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Old December 18th, 2004, 04:06 PM
slenon
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Default Early Birthday Present-- Benchside Reference

I got my copy from Amazon for about $65.

Also have a copy of Tying The Classic Salmon Fly on the way that I scored
for $33. Their prices on Salmon fly tying books are quite good, Used copies
are often available at really great prices.


--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
When the dawn came up like thunder

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm



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Old December 26th, 2004, 03:54 AM
Guy Thornberg
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Default Early Birthday Present-- Benchside Reference

Whether it costs $50 or $100 it is worth the price when trying to remember
some obscure tying method used in the past, how you did it, and in most
cases gives you options and other methods to accomplish a similar task. I
tried it for bed time reading which doesn't work so well as it gives me
nightmares of how i get intertwined into the materials being tied to the
hook with no other possibility but being eaten by a large trout.
Well, time for my nightly medication so... Bring On ther Trout!!
Nightmares with trout are better than other fantacy dream I can think of.
Eggnog Anyone?
Guy

"slenon" wrote in message
m...
I got my copy from Amazon for about $65.

Also have a copy of Tying The Classic Salmon Fly on the way that I scored
for $33. Their prices on Salmon fly tying books are quite good, Used

copies
are often available at really great prices.


--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
When the dawn came up like thunder

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm





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Old December 26th, 2004, 06:48 AM
Ernie
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Default Early Birthday Present-- Benchside Reference


"Guy Thornberg" wrote
snip it gives me
nightmares of how i get intertwined into the materials being tied to the
hook
Guy


That reminded me of when I was fishing the Mcolumne in California.
It was a large pool with an eddy that danced my dry fly around and
around and for some reason I decided my line needed straightening.
I was standing on a large flat rock, so I stripped off several feet of
line which coiled around my feet. I looked up just in time to see a
huge Brown sip my fly and head for the bottom. I managed to set
the hook, but also managed to entangle my feet in the line. To make
matters worse the trout headed straight for me. By the time I got
untangled the trout had broken the leader by catching it on a rock.
I had nightmares that night
Ernie.


  #4  
Old December 27th, 2004, 02:48 PM
Scott Seidman
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Default Early Birthday Present-- Benchside Reference

"Guy Thornberg" wrote in
:

Whether it costs $50 or $100 it is worth the price when trying to
remember some obscure tying method used in the past, how you did it,
and in most cases gives you options and other methods to accomplish a
similar task. I tried it for bed time reading which doesn't work so
well as it gives me nightmares of how i get intertwined into the
materials being tied to the hook with no other possibility but being
eaten by a large trout. Well, time for my nightly medication so...
Bring On ther Trout!! Nightmares with trout are better than other
fantacy dream I can think of. Eggnog Anyone?
Guy


Biggest lessons learned so far--

1) It's all in the underbody. Even when you don't think you're tying an
underbody, you often are. A little extra effort here (which seems to be
becoming second nature) will result in a better fly, and will probably
save time f-ing around with top layers.

2)(And this goes along with 1, above) Control of thread diameter-- the
hows and whens of when you need it tightly wound, and when you need it
flat.

3) The book has a remarkable section on handling floss, and within a
dozen practice shots, and liberal use of a razor blade, I think I've got
it almost down. I've mostly switched to unifloss and unistretch (God's
gift to those who choose not to use real floss), but I think I might be
switching back to good old 4-strand for quite a few patterns.

4) How to REALLY handle peacock herl. I've always thought you just tied
it on and wrapped it, and if it wasn't fuzzy enough, use more herls-- and
if it still wasn't fuzzy enough, tough. Now, just one herl gives me
fuzzier bodies than I've ever had before.

5) The many alternatives to rooster hackle.

6) The different types of hairs, between solid and hollow, and what you
should look for to best serve each method.

And this list doesn't even get to split tail methods, parachute methods,
amazing things to do with dubbing loops, and the nifty things you can do
with beads.

Scott




  #5  
Old December 27th, 2004, 03:06 PM
Tim J.
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Default Early Birthday Present-- Benchside Reference

Scott Seidman wrote:
"Guy Thornberg" wrote in
:

Whether it costs $50 or $100 it is worth the price when trying to
remember some obscure tying method used in the past, how you did it,
and in most cases gives you options and other methods to accomplish a
similar task. I tried it for bed time reading which doesn't work so
well as it gives me nightmares of how i get intertwined into the
materials being tied to the hook with no other possibility but being
eaten by a large trout. Well, time for my nightly medication so...
Bring On ther Trout!! Nightmares with trout are better than other
fantacy dream I can think of. Eggnog Anyone?
Guy


Biggest lessons learned so far--

1) It's all in the underbody. Even when you don't think you're tying
an underbody, you often are. A little extra effort here (which seems
to be becoming second nature) will result in a better fly, and will
probably save time f-ing around with top layers.

