Its looking grim

Wolfgang wrote:
"philski" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:


"philski" wrote in message
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...my wife takes 15 necessary meds - costing us in excess of
300.00 w/ copay.


Hell, that ain't so bad. I know people who pay more than that

EVERY

YEAR!



I want the
government out of my life.


So, you've notified your local fire department that they are

never,

under ANY circumstances, to enter onto your property?



Just My .02 cents worth.


Where shall we send the change?

Wolfgang



I was thinking primarily along the lines of the Patriot Act - along

with

Ashcroft (a worthless appointee).

I work at the Boise Airport for the government (Homeland Security)

as an

engineer - I don't want to bite the hand that feeds me....


Sounds like you do. But you're afraid. Nevertheless, you did. And
I'll bet a shiny new nickel that the Boise Fire Department is a
governmental agency. And hey, how about that Socialist Security, huh?

Wolfgang
still holding that change.


Well, I am not afraid as you put it. I like my freedoms. And infringing
on my freedoms is not something I specifically cherish. Considering my
statement that I want the government removed from my life - you and I
both know that that is an impossibility in today's society. I made the
statement not to be taken literally as you did. I worked for the gov for
years. I do know the difference. Its just that I want them at arm's
length. I do pay taxes for certain services and those, although are
government entities, do not, in my opinion, have to have their every
finger on my pulse so-to-speak. You surely get my drift. I think the
Patriot Act is too far reaching. There are already laws on the books for
most of the criminal and/or terrorist activities in the U.S. I don't
share the abundance of paranoia that I see in the GOP.

As far as Social Security is concerned, I think I could have done a lot
better had I been able to invest those same monies in simple savings
accounts. But I have to pay into it whether I like it or not. Each
paycheck I receive has a noted deduction for the upkeep of that
entitlement. It used to have it's own fund and account. But it was
raided by Congress and put into the General Fund. So, I will collect "my
share" someday, but until then, I guess I'll have to put up with the tax
that it is.

BTW - do you think GW will be giving us another tax refund - I could use
another 600.00 dollar check just before Christmas!

Philski

"philski" wrote in message
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Well, I am not afraid as you put it.

Well, I think you're a liar.

I like my freedoms.

No, duh.

And infringing on my freedoms is not something I specifically cherish.

In that case, one might suggest that you refrain.

Considering my statement that I want the government removed from my life -
you and I both know that that is an impossibility in today's society.

Au contraire, mon frere, you can always eat a bullet.

I made the statement not to be taken literally as you did.

One might suggest that you make statements as you mean them to be taken.

I worked for the gov for years.

My hero.......sigh.

I do know the difference.

Between what and which?

Its just that I want them at arm's length.

Just how far did you reach for that paycheck?

I do pay taxes for certain services

Well now, THERE'S an interesting concept. I vote we ALL give that a try.
C'mon gang, whattya say?

and those, although are government entities, do not, in my opinion, have
to have their every finger on my pulse so-to-speak. You surely get my
drift.

Actually, no, let's try it again......in English this time.....o.k.?

I think the Patriot Act is too far reaching. There are already laws on the
books for most of the criminal and/or terrorist activities in the U.S. I
don't share the abundance of paranoia that I see in the GOP.

See, this is the part I hate.......just when you think you've got the
species pegged, along comes this little flash of human rationality.......and
ya gotta start all over again. O.k., I'm with ya.......go on.

As far as Social Security is concerned, I think I could have done a lot
better had I been able to invest those same monies in simple savings
accounts.

And, thus, you refuse to accept such ill-gotten gains, right? And in the
meantime, crafty devil that you are, you actually DID put an equal amount
into a simple savings account and thus you are able to retire early and live
a life of liesure, right?

But I have to pay into it whether I like it or not.

That's a fact, Jack!

Each paycheck I receive has a noted deduction for the upkeep of that
entitlement.

Another fact......and one that is a very ill kept secret

It used to have it's own fund and account. But it was raided by Congress
and put into the General Fund. So, I will collect "my share" someday, but
until then, I guess I'll have to put up with the tax that it is.

This is beginning to sound suspiciously like life as we know it. How
horrible, how tragic, that YOU of all people should have to live it while
the rest of us loll about in a soporific stupor, living off
of.....um......well, whatever it is.

BTW - do you think GW will be giving us another tax refund - I could use
another 600.00 dollar check just before Christmas!

Hell yes! Mortgage your grandchildren.......I don't give a ****......I
don't have any.

So, bottom line is that like so many others, you've been sucking on the
taxpayers tit for virtually all of your adult life (at least) and you don't
like government intruding on your proud, honorable, and self-sufficient
life...........that about it?

Wolfgang
who is giving serious consideration to turning radical muslim.......or any
other rational alternative that presents itself.

who is giving serious consideration to turning radical muslim.......or any
other rational alternative that presents itself.


I await your transformation.....

Philski

"philski" wrote in message
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who is giving serious consideration to turning radical muslim.......or
any other rational alternative that presents itself.
I await your transformation.....

Philski

Hold your breath.

Wolfgang

Wolfgang wr

Wolfgang
who is giving serious consideration to turning radical muslim.......or any
other rational alternative that presents itself.



Ya gotta think about that knife, ya know. May not be a problem, but YMMV. *That's*
part of your ID card.

--
Tom

n4tab at earthlink dot net

"a-happy-up-yours" wrote in
message link.net...
Wolfgang wr

Wolfgang
who is giving serious consideration to turning radical muslim.......or
any other rational alternative that presents itself.

Ya gotta think about that knife, ya know. May not be a problem, but YMMV.
*That's* part of your ID card.

Well, I'm pretty sure that you already do, but when they come to get me, the
rest will all know where they live, ainna?

Wolfgang
who knows that what can't happen here already has.

"a-happy-up-yours" wrote in
message link.net...
Wolfgang wr

Wolfgang
who is giving serious consideration to turning radical muslim.......or
any other rational alternative that presents itself.

Ya gotta think about that knife, ya know. May not be a problem, but YMMV.
*That's* part of your ID card.

Well, I'm pretty sure that you already do, but when they come to get me, the
rest will all know where they live, ainna?

Wolfgang
who knows that what can't happen here already has.

who is giving serious consideration to turning radical muslim.......or any
other rational alternative that presents itself.


I await your transformation.....

Philski

Wolfgang wr

Wolfgang
who is giving serious consideration to turning radical muslim.......or any
other rational alternative that presents itself.



Ya gotta think about that knife, ya know. May not be a problem, but YMMV. *That's*
part of your ID card.

--
Tom

n4tab at earthlink dot net

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:24:19 -0700, philski
wrote:


As far as Social Security is concerned, I think I could have done a lot
better had I been able to invest those same monies in simple savings
accounts. But I have to pay into it whether I like it or not. Each
paycheck I receive has a noted deduction for the upkeep of that
entitlement. It used to have it's own fund and account. But it was
raided by Congress and put into the General Fund. So, I will collect "my
share" someday, but until then, I guess I'll have to put up with the tax
that it is.


I know this is old, but: Social Security is a welfare program
that Roosevelt dressed up as an "insurance program" to
make it palatable to both payers and payees. And it was not
"raided by Congress," it was Nixon that first began to comingle
funds and every president since has followed suit.