Quick Corrode Hooks

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:20:59 -0600, "No left turn"
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Quick Corrode Hooks ?

What kind of alloy would make a good hook AND corrode in fresh =
water in about a week.
Think something like Sintered Cast Iron would work?
What metals corrode in a few days?

I love to have hooks like this for my plastic worms and my =
foam poppers. So what if the lure needs a bit more care...

Think about it.
Gut hook a fish or break off a trophy and rest assured it hasn't =
just received a death sentence.

Or How about hooks lost in those mixed use areas? Be nice to know =
that hooks lost near the boat dock wont be around to snag a =
kids foot the next week.

Any metallurgist geniuses out there?
Hey - What did Chrysler used to make those K cars out of ?

'Cause I don't believe most fish survive waiting for a standard hook =
to corrode, lets keep this thread on the topic of corrosion =
please.

Steve P
Dallas FlyFishers
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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...Most (all?) fresh water hooks will eventually completely erode in
fresh water.

So will plutonium.

Your fears are unfounded.

Well, unless you're planning on having grandchildren.

Wolfgang
who always thought erosion was a problem, not a .......wait for
it.......solution!

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:20:59 -0600, "No left turn"
wrote:

Quick Corrode Hooks ?

What kind of alloy would make a good hook AND corrode in fresh water in about a week.
Think something like Sintered Cast Iron would work?
What metals corrode in a few days?


Our DNR recommends cutting the line (close to the fish) when it's deep
hooked, if one is doing catch and release. Their figures (you'll have
to check with them for the basis) are that the hook is completely
corroded by digestive fluids (yes, all the liquid in fish is other
than pure distilled water) within a max of two weeks and is generally
harmless. If you're not doing catch and release, filet the fish
quickly so that you can retrieve your lure and hook before the
corrosion starts.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

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On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:26:32 -0600, Conan The Librarian
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George Adams wrote:

I agree with Chuck that your looking for a problem to match a solution,
but if you're all that concerned, why not take a stone and/or some
sandpaper and remove the finish from whatever hooks you are using.

Hey, that's a great idea! But to really do it right, we need to
take it a couple of steps further: Remove all the finish from the hooks
and set them in a bucket of water.

Coke. The cola kind. It'll rot thin metal much faster than mere
water will.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

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"Cyli" wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:26:32 -0600, Conan The Librarian
wrote:

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George Adams wrote:

I agree with Chuck that your looking for a problem to match a solution,
but if you're all that concerned, why not take a stone and/or some
sandpaper and remove the finish from whatever hooks you are using.

Hey, that's a great idea! But to really do it right, we need to
take it a couple of steps further: Remove all the finish from the hooks
and set them in a bucket of water.

Coke. The cola kind. It'll rot thin metal much faster than mere
water will.

Ice cold coke. Coke is mostly water, right? And cold water holds more
dissolved oxygen, right? And it's the oxygen in the water that causes rust,
right? And we're all going to have a bigass cooler full of ice in the
stream with us......to anesthetize the fish......right?

Wolfgang
it's the sheer unbridled elegance of it that brings tears to the eye.

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
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No left turn wrote:

Think about it.
Gut hook a fish or break off a trophy and rest assured it hasn't
just received a death sentence.

If the idea of gut hooking fish bothers you, don't use bait. If the
fish breaks off, I seriously doubt it's a death sentence. I've caught
fish with hooks still embedded in their jaws, and I'll bet most ROFFians
have too. Some ROFFians have even told of catching a fish with their own
fly embedded in its jaw. (I.e., the fish broke off yet continued to feed
and took a fly a second time.)

'Cause I don't believe most fish survive waiting for a standard hook
to corrode, lets keep this thread on the topic of corrosion
please.

Sorry I couldn't help there. Since I don't believe that most fish die
waiting for a standard hook to corrode, I think you have a solution
looking for a problem.

HTH.


Chuck Vance

Chuck, I'm not in a ggogling mood but it seems I recall this subject making
the rounds a few years back. However, around that time I had read an article
in a magazine, addressing this very subject.

Firstly, of the things I read, most did not address the use of hemostats - I
don't know that I've ever hurt a fish, no matter how deeply hooked, when
I've had my hemostats and indeed will not fish without them.

Anyhow the article summarized by saying that foul hooked fished did not
suffer the mortality one might expect. And that it might even be better to
leave a portion of line attached to the hook ( if the fish must be released
with hook) in order to help keep the hook from sliding crosswise in the
throat.

Secondly, secondly, . . ah well, lost my train of thought.

john

asadi wrote:

Chuck, I'm not in a ggogling mood but it seems I recall this subject making
the rounds a few years back. However, around that time I had read an article
in a magazine, addressing this very subject.

Firstly, of the things I read, most did not address the use of hemostats - I
don't know that I've ever hurt a fish, no matter how deeply hooked, when
I've had my hemostats and indeed will not fish without them.

Anyhow the article summarized by saying that foul hooked fished did not
suffer the mortality one might expect. And that it might even be better to
leave a portion of line attached to the hook ( if the fish must be released
with hook) in order to help keep the hook from sliding crosswise in the
throat.

Yep, that's exactly what our F&W folks recommend. Snip the line and
leave the hook. It will corrode on its own, and it doesn't seem to
interfere with feeding.

I'm starting to wonder if this whole thread was spam, as our OP
seems to have disappeared altogether.


Chuck Vance (maybe he just quick corroded away)

Wolfgang wrote:

Ice cold coke. Coke is mostly water, right? And cold water holds more
dissolved oxygen, right? And it's the oxygen in the water that causes rust,
right? And we're all going to have a bigass cooler full of ice in the
stream with us......to anesthetize the fish......right?

Wolfgang
it's the sheer unbridled elegance of it that brings tears to the eye.

This, my friends is a perfect example of why I enjoy ROFF.


Chuck Vance (just think what the world would be like if ROFFians
were in positions of power)

Wolfgang typed:
"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
...Most (all?) fresh water hooks will eventually completely erode in
fresh water.

So will plutonium.

Your fears are unfounded.

Well, unless you're planning on having grandchildren.

Wolfgang
who always thought erosion was a problem, not a .......wait for
it.......solution!

That, my friend, depends on if you're the dirt or the ditch.
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj/

Tim J. wrote:

Conan The Librarian typed:

Wolfgang wrote:

Ice cold coke. Coke is mostly water, right? And cold water holds
more dissolved oxygen, right? And it's the oxygen in the water that
causes rust, right? And we're all going to have a bigass cooler
full of ice in the stream with us......to anesthetize the
fish......right? Wolfgang
it's the sheer unbridled elegance of it that brings tears to the eye.

This, my friends is a perfect example of why I enjoy ROFF.

Yeah, it's reminiscent of the ol' Monty Python skit for identifying witches.

Bingo. I knew I recognized that accent. :-)

Chuck Vance (just think what the world would be like if ROFFians
were in positions of power)

Now that's just sick.

You say that like it's a bad thing.


Chuck Vance (if she weighs the same as a duck ... she's made of
wood ... and therefore ... )