Is there anyone in here ?

That wants to see Rodney and Charles room together and fish the Mid-Tn.
classic together any more than me ? g

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear

"Joshuall" wrote in message
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That wants to see Rodney and Charles room together and fish the Mid-Tn.
classic together any more than me ? g

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear

You are too funny.

I want the couch in that suite... Somebody loan me a camcorder. I wouldn't
want to miss a second of that action.

Let's just put them in a Center Hill cage match! Last man standing can't
post anything for a year! Now that would be a ROFB Classic!
I think you can take him Catfish!
"Joshuall" wrote in message
...
That wants to see Rodney and Charles room together and fish the Mid-Tn.
classic together any more than me ? g

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear

I'll pay for the room, if we can throw AL in to the mix.


"Joshuall" wrote in message
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That wants to see Rodney and Charles room together and fish the Mid-Tn.
classic together any more than me ? g

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God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear

Yeerrrrr funny Josh! LOL

I think the Rodmaker/Redding adventure went over too easy. Let's do it this
way... I'll take the first day with RL, and whatever is left of him I'll
throw over to Warren.



"Joshuall" wrote in message
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That wants to see Rodney and Charles room together and fish the Mid-Tn.
classic together any more than me ? g

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear

Charles B. Summers wrote:
Yeerrrrr funny Josh! LOL

I think the Rodmaker/Redding adventure went over too easy. Let's do it this
way... I'll take the first day with RL, and whatever is left of him I'll
throw over to Warren.

If you guys think you can out fish all the other pros I have beat in the
same boat with me, (which is everyone that has went with me, or I with
them), you need to be fishing for the big money, like they do.


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Bass_Mr. wrote:
I have never meRodney,never used any of his products,don't know him from
Adam.I have been around here for awhile and am unclear as to why he gets the
bums rush from the group.
What has he done to create such animosity from everyone?

Try googleing his posts from a year or two ago.
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...s.fishing.bass

Is it his advertising his products or the way he does it?

His attitude. Definitely. There are dozens of people on this newsgroup
alone who could have introduced his products without all the flaming.
That doesn't mean they would all like the products, but they wouldn't
have felt like they were being forced to listen to fingernails on a
chalkboard.


Is it spam?

Sometimes.

Is it jealousy?

No way would I trade places with him.

Is he a braggart?

Does a cat have a climbing gear?

I'd really like to know before someone steals his lunch money or tells the
teacher.
I can understand the abuse Al(ice) gets,he is deserving for sure,but I
really don't know why RL gets the abuse.So can anyone tell me what the real
problem is?

I read here to learn to be a better fisherman and relax. I can't relax
with a little Napoleon screaming in my ear with a bullhorn.

Let me add this disclaimer: He may have mellowed some lately, the only
posts I've seen of his in a year or so were when he was quoted by
others, or he changed his email addy to climb out of the killfile.

Thanks Henry!
I come in here to learn some more about bass fishing,see what the new hot
baits might be,and relax with folks that have a same interest I do.
In the future I will just consider RL to be the groups "mad fishing
scientist" and let it go at that.Lifes too short to worry about every little
thing.I appreciate your reply.
"Henry Hefner" wrote in message
...
Bass_Mr. wrote:
I have never meRodney,never used any of his products,don't know him from
Adam.I have been around here for awhile and am unclear as to why he gets
the bums rush from the group.
What has he done to create such animosity from everyone?

Try googleing his posts from a year or two ago.
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...s.fishing.bass

Is it his advertising his products or the way he does it?

His attitude. Definitely. There are dozens of people on this newsgroup
alone who could have introduced his products without all the flaming. That
doesn't mean they would all like the products, but they wouldn't have felt
like they were being forced to listen to fingernails on a chalkboard.


Is it spam?

Sometimes.

Is it jealousy?

No way would I trade places with him.

Is he a braggart?

Does a cat have a climbing gear?

I'd really like to know before someone steals his lunch money or tells
the teacher.
I can understand the abuse Al(ice) gets,he is deserving for sure,but I
really don't know why RL gets the abuse.So can anyone tell me what the
real problem is?

I read here to learn to be a better fisherman and relax. I can't relax
with a little Napoleon screaming in my ear with a bullhorn.

Let me add this disclaimer: He may have mellowed some lately, the only
posts I've seen of his in a year or so were when he was quoted by others,
or he changed his email addy to climb out of the killfile.

Rodney,

Are you serious???? I have never heard anyone talk about how great they
are more than you. What a disappointment it would be to meet at a
neutral site and watch you struggle to find fish, let alone catch them.

I have to re-read the article on the top 25 fisherman of all time
(In-Fisherman from a couple years ago) because I don't recall any of them
thanking you for your contributions to the fishing industry or their
success. I know I have stumbled across Rich Zaleski's name a few times,
but never Rodney Long. I have read quite a few fishing books, and you
would think somewhere in the annals of fishing lore I would find some
mention of your contributions Rodney, or at least how your mere presence
among people you fish with have changed their lives for the better.

