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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 02:25:03 GMT, "Wayne Harrison"
wrote:


wrote in message
roups.com...
I've only read three or four of your posts, Ken, but they've
stirred up some sixty-year old memories that have always been a little
unsettling for me. The first involved a bright kid in our squadron who
had no capacity for equilibrium in his life and it was a torment for
him. He solved his problem one night by going outside our quarters
into a little guard shack and, .. Putting a .38 in his mouth took the
top of his head off.

not even close. forty's been functioning for at least five years with
the top of his head off. courtesy of a combination of wild turkey, james
mcdonald roberts, and dawn in north carolina.

wayno


that and a truck ride . . . .

Peter

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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 02:25:03 GMT, "Wayne Harrison"
wrote:


wrote in message
roups.com...
I've only read three or four of your posts, Ken, but they've
stirred up some sixty-year old memories that have always been a little
unsettling for me. The first involved a bright kid in our squadron who
had no capacity for equilibrium in his life and it was a torment for
him. He solved his problem one night by going outside our quarters
into a little guard shack and, .. Putting a .38 in his mouth took the
top of his head off.

not even close. forty's been functioning for at least five years with
the top of his head off. courtesy of a combination of wild turkey, james
mcdonald roberts, and dawn in north carolina.

wayno


that and a truck ride . . . .

Peter

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Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharl...ers/index.html

wrote:
I've only read three or four of your posts, Ken,

Yeah? Then you haven't even BEGUN the torture regimen. Call us when you
been reading this tripe for several years.

but they've
stirred up some sixty-year old memories that have always been a little
unsettling for me. The first involved a bright kid in our squadron

Why would you equate this to Ken? ;-)

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Seeing both sides of an issue is the sign of a mature mind.

Posting on roff is not. However, reading roff without posting has been
known to cause men to go blind. And then there's that yucky hair on the
palms. . .
--
TL,
Tim
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wrote:
I've only read three or four of your posts, Ken,

Yeah? Then you haven't even BEGUN the torture regimen. Call us when you
been reading this tripe for several years.

but they've
stirred up some sixty-year old memories that have always been a little
unsettling for me. The first involved a bright kid in our squadron

Why would you equate this to Ken? ;-)

snip
Seeing both sides of an issue is the sign of a mature mind.

Posting on roff is not. However, reading roff without posting has been
known to cause men to go blind. And then there's that yucky hair on the
palms. . .
--
TL,
Tim
---------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/

Well, the birth wasn't virgin...
He was a Nazorean..'not from nazareth'
An ancient practioner of the religion of Egypt, Isis and Osiris....
...and Mary, snakes and all was not the whore, however the death, annointing,
rebirth and sacred sex thing piques my interest....

....
some say he came from New Orleans,
where he got in a fight oer a cagin' queen,
and a crashing blow from that big right hand,
sent a Mississippi gambler to the promised land,

big John . . . the Baptist

"Cyli" wrote in message
...
On 16 Dec 2004 22:37:38 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse)
wrote:

Bill Claspy opines:

And, don't forget the reason for the season.

Winter solstice!


The Bible doesn't say when Christ was born, and while it is true that the
winter solstice was chosen, it is NOT the reason MOST people celebrate
the
season. We celebrate His birthday, whether you like it or not. He is
the
reason for the season.

Most Biblical scholars say it couldn't have been anywhere near the
winter (N of the equator) solstice. They figure probably spring some
time.

If the Passover weren't so well dated and the New Testament didn't
indicate that the death and resurrection were together with it, I'd
think that Christmas and Easter should be the other way around. What
more appropriate (especially in English or related language) than the
return of the Sun and the Son? What more appropriate for spring than
the birth?

Most CHRISTIANS celebrate Christ's birthday. Almost all other
religions, old and new, that are much written about and in the
northern temperate zones have or had some sort of special observance
at that time of year. The Solstices were unequalled in all non-urban
(every race / creed at one time) groups in their power to affect
people. Even urbanites are capable of noticing that it nights get
longer and the fresh fruits and veggies either aren't around or aren't
local.

Traditions of some kind that long predated Christianity in our rather
Euro-Centric world were practiced. Many of them similar to the ones
which have grown to cluster now around Christmas. Now spending large
amounts of money has been added. It's okay.

BTW, I advise skipping the book, "Skipping Christmas". It was
assigned for our book club this month (a non-meeting month) and I
faithfully read almost half of it. John Grisham is generally a good
writer, but that was all I could handle. So I skimmed the last half.
It made me think of an attempt at something literary based on the
Griswold Family Christmas movie. It sucks. I'd sooner re-read all
the gun threads I've ever seen on rec.backcounty and here than ever
read it again. The characters were less loveable than ROFF on a bad
day. The premise was mildly interesting, but only mildly. The plot
got pretty badly stretched in some spots so "humor" could be forced
in. The very few episodes with real sentiment were overshadowed by
the, still few, episodes of deliberate schmaltz.

If you want to read something that will inspire you to contribute to a
food bank or homeless housing, try his book, "The Street Lawyer",
which will tell you why you might want to give a little more. Except
for the dramatic opening, it seems to be a realistic clue on what
happens to the fringes who can't make it into our idea of normal
society.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

Well, the birth wasn't virgin...
He was a Nazorean..'not from nazareth'
An ancient practioner of the religion of Egypt, Isis and Osiris....
...and Mary, snakes and all was not the whore, however the death, annointing,
rebirth and sacred sex thing piques my interest....

....
some say he came from New Orleans,
where he got in a fight oer a cagin' queen,
and a crashing blow from that big right hand,
sent a Mississippi gambler to the promised land,

big John . . . the Baptist

"Cyli" wrote in message
...
On 16 Dec 2004 22:37:38 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse)
wrote:

Bill Claspy opines:

And, don't forget the reason for the season.

Winter solstice!


The Bible doesn't say when Christ was born, and while it is true that the
winter solstice was chosen, it is NOT the reason MOST people celebrate
the
season. We celebrate His birthday, whether you like it or not. He is
the
reason for the season.

Most Biblical scholars say it couldn't have been anywhere near the
winter (N of the equator) solstice. They figure probably spring some
time.

If the Passover weren't so well dated and the New Testament didn't
indicate that the death and resurrection were together with it, I'd
think that Christmas and Easter should be the other way around. What
more appropriate (especially in English or related language) than the
return of the Sun and the Son? What more appropriate for spring than
the birth?

Most CHRISTIANS celebrate Christ's birthday. Almost all other
religions, old and new, that are much written about and in the
northern temperate zones have or had some sort of special observance
at that time of year. The Solstices were unequalled in all non-urban
(every race / creed at one time) groups in their power to affect
people. Even urbanites are capable of noticing that it nights get
longer and the fresh fruits and veggies either aren't around or aren't
local.

Traditions of some kind that long predated Christianity in our rather
Euro-Centric world were practiced. Many of them similar to the ones
which have grown to cluster now around Christmas. Now spending large
amounts of money has been added. It's okay.

BTW, I advise skipping the book, "Skipping Christmas". It was
assigned for our book club this month (a non-meeting month) and I
faithfully read almost half of it. John Grisham is generally a good
writer, but that was all I could handle. So I skimmed the last half.
It made me think of an attempt at something literary based on the
Griswold Family Christmas movie. It sucks. I'd sooner re-read all
the gun threads I've ever seen on rec.backcounty and here than ever
read it again. The characters were less loveable than ROFF on a bad
day. The premise was mildly interesting, but only mildly. The plot
got pretty badly stretched in some spots so "humor" could be forced
in. The very few episodes with real sentiment were overshadowed by
the, still few, episodes of deliberate schmaltz.

If you want to read something that will inspire you to contribute to a
food bank or homeless housing, try his book, "The Street Lawyer",
which will tell you why you might want to give a little more. Except
for the dramatic opening, it seems to be a realistic clue on what
happens to the fringes who can't make it into our idea of normal
society.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

wrote:
I've only read three or four of your posts, Ken, but they've
stirred up some sixty-year old memories that have always been a little
unsettling for me.

I don't care how "unsettled" you are, you ain't getting any
money from Forty's Psychiatrist Fund, if you want to go beggin'
for psychiatric help find yourself another friggin' newsgroup.

The first involved a bright kid in our squadron who
had no capacity for equilibrium in his life and it was a torment for
him. He solved his problem one night by going outside our quarters
into a little guard shack and, .. Putting a .38 in his mouth took the
top of his head off.

Let's see, smart guy, stuck in the military with a bunch of
levelheaded guys with the capacity for equilibrium. Sounds
like a perfectly reasonable solution to me, there are worse
things than being dead, you know.

--
Ken Fortenberry

wrote:
I've only read three or four of your posts, Ken, but they've
stirred up some sixty-year old memories that have always been a little
unsettling for me.

I don't care how "unsettled" you are, you ain't getting any
money from Forty's Psychiatrist Fund, if you want to go beggin'
for psychiatric help find yourself another friggin' newsgroup.

The first involved a bright kid in our squadron who
had no capacity for equilibrium in his life and it was a torment for
him. He solved his problem one night by going outside our quarters
into a little guard shack and, .. Putting a .38 in his mouth took the
top of his head off.

Let's see, smart guy, stuck in the military with a bunch of
levelheaded guys with the capacity for equilibrium. Sounds
like a perfectly reasonable solution to me, there are worse
things than being dead, you know.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in
message m...
...there are worse
things than being dead, you know.

True, true. The GOOD news is that only ONE of us has to be you!

Wolfgang
not a bad way to kick off the holiday season......nope, not bad at
all.

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in
message m...
...there are worse
things than being dead, you know.

True, true. The GOOD news is that only ONE of us has to be you!

Wolfgang
not a bad way to kick off the holiday season......nope, not bad at
all.