RIP Mr. Jorgensen

On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 16:45:21 -0500, "Frank Reid" moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf
wrote:

Another master leaves us with the memories.

An excellent tyer who would give a novice a lesson and make the novice
feel like he taught the teacher.

Like many, I'm having a difficult time responding to this. Back in 1996 or
97, I went to the "Partridge of Redditch Fly Tying Days" in Redditch, UK.
Four world class fly tyers split us up into groups of 8 to 10 and we got 2
hours time learning from each of them as they tied. One of them was Poul.
After the first two sessions, lunch was served. I was able to sit across
from Poul and his loving bride for an hour and just talk about fishing, fly
tying and life. Poul was a quiet man, but when it came to fly fishing and
tying, his eyes twinkled. He could expound on a fish from last week or 40
years before, itemize by brand name what tying threads were the best, and
then he would pause and ask for your opinion. This teller of tales learned
long ago that "you can't listen if your mouth is moving."
I cherish that short time in a 16th century hotel in a life far away. I'm
sure guys like Lefty are, as we speak, calculating their "Poul Factor." If
that is ascertained by learning at the vise of a master, I can say mine is
1.

OK, I'm not trying to suck up to jeff miller, and the book in question
("Dressing Flies...") is not at hand, but his first book has picture of him at
his vise, and is it my imagination playing with my memory, or when he was
younger, did he look like jeff, or at least in that picture? Anyone with a copy
of "Dressing Flies..." at hand to offer an opinion?

TC,
R

On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 16:45:21 -0500, "Frank Reid" moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf
wrote:

Another master leaves us with the memories.

An excellent tyer who would give a novice a lesson and make the novice
feel like he taught the teacher.

Like many, I'm having a difficult time responding to this. Back in 1996 or
97, I went to the "Partridge of Redditch Fly Tying Days" in Redditch, UK.
Four world class fly tyers split us up into groups of 8 to 10 and we got 2
hours time learning from each of them as they tied. One of them was Poul.
After the first two sessions, lunch was served. I was able to sit across
from Poul and his loving bride for an hour and just talk about fishing, fly
tying and life. Poul was a quiet man, but when it came to fly fishing and
tying, his eyes twinkled. He could expound on a fish from last week or 40
years before, itemize by brand name what tying threads were the best, and
then he would pause and ask for your opinion. This teller of tales learned
long ago that "you can't listen if your mouth is moving."
I cherish that short time in a 16th century hotel in a life far away. I'm
sure guys like Lefty are, as we speak, calculating their "Poul Factor." If
that is ascertained by learning at the vise of a master, I can say mine is
1.

OK, I'm not trying to suck up to jeff miller, and the book in question
("Dressing Flies...") is not at hand, but his first book has picture of him at
his vise, and is it my imagination playing with my memory, or when he was
younger, did he look like jeff, or at least in that picture? Anyone with a copy
of "Dressing Flies..." at hand to offer an opinion?

TC,
R

Way back in the 1960s, Poul was on the program at a fly fishing
conference held here at Penn State, about the time I was just starting
to fly fish. His flies astonished me. Still do.

vince

Wayne Knight wrote:
http://flyfisherman.com/northeast/rrpouljorgensen/

Another master leaves us with the memories.

An excellent tyer who would give a novice a lesson and make the novice
feel like he taught the teacher.

I have a story about the time I met Poul Jurgensen at his home in
Roscoe, NY. I was given his address by the folks at the Fly Fishing
Museum and was asssured that he welcomed visitors. Now, I was very
excited by this. A basketball fan can not simply knock on Michael
Jordan's door, but here I was about to meet a big star in my realm.

Poul lived on a sort of cul-de-sac, sharing a driveway with another
house. His house was very small, but nicely kept up with a fancy sign
out front with his name on it. Now, in my very naive mind, A superstar
like that should have a big house. The impression i got was that the
small building was his fly tying shop and the big house was his
residence. Such was not the case. As it turns out, being a famed fly
fisherman is not a lucrative career. Many of the famous fishermen I
have met since lived very simply, but got to fish a lot and in many
fancy places. It is the tradeoff of a certain lifestyle for money.

So I had a lovely visit with the man. His walls were covered with
artifacts, many from other well-known fishermen. I bought a couple of
his flies and discussed fly tying, heard some of his stories. Wanting
to pay him a compliment, I said, "Well, this is a nice little shop you
have here."
Poul looked indignant and said, "This.....is.....my......HOME!!!"

Oops.

Pete Collin

Wayne Knight wrote:
http://flyfisherman.com/northeast/rrpouljorgensen/

Another master leaves us with the memories.

An excellent tyer who would give a novice a lesson and make the novice
feel like he taught the teacher.