Anyone who says I can catch fish , I just can't find them needs to
re-evaluate their place in the fishing world. Well, at least people that
sit and beat their chest about how great they are. You might have had a
couple inventions that have gotten you some recognition and maybe a ride
along with a few bass pros, but it doesn't make you superior to anyone
here.

I don't care how big your wallet is, or how well connected you are, none
of that matters. Get off your pedestal, come down to earth and try being
a little modest. You have to remember, a majority of the fisherman are
not pros, and if you want to sell something to the majority maybe you
should try and relate to them just a little bit.

If I have to hear about how you outfished a pro from the back of their
boat with your inventions I am going to puke. I read all the periodicals
and books I can from this industry. I watch all the videos I can get my
hands on , and I had no idea who you were until I joined this newsgroup
and had to read your constant ramblings about how great you are. You
could ask, who the hell am I. Rodney, I am nobody, I am not better than
you, I am not better than Warren, or anybody else. I am just a guy who
loves to fish, and has done it for over 15 years.

Then again, if you keep telling yourself you are great, maybe one day you
will be. Not that this means anything to you, but the people I respect
don't have to tell me how great they are, I already know by their actions
and by their attitude.

I have this image of you Rodney, and all I keep seeing is a Oil painting
of you above your mantle with you pointing to yourself with both thumbs
and spot lights shining on the picture so that the people that walk into
your house have to notice it right away, and then sitting on your mantle
are all your inventions with an LED counter telling how many of each item
is sold.

Now that I have come this far, and had a chance to reflect on what I have
written so far I am thinking I should give up fishing. Hell if a billion
dollar industry can be put under by the Rodney Long Machine and his
inventions then I don't want to be part of it. I mean, you have said
yourself people are using your inventions and beating people like Warren.
I used to think it was the fisherman that caught the fish, and not the
lure or hook, but now I know the truth. Why should any of us even try if
we are not going to use your inventions. I apologize for everything I
wrote, you are the greatest, Soon you will be able to replace that Oil
painting with the new one you have created for yourself with Al Linder,
Ray Scott, Denny Brauer, Rick Clunn, Doug Hannon, Warren Wolk, Hell throw
in anyone that has ever picked up a rod and reel all bowing at your feet,
and you stand above them in a white robe , with your arms out and a halo
looking over all your children, we are weak Rodney, but you are strong. I
can't compete, so if anybody would like a Ranger 354v I am just going to
give it away, as well as 15 rod/reel combos that I was so looking forward
to using this year in tournaments. I figure, Rodney probably wouldn't
bother to sell me his inventions now because I have disgraced him , and I
really don't deserve to have th privilege of tying on one of his
inventions.

I am sorry Rodney, please do not have the fishing industry black list me.
I know how well connected you are, and how far your influence spreads. If
Forrest Wood showed up at my house tonight to take back my boat I wouldn't
be surprised.

Chris


On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:32:53 -0600, Rodney wrote:

Charles B. Summers wrote:
Yeerrrrr funny Josh! LOL

I think the Rodmaker/Redding adventure went over too easy. Let's do it this
way... I'll take the first day with RL, and whatever is left of him I'll
throw over to Warren.

If you guys think you can out fish all the other pros I have beat in the
same boat with me, (which is everyone that has went with me, or I with
them), you need to be fishing for the big money, like they do.

Chris Rennert wrote:
Rodney,

Are you serious???? I have never heard anyone talk about how great they
are more than you. What a disappointment it would be to meet at a
neutral site and watch you struggle to find fish, let alone catch them.

Chris I'm not that great,, but my fishing products and new techniques are


I have to re-read the article on the top 25 fisherman of all time
(In-Fisherman from a couple years ago) because I don't recall any of them
thanking you for your contributions to the fishing industry or their
success. I know I have stumbled across Rich Zaleski's name a few times,
but never Rodney Long. I have read quite a few fishing books, and you
would think somewhere in the annals of fishing lore I would find some
mention of your contributions Rodney,

I'm still new in this Chris, but My products have made "EVERY" fishing
magazine , don't you ever read them ? You will be reading about them in
hard back books soon, as I have already done the interviews with the
Authors, while I demo stated the new techniques I have invented.

or at least how your mere presence
among people you fish with have changed their lives for the better.

Well I guess you don't follow any of the Old guys in fishing, Bill
Dance, Hank Parker, Ray Scott, and Al Linder, even old Roland Martin
uses my stuff.

