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![]() "Vincent." wrote in message SNIP By now, with our different explications I know how to translate the power but it still missing me comparisons for the action... :-s Lest's try to find some... First my Diaflash 7' 1/3 1OZ: it is perfect for 1/2OZ sofbaits, the rod bent a bit, I always fill the elastisity of the rod during my animation... With a stickbait like the biggest sammy or gunnish, it is perfect! The lure go far away and the filling during the animation is very good, again I fill the elasticity of the rod during the "walking the dog". But with a "heavy" soft bait around 1OZ for... hum... how to say?... You know when you make the lure turn around the scion and cast juste up to the water... more or less like a pitching... in this case the rod bent too much...or with a big Bfreeze walking the dog under the water, I fill that the rod is a bit "just"... :-o I just want an action a bit faster... with more or less the same power. Second my Garbolino 6' 1/2 1OZ: It is very straight! I mean a XXfast action... :-) It never bent during the animation of a 1/2OZ bait, I fill anything, but is perfect for a gig 1OZ softbait even to cast "around" the scion. Against: It is too staight for "walking the dog"... I don't fill the lure and it is a pain to be synchronized... It is too fast... too straight... So my filling puching me to buy a Shimano Compre 7' MH but does it's action be between my too rods? And where??? for tackle warehouse it is a MH Xfast and only this... :-s http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/descp...MANO-SCCR.html BassPro have a MH 1/8-1-1/4 OZ: http://www.basspro-shops.com/servlet...arget=bro wse And for Cabelas the MH is a 3/8-1 OZ... :-s http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...Id=0023073&cat alogCode=IE&parentId=cat20372&parentType=index&rid =&cmCat=MainCatcat20166&_D ARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fcatalog%2Fitem-link.jhtml.2_A&_DAV=http%3A%2 F%2Fa1460.g.akamai.net%2Ff%2F1460%2F1339%2F6h%2Fww w.cabelas.com%2Fcabelas%2F en%2Fcontent%2FPod%2F02%2F30%2F73%2Fp023073ii01.jp g&hasJS=true Not easy I know... ;-) Vincent. In describing actions of rods, it goes like this. Extra Fast has the most backbone in a rod, but the least "tip action." With rods like this, probably just the last 15% of the rod will bend easily, with increasing stiffness as you go toward the butt of the rod. This rod will have the fastest hooksets. A Fast Action rod will have a lot of backbone, but more of the tip section will bend, probably in the neighborhood of 20-25% of the tip end of the rod. In a Moderate Action rod, almost half of the rod will bend fairly easily. This type of rod is preferred by many for fishing spinnerbaits and crankbaits. This rod will have a slower hookset, but that's preferred by many to avoid setting too soon. A Soft Action rod is preferred by many live bait anglers and salmon anglers when they want a rod that has lots of give, This type of rod makes it more difficult to snap off live bait when casting or tear hooks free from soft mouthed fish like salmon. What you need to figure out is what weight lures you're going to be throwing and your fishing style. You need a rod that is going to have the proper "give", in order to work the lure properly. If you're having difficulty working a lure, it could be the action, but it could be that you're using rods that are meant for heavier lures than you're using. If the lure is too light, it's not going to load up the rod for the desired flex in order to work the lure either. From what I can figure out, and looking at the rods listed, the Shimano Compre will do a good job for you, but all of your suggestions seem a bit on the heavy side for fishing soft plastic jerkbaits and topwater lures. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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Hi :-) ,
In describing actions of rods, it goes like this. Extra Fast has the most backbone in a rod, but the least "tip action." With rods like this, probably just the last 15% of the rod will bend easily, with increasing stiffness as you go toward the butt of the rod. This rod will have the fastest hooksets. Ok... just like my two Garbolino... A Fast Action rod will have a lot of backbone, but more of the tip section will bend, probably in the neighborhood of 20-25% of the tip end of the rod. The one y need to complete my rod storage... :-) In a Moderate Action rod, almost half of the rod will bend fairly easily. This type of rod is preferred by many for fishing spinnerbaits and crankbaits. This rod will have a slower hookset, but that's preferred by many to avoid setting too soon. Like my Diaflash... A Soft Action rod is preferred by many live bait anglers and salmon anglers when they want a rod that has lots of give, This type of rod makes it more difficult to snap off live bait when casting or tear hooks free from soft mouthed fish like salmon. Like my Beast Master... but I hate it... I don't fill anything with it... :-s What you need to figure out is what weight lures you're going to be throwing and your fishing style. You need a rod that is going to have the proper "give", in order to work the lure properly. If you're having difficulty working a lure, it could be the action, but it could be that you're using rods that are meant for heavier lures than you're using. If the lure is too light, it's not going to load up the rod for the desired flex in order to work the lure either. I know this... this is ones in others that makes fishing so expensive... :-) From what I can figure out, and looking at the rods listed, the Shimano Compre will do a good job for you, but all of your suggestions seem a bit on the heavy side for fishing soft plastic jerkbaits and topwater lures. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers Thanks... ;-) I hope to be abble to try some compre or others at the futur show arround here... if not, my last choise will be to order it in USA... but I don't like to buy a rod without having it in hand before... :-s Vincent. |
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Vincent, two reputable rodbuilders have tried to answer your questions here.
Sometimes you have to go with the flow and trust those around you. I will add this final comment. Trust your gut reaction, I bet you won't be wrong. -- Dave Norton "The Shadow" Millennium Rods "Vincent." wrote in message ... Hi :-) , In describing actions of rods, it goes like this. Extra Fast has the most backbone in a rod, but the least "tip action." With rods like this, probably just the last 15% of the rod will bend easily, with increasing stiffness as you go toward the butt of the rod. This rod will have the fastest hooksets. Ok... just like my two Garbolino... A Fast Action rod will have a lot of backbone, but more of the tip section will bend, probably in the neighborhood of 20-25% of the tip end of the rod. The one y need to complete my rod storage... :-) In a Moderate Action rod, almost half of the rod will bend fairly easily. This type of rod is preferred by many for fishing spinnerbaits and crankbaits. This rod will have a slower hookset, but that's preferred by many to avoid setting too soon. Like my Diaflash... A Soft Action rod is preferred by many live bait anglers and salmon anglers when they want a rod that has lots of give, This type of rod makes it more difficult to snap off live bait when casting or tear hooks free from soft mouthed fish like salmon. Like my Beast Master... but I hate it... I don't fill anything with it... :-s What you need to figure out is what weight lures you're going to be throwing and your fishing style. You need a rod that is going to have the proper "give", in order to work the lure properly. If you're having difficulty working a lure, it could be the action, but it could be that you're using rods that are meant for heavier lures than you're using. If the lure is too light, it's not going to load up the rod for the desired flex in order to work the lure either. I know this... this is ones in others that makes fishing so expensive... :-) From what I can figure out, and looking at the rods listed, the Shimano Compre will do a good job for you, but all of your suggestions seem a bit on the heavy side for fishing soft plastic jerkbaits and topwater lures. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers Thanks... ;-) I hope to be abble to try some compre or others at the futur show arround here... if not, my last choise will be to order it in USA... but I don't like to buy a rod without having it in hand before... :-s Vincent. |
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