I have a story about the time I met Poul Jurgensen at his home in
Roscoe, NY. I was given his address by the folks at the Fly Fishing
Museum and was asssured that he welcomed visitors. Now, I was very
excited by this. A basketball fan can not simply knock on Michael
Jordan's door, but here I was about to meet a big star in my realm.

Poul lived on a sort of cul-de-sac, sharing a driveway with another
house. His house was very small, but nicely kept up with a fancy sign
out front with his name on it. Now, in my very naive mind, A superstar
like that should have a big house. The impression i got was that the
small building was his fly tying shop and the big house was his
residence. Such was not the case. As it turns out, being a famed fly
fisherman is not a lucrative career. Many of the famous fishermen I
have met since lived very simply, but got to fish a lot and in many
fancy places. It is the tradeoff of a certain lifestyle for money.

So I had a lovely visit with the man. His walls were covered with
artifacts, many from other well-known fishermen. I bought a couple of
his flies and discussed fly tying, heard some of his stories. Wanting
to pay him a compliment, I said, "Well, this is a nice little shop you
have here."
Poul looked indignant and said, "This.....is.....my......HOME!!!"

Oops.

Pete Collin

Such was not the case. As it turns out, being a famed fly
fisherman is not a lucrative career. Many of the famous fishermen I
have met since lived very simply, but got to fish a lot and in many
fancy places. It is the tradeoff of a certain lifestyle for money.

So I had a lovely visit with the man. His walls were covered with
artifacts, many from other well-known fishermen.

This was quite true of the folks that were "in the trade" in the past...
many of the bigger names in the present day have made quite a lucrative
career out of it though, mainly because of landing good sized
endorsements and getting sponsored by the larger tackle manufacturers.

That said, a large number of them still remain simple folks that are
easy to approach, if you approach them with a modicum of respect. I've
been very fortunate to have enjoyed sitting down with the late Polly
Rosborough, as well as Jack Dennis, AK Best, Syl Nemes, Fran Betters, Al
and Gretchen Beatty, Randall Kaufmann, Randy Johnson, Harry Mason, Ken
Hanley, Jay Murakoshi, Jay Fair and many others...and my all time
favorite tyer, Andre Puyans for HOURS at a time and learning more than I
can recall.

I suggest hat if you ever get the opportunity to sit an watch, or tie
with or even "break a seal" and sit and talk over a drink or two with a
known tyer, you should and ask the questions that you've really wanted
to know the answers to... most of them are more than willing to share
their secrets.

Some of them they may swear you to secrecy over, and Andy, don't worry,
I'll never divulge the secret about getting true black when dyeing
materials to ANYONE... =)

Larry Medina

Such was not the case. As it turns out, being a famed fly
fisherman is not a lucrative career. Many of the famous fishermen I
have met since lived very simply, but got to fish a lot and in many
fancy places. It is the tradeoff of a certain lifestyle for money.

So I had a lovely visit with the man. His walls were covered with
artifacts, many from other well-known fishermen.

This was quite true of the folks that were "in the trade" in the past...
many of the bigger names in the present day have made quite a lucrative
career out of it though, mainly because of landing good sized
endorsements and getting sponsored by the larger tackle manufacturers.

That said, a large number of them still remain simple folks that are
easy to approach, if you approach them with a modicum of respect. I've
been very fortunate to have enjoyed sitting down with the late Polly
Rosborough, as well as Jack Dennis, AK Best, Syl Nemes, Fran Betters, Al
and Gretchen Beatty, Randall Kaufmann, Randy Johnson, Harry Mason, Ken
Hanley, Jay Murakoshi, Jay Fair and many others...and my all time
favorite tyer, Andre Puyans for HOURS at a time and learning more than I
can recall.

I suggest hat if you ever get the opportunity to sit an watch, or tie
with or even "break a seal" and sit and talk over a drink or two with a
known tyer, you should and ask the questions that you've really wanted
to know the answers to... most of them are more than willing to share
their secrets.

Some of them they may swear you to secrecy over, and Andy, don't worry,
I'll never divulge the secret about getting true black when dyeing
materials to ANYONE... =)

Larry Medina

"Larry Medina" wrote in message
. com...
Such was not the case. As it turns out, being a famed fly
fisherman is not a lucrative career.

(stuff snipped)
Some of them they may swear you to secrecy over, and Andy, don't worry,
I'll never divulge the secret about getting true black when dyeing
materials to ANYONE... =)
Larry Medina

Heh . . . heh . . . you sir are an unscrupulous cad. (grin) Not to share
such a recipe, with us peasants, may result in the end existence of dyedom,
as we know it. . . when you ol' farts die . . . or dye, without "me"
knowing. Shhhsss . . . post it here . . .and only you and I will. Promise,
I won't tell anyone. . . really.
BestWishes,
DaveMohnsen
Denver

Dyeing, to a true black,is not difficult. Simply depends on what your base
material is and the dye you use.

Allan