gay marriage they will book up
all the banquet halls. It will be chaos.


But I bet they won't do the "Chicken Dance", reason enough to ban all
straight marriages IMHO.


g.c.


An example of hetero
perversion:http://www.angelfire.com/tx3/txbabycat/

"rw" wrote in message
m...
philski wrote:

Gays do have every right you and I enjoy. The problems associated with being gay
are real. I would not deny any person their just rights....

I'm warning you, philski, we we permit gay marriage they will book up all the
banquet halls. It will be chaos.

I say give'em the banquet halls, if they agree to stay off the trout streams.

Mark --****, I'll agree to never go to another church, if all you godly types agree
to stay of the trout streams!--

rw wrote:
philski wrote:


Gays do have every right you and I enjoy. The problems associated with
being gay are real. I would not deny any person their just rights....


I'm warning you, philski, we we permit gay marriage they will book up
all the banquet halls. It will be chaos.

And they will do.....The Hokey Pokey!

Put yer right foot in, Put yer right foot out.....

Philski

"philski" wrote in message
...
rw wrote:
philski wrote:


Gays do have every right you and I enjoy. The problems associated with
being gay are real. I would not deny any person their just rights....


I'm warning you, philski, we we permit gay marriage they will book up all
the banquet halls. It will be chaos.

And they will do.....The Hokey Pokey!

Put yer right foot in, Put yer right foot out.....


its 'Wing', not foot.

--riverman

"philski" wrote in message
...
rw wrote:
philski wrote:


Gays do have every right you and I enjoy. The problems associated with
being gay are real. I would not deny any person their just rights....


I'm warning you, philski, we we permit gay marriage they will book up all
the banquet halls. It will be chaos.

And they will do.....The Hokey Pokey!

Put yer right foot in, Put yer right foot out.....


its 'Wing', not foot.

--riverman

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:55:42 -0700, rw
wrote:

philski wrote:

Gays do have every right you and I enjoy. The problems associated with
being gay are real. I would not deny any person their just rights....

I'm warning you, philski, we we permit gay marriage they will book up
all the banquet halls. It will be chaos.


But I bet they won't do the "Chicken Dance", reason enough to ban all
straight marriages IMHO.


g.c.


An example of hetero
perversion:http://www.angelfire.com/tx3/txbabycat/

"rw" wrote in message
m...
philski wrote:

Gays do have every right you and I enjoy. The problems associated with being gay
are real. I would not deny any person their just rights....

I'm warning you, philski, we we permit gay marriage they will book up all the
banquet halls. It will be chaos.

I say give'em the banquet halls, if they agree to stay off the trout streams.

Mark --****, I'll agree to never go to another church, if all you godly types agree
to stay of the trout streams!--