2)(And this goes along with 1, above) Control of thread diameter-- the
hows and whens of when you need it tightly wound, and when you need it
flat.

3) The book has a remarkable section on handling floss, and within a
dozen practice shots, and liberal use of a razor blade, I think I've
got it almost down. I've mostly switched to unifloss and unistretch
(God's gift to those who choose not to use real floss), but I think I
might be switching back to good old 4-strand for quite a few patterns.

4) How to REALLY handle peacock herl. I've always thought you just
tied it on and wrapped it, and if it wasn't fuzzy enough, use more
herls-- and if it still wasn't fuzzy enough, tough. Now, just one
herl gives me fuzzier bodies than I've ever had before.

5) The many alternatives to rooster hackle.

6) The different types of hairs, between solid and hollow, and what
you should look for to best serve each method.

And this list doesn't even get to split tail methods, parachute
methods, amazing things to do with dubbing loops, and the nifty
things you can do with beads.


Bastid! I guess I'll have to go get that book.
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj


  #6  
Old December 27th, 2004, 04:12 PM
Stan Gula
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Default Early Birthday Present-- Benchside Reference

Tim J. wrote:
Bastid! I guess I'll have to go get that book.


You can borrow my copy some time to see if it's something you *need*.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps


  #7  
Old December 27th, 2004, 04:16 PM
Tim J.
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Default Early Birthday Present-- Benchside Reference

Stan Gula wrote:
Tim J. wrote:
Bastid! I guess I'll have to go get that book.


You can borrow my copy some time to see if it's something you *need*.


Thanks - I'll do that. But what does "need" have to do with buying more
fly fishing stuff? ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj


  #8  
Old December 26th, 2004, 06:48 AM
Ernie
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"Guy Thornberg" wrote
snip it gives me
nightmares of how i get intertwined into the materials being tied to the
hook
Guy


That reminded me of when I was fishing the Mcolumne in California.
It was a large pool with an eddy that danced my dry fly around and
around and for some reason I decided my line needed straightening.
I was standing on a large flat rock, so I stripped off several feet of
line which coiled around my feet. I looked up just in time to see a
huge Brown sip my fly and head for the bottom. I managed to set
the hook, but also managed to entangle my feet in the line. To make
matters worse the trout headed straight for me. By the time I got
untangled the trout had broken the leader by catching it on a rock.
I had nightmares that night
Ernie.


  #9  
Old December 26th, 2004, 03:54 AM
Guy Thornberg
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Whether it costs $50 or $100 it is worth the price when trying to remember
some obscure tying method used in the past, how you did it, and in most
cases gives you options and other methods to accomplish a similar task. I
tried it for bed time reading which doesn't work so well as it gives me
nightmares of how i get intertwined into the materials being tied to the
hook with no other possibility but being eaten by a large trout.
Well, time for my nightly medication so... Bring On ther Trout!!
Nightmares with trout are better than other fantacy dream I can think of.
Eggnog Anyone?
Guy

"slenon" wrote in message
m...
I got my copy from Amazon for about $65.

Also have a copy of Tying The Classic Salmon Fly on the way that I scored
for $33. Their prices on Salmon fly tying books are quite good, Used

copies
are often available at really great prices.


--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
When the dawn came up like thunder

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm





  #10  
Old December 26th, 2004, 03:54 AM
Guy Thornberg
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Whether it costs $50 or $100 it is worth the price when trying to remember
some obscure tying method used in the past, how you did it, and in most
cases gives you options and other methods to accomplish a similar task. I
tried it for bed time reading which doesn't work so well as it gives me
nightmares of how i get intertwined into the materials being tied to the
hook with no other possibility but being eaten by a large trout.
Well, time for my nightly medication so... Bring On ther Trout!!
Nightmares with trout are better than other fantacy dream I can think of.
Eggnog Anyone?
Guy

"slenon" wrote in message
m...
I got my copy from Amazon for about $65.

Also have a copy of Tying The Classic Salmon Fly on the way that I scored
for $33. Their prices on Salmon fly tying books are quite good, Used

copies
are often available at really great prices.


--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
When the dawn came up like thunder

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm





 




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