Attaching a fighting butt?

On Aug 29, 4:12 pm, BJ Conner wrote:
On Aug 29, 12:54 pm, wrote:

On Aug 28, 2:24 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 00:44:24 -0000, wrote:
Looking at a three forks 8wt and it does not have a fighting butt does
anyone know of a company that makes one that is easy to attach? Like a
slip on or something like that?

No.

Solve your problem by buying a good rod.

solve my problem by sending me some money. want my address?

Trying to put a fighting butt on that POS is throwing good money after
bad. Flawed economics, that may be why you don't have money. I don't
think you can get a good reel seat with a fighting butt for less than
$20.
By the time you screw up the existing handel trying to put it on your
going to have tripped over a dollar to pick up a dime.
As DIY project it don't seem to have the potential of being good or
cheap.

http://flydepot.com/flyfishing/pn--r...ion/pid--1271/
this link is from Tom it costs $5.00.

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:24:28 -0700, wrote:

haven't bought anything yet. Never complained, just asked a question.

You don't seem to be too happy with your pos fly rod, so you have to
alter it? That's complaining.

I know what it is, I made no claims to say anything different. But
thanks for the wisdom. Fly fishishing ..classism.. and consumerism at
it's finest.

Classism? Bull****. You're a fly fisherman. Would you buy cheap
tires for a race car? Flimsy helmet to ride your bike? A pