Camping stuff

"rw" wrote in message
m...
You can buy an adapter (approx. $25) that lets you hook an ordinary
propane tank to your two-burner Coleman stove. That stove isn't
exactly backpacking equipment. There's no excuse to throwing away
those little green tanks.

Wolfgang wrote:
I'm not sure whether you're suggesting that a propane burner can be
adapted to run off the big tanks, which is a good idea both
economically and ecologically, or that the gasoline burner can be
converted.

Coleman makes adapters (high pressure hoses with big and small ends) for
this and also has a three outlet 'tree' so you can run two stoves and a
lantern off of a bulk tank. The one I used to have was obsoleted when they
changed the connector on the bulk tanks a couple of years ago. I could
screw a propane lantern on top of the tree, and run my stove and portable
grill at the same time.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps

"Bob Patton" rwpmailatcharterdotnet wrote in
:

"Larry L" wrote in message
...
//snip//
So, I'm thinking of getting a minimal amount of in-between "car
camping" gear so that I can leave the trailer and go stay in the
Slough Creek campground ( example) for a night or two and thus make
the FDR ( fishing to driving ratio ) reasonable. I have plenty of
storage room in my truck, but I'd like suggestions on what I need to
consider getting and taking to be reasonably comfortable in tent
camping mode.


snip

1. Get a two-person tent. I have a Kelty (forget the item name) that
cost about $75 and it's just right for one person. It has a little
vestibule where you can keep your boots without having to bring them
into the tent proper, and that's important.

It's tremendously important that the tent have no seams across the
bottom, and most of the other seams, especially the fly, should be taped
out of the box, then seam-sealed before you take it out. A ground cloth
for under the tent will substantially help in wet weather, and increase
the life of your tent. It should be a hair smaller than the footprint of
your tent-- if too big, it will wick water right in. You can use a
plastic tarp cut to size. A whisk broom and dustpan will get rid of mud
you track inside.


2. beer

Just avoid barley wine.


3. a THICK foam pad to put on top of the thermarest

3. beer

4. a backpacking stove. I have a Coleman "Peak 1" butane/propane
backpack stove that puts out 10,000 BTUs, but it has to be lit with a
match. If you can get one with a piezo lighter that doesn't require
matches that'd be much better. I've tried stoves that use "white gas"
or similar, and this stove is much better. No more spilt fuel and
having to pump up the pressure. I used to have a Primus backpacking
stove that I liked better than the Coleman, but it disappeared at
Snowbird under very mysterious circumstances.

5. beer

6. I have a Primus backpacking lamp that runs off the same fuel as the
stove. Puts out plenty of light for one person to read by.

I'd lose the backpacking gear for car camping, and go with a two-burner
Coleman stove and a Coleman lantern. White gas is easier to pack, but
harder to store and can make your stuff smell. I find propane far easier
to manage, particularly out of a car. Whichever you pick, stove and
lantern fuel should match. Don't forget PLENTY of extra mantles for the
lantern, and duct tape them to the case so you always know where they
are.


7. Wild Turkey

Well, Maker's Mark.


8. pots etc., in a net bag. The net bag can be used to put the beer
in, then put in the creek to cool it.

Pick up a good 5-day cooler.


The tent, together with the thermarest and the foam pad, are
surprisingly comfortable. Also, I've found that the dehydrated meals
sold in outdoor stores can be pretty good. A bit high in salt, but can
really hit the spot after a long day. Most of them say they serve two,
which makes an ample meal for one.

Bob




One last luxury-- a fleece sleeping bag is inexpensive, and when used as
a liner for a real bag, will ward off the chill on a three dog night.

"Bob Patton" rwpmailatcharterdotnet wrote in
:

"Larry L" wrote in message
...
//snip//
So, I'm thinking of getting a minimal amount of in-between "car
camping" gear so that I can leave the trailer and go stay in the
Slough Creek campground ( example) for a night or two and thus make
the FDR ( fishing to driving ratio ) reasonable. I have plenty of
storage room in my truck, but I'd like suggestions on what I need to
consider getting and taking to be reasonably comfortable in tent
camping mode.


snip

1. Get a two-person tent. I have a Kelty (forget the item name) that
cost about $75 and it's just right for one person. It has a little
vestibule where you can keep your boots without having to bring them
into the tent proper, and that's important.

It's tremendously important that the tent have no seams across the
bottom, and most of the other seams, especially the fly, should be taped
out of the box, then seam-sealed before you take it out. A ground cloth
for under the tent will substantially help in wet weather, and increase
the life of your tent. It should be a hair smaller than the footprint of
your tent-- if too big, it will wick water right in. You can use a
plastic tarp cut to size. A whisk broom and dustpan will get rid of mud
you track inside.


2. beer

Just avoid barley wine.


3. a THICK foam pad to put on top of the thermarest

3. beer

4. a backpacking stove. I have a Coleman "Peak 1" butane/propane
backpack stove that puts out 10,000 BTUs, but it has to be lit with a
match. If you can get one with a piezo lighter that doesn't require
matches that'd be much better. I've tried stoves that use "white gas"
or similar, and this stove is much better. No more spilt fuel and
having to pump up the pressure. I used to have a Primus backpacking
stove that I liked better than the Coleman, but it disappeared at
Snowbird under very mysterious circumstances.

5. beer

6. I have a Primus backpacking lamp that runs off the same fuel as the
stove. Puts out plenty of light for one person to read by.

I'd lose the backpacking gear for car camping, and go with a two-burner
Coleman stove and a Coleman lantern. White gas is easier to pack, but
harder to store and can make your stuff smell. I find propane far easier
to manage, particularly out of a car. Whichever you pick, stove and
lantern fuel should match. Don't forget PLENTY of extra mantles for the
lantern, and duct tape them to the case so you always know where they
are.


7. Wild Turkey

Well, Maker's Mark.


8. pots etc., in a net bag. The net bag can be used to put the beer
in, then put in the creek to cool it.

Pick up a good 5-day cooler.


The tent, together with the thermarest and the foam pad, are
surprisingly comfortable. Also, I've found that the dehydrated meals
sold in outdoor stores can be pretty good. A bit high in salt, but can
really hit the spot after a long day. Most of them say they serve two,
which makes an ample meal for one.

Bob




One last luxury-- a fleece sleeping bag is inexpensive, and when used as
a liner for a real bag, will ward off the chill on a three dog night.

For car camping:

1. Coleman gas stove and lantern.

2. Big fat air mattress and a float tube pump

3. Four man tent for one guy

4. Slumberjack Big Timber sleeping bag!

I may not have Sage and Abel, but Coleman and Slumberjack, especially
Slumberjack, have kept me comfortable and warm.

bruce h

On 11/1/04 7:24 PM, in article
, "Larry L"
wrote:

Well, my camping has been in two, very different styles. (1)When I was
young ...backpacking and mountaineering, bivy bags, MSR stoves, etc (2) For
my business and in my current not young state .. travel trailer, TV,
microwave, generator, shower, etc

But, each of the last few summers I've wanted to go visit a stream(s) where
taking the trailer was too big a pain, or no place to park it exists. And
my bivy bag days are long gone ... comfort is priority #1 for this old
grump.

So, I'm thinking of getting a minimal amount of in-between "car camping"
gear so that I can leave the trailer and go stay in the Slough Creek
campground ( example) for a night or two and thus make the FDR ( fishing to
driving ratio ) reasonable. I have plenty of storage room in my truck, but
I'd like suggestions on what I need to consider getting and taking to be
reasonably comfortable in tent camping mode.

Fellow roffians ( ok I'm just a fringe roffian, but you get the idea ) how
about a car/tent camping check list? Be specific if a particular brand/
type of item is preferred

I won't produce a full check list, but having "descended" to car camping
from a youth of backpacking, and, being still, relatively speaking, young
and full of beans, most of my car camping gear approximates backpacking
gear, with a few additions to make life more comfy in camp.

Like Wolfgang, I like gas powered two burner Coleman stoves. I've got the
one my parents bought back in the late 50's. That said, I don't use it all
that often. Most of my camping is either solo or with my two children, and
the Coleman just seems like overkill. That, and, as Wolfgang will attest, I
just *like* firing up my trusty Svea. Some might call it tempting fate :-)
Single burner (occasionally combined with cooking over the fire) is enough
for my campground culinary needs. For coffee, again since I seldom camp
with other grown ups, I carry an aluminum stovetop espresso maker.

Tent is a three man Eureka Timberline, a tent that is somewhat too heavy for
backpacking (got a North Face for that) but roomy for time in camp,
inexpensive, and keeps me dry for several days, even at Penns Creek in May.

I sleep in a down bag (splurged for a gorgeous and astoundingly light weight
bag from Feathered Friends) so I use a full length closed cell foam pad.

I too carry one of those fold out camp chairs that seem ubiquitous these
days, and would miss it if I didn't have it.

Throw in a handful of books, binoculars and libations, and that pretty well
rounds out my car camping gear.

Bill

On 11/1/04 7:24 PM, in article
, "Larry L"
wrote:

Well, my camping has been in two, very different styles. (1)When I was
young ...backpacking and mountaineering, bivy bags, MSR stoves, etc (2) For
my business and in my current not young state .. travel trailer, TV,
microwave, generator, shower, etc

But, each of the last few summers I've wanted to go visit a stream(s) where
taking the trailer was too big a pain, or no place to park it exists. And
my bivy bag days are long gone ... comfort is priority #1 for this old
grump.

So, I'm thinking of getting a minimal amount of in-between "car camping"
gear so that I can leave the trailer and go stay in the Slough Creek
campground ( example) for a night or two and thus make the FDR ( fishing to
driving ratio ) reasonable. I have plenty of storage room in my truck, but
I'd like suggestions on what I need to consider getting and taking to be
reasonably comfortable in tent camping mode.

Fellow roffians ( ok I'm just a fringe roffian, but you get the idea ) how
about a car/tent camping check list? Be specific if a particular brand/
type of item is preferred

I won't produce a full check list, but having "descended" to car camping
from a youth of backpacking, and, being still, relatively speaking, young
and full of beans, most of my car camping gear approximates backpacking
gear, with a few additions to make life more comfy in camp.

Like Wolfgang, I like gas powered two burner Coleman stoves. I've got the
one my parents bought back in the late 50's. That said, I don't use it all
that often. Most of my camping is either solo or with my two children, and
the Coleman just seems like overkill. That, and, as Wolfgang will attest, I
just *like* firing up my trusty Svea. Some might call it tempting fate :-)
Single burner (occasionally combined with cooking over the fire) is enough
for my campground culinary needs. For coffee, again since I seldom camp
with other grown ups, I carry an aluminum stovetop espresso maker.

Tent is a three man Eureka Timberline, a tent that is somewhat too heavy for
backpacking (got a North Face for that) but roomy for time in camp,
inexpensive, and keeps me dry for several days, even at Penns Creek in May.

I sleep in a down bag (splurged for a gorgeous and astoundingly light weight
bag from Feathered Friends) so I use a full length closed cell foam pad.

I too carry one of those fold out camp chairs that seem ubiquitous these
days, and would miss it if I didn't have it.

Throw in a handful of books, binoculars and libations, and that pretty well
rounds out my car camping gear.

Bill

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 00:24:05 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

Fellow roffians ( ok I'm just a fringe roffian, but you get the idea ) how
about a car/tent camping check list? Be specific if a particular brand/
type of item is preferred

Instead of a cooler I use an ARB (made by Engel) fridge. It runs off 12v or
120v and, as long as you drive your car every day or so to charge the battery,
will keep things cold indefinitely without having to get ice. They can be used
as either a fridge or a freezer, but I don't know how long it would run
between battery chargers when set to freeze.
--
Charlie...
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/c/cchoc/

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 00:24:05 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

Fellow roffians ( ok I'm just a fringe roffian, but you get the idea ) how
about a car/tent camping check list? Be specific if a particular brand/
type of item is preferred

Instead of a cooler I use an ARB (made by Engel) fridge. It runs off 12v or
120v and, as long as you drive your car every day or so to charge the battery,
will keep things cold indefinitely without having to get ice. They can be used
as either a fridge or a freezer, but I don't know how long it would run
between battery chargers when set to freeze.
--
Charlie...
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/c/cchoc/

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 00:24:05 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

Fellow roffians ( ok I'm just a fringe roffian, but you get the idea ) how
about a car/tent camping check list? Be specific if a particular brand/
type of item is preferred

Instead of a cooler I use an ARB (made by Engel) fridge. It runs off 12v or
120v and, as long as you drive your car every day or so to charge the battery,
will keep things cold indefinitely without having to get ice. They can be used
as either a fridge or a freezer, but I don't know how long it would run
between battery chargers when set to freeze.
--
Charlie...
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/c/cchoc/

"William Claspy" wrote in message
...
On 11/1/04 7:24 PM, in article
...as Wolfgang will attest, I
just *like* firing up my trusty Svea.

To be sure. And as anyone but an abject fool will attest, ANY stove
upon which somebody else takes the time to brew coffee for you is a
good one.

I sleep in a down bag (splurged for a gorgeous and astoundingly
light weight
bag from Feathered Friends) so I use a full length closed cell foam
pad.

I haven't looked closely for some years, but I suspect down is still
the best insulator available. Unfortunately, it is next to worthless
when it gets wet.....or even damp. Some of us, including your humble
narrator, transpire a lot of moisture; I have never managed to get
through a night in a down bag (and I used a good North Face model for
about 15 years) without the insulation getting moist and matted. In
short, I virtually always froze in a down bag. Never again. To each
his or her own.

Wolfgang