What's the big deal here ? some guys here said I was B.S., and when I
throw these guys who use my stuff out there, they then say I'm just
bragging,, no I'm proving that people who know fishing more than them ,
disagree with them


Anyone who says I can catch fish , I just can't find them needs to
re-evaluate their place in the fishing world. Well, at least people that
sit and beat their chest about how great they are. You might have had a
couple inventions that have gotten you some recognition and maybe a ride
along with a few bass pros, but it doesn't make you superior to anyone
here.

I'm not superior,, my fishing products are, to the ones the people use
here on this list, that's all. and these I have proved to be better with
some well known fishermen, them using the old way, and me my new way, it
did not mean I was a better fisherman, I was just doing things they
could not, with the rigs they used

I don't care how big your wallet is, or how well connected you are, none
of that matters. Get off your pedestal, come down to earth and try being
a little modest. You have to remember, a majority of the fisherman are
not pros, and if you want to sell something to the majority maybe you
should try and relate to them just a little bit.

When I first brought out a new product a few on here did everything to
riddicule it,, and as I brought out more, they kept attacking me,, i
defended myself and my products, as these so call know it alls didn't
and don't have a clue about the use of them. When I can on here sharing
the fish caught with them,, again I was attacked as being a spammer,
what I was trying to do is open up a new world of fishing, but a few on
here , thought because they didn't know how to use them , they were not
worth using, because "they" were not the experts in these new
techniques, they would slam them, Warren was the worst. hecoudl not
stand the thought of some teenager that could piuck up one of my rigs
could beat him not using one.

If I have to hear about how you outfished a pro from the back of their
boat with your inventions I am going to puke. I read all the periodicals
and books I can from this industry. I watch all the videos I can get my
hands on , and I had no idea who you were until I joined this newsgroup
and had to read your constant ramblings about how great you are. You
could ask, who the hell am I. Rodney, I am nobody, I am not better than
you, I am not better than Warren, or anybody else. I am just a guy who
loves to fish, and has done it for over 15 years.

The only reason I keep bringing this up is Warren and others have called
me a con artist, that when I offer to prove to them, that my stuff does
as claimed, they yell B.S., just because they can't accept they did not
come up with any of it, they dream, and I actualy do, they just can't
handle that

Then again, if you keep telling yourself you are great, maybe one day you
will be. Not that this means anything to you, but the people I respect
don't have to tell me how great they are, I already know by their actions
and by their attitude.

My attitude on this list has nothing to do with my general attatude, or
the way I am,, here I am on the defence at all times, in the real world
, where I deal one on one with people, that is not nessasary, as I can
back up every claim about my inventions, just by showing them.

When the first pro's started drop shotting, they started dominating,
untill others started fishing the same way, not that they were better
fishermen, just they were using a new technique that dominated certain
fishing condistions, Now with one of my rigs it takes this much further
than just clear deep water, it works at all deths, and the muddyer the
water the better.

Let's look at fish holding in the rocks, my Rock Hopper lets fishermen
fish their soft plastics right through those rocks, crawling right over
them, this works better than dragging a crank bait through them, or even
a spinner bait, so a person using that weight, has the advantage, even
if he is a less skilled fisherman


Now that I have come this far, and had a chance to reflect on what I have
written so far I am thinking I should give up fishing. Hell if a billion
dollar industry can be put under by the Rodney Long Machine and his
inventions then I don't want to be part of it.

You do like to Streach what has been stated by me,, the fishing "weight"
industry is not that large, and less than 5% of it are serious bass
fishermen wanting to carolina or texas rig rocks. My wiggle rig is for
those wanting to catch much bigger fish, and have the patence to learn
how to manipulate their lures
I have taken the action of a lure from the manufacturer, and placed it
into the hands of the fisherman,, this has never been done before.

I will not hurt any of the lure buisness, as you must use lures to use
my rigs
I mean, you have said
yourself people are using your inventions and beating people like Warren.
I used to think it was the fisherman that caught the fish, and not the
lure or hook, but now I know the truth.

It is the "technique" a lure is fished that either catches them or
don't, now with everyone using the same rig, the best technique with
that rig wins, I have just come up with better techniques, that require
a "product" to be used


Why should any of us even try if
we are not going to use your inventions. I apologize for everything I
wrote, you are the greatest, Soon you will be able to replace that Oil
painting with the new one you have created for yourself with Al Linder,
Ray Scott, Denny Brauer, Rick Clunn, Doug Hannon, Warren Wolk, Hell throw
in anyone that has ever picked up a rod and reel all bowing at your feet,
and you stand above them in a white robe , with your arms out and a halo
looking over all your children, we are weak Rodney, but you are strong. I
can't compete, so if anybody would like a Ranger 354v I am just going to
give it away, as well as 15 rod/reel combos that I was so looking forward
to using this year in tournaments. I figure, Rodney probably wouldn't
bother to sell me his inventions now because I have disgraced him , and I
really don't deserve to have th privilege of tying on one of his
inventions.

You really are full of it, aren't you ?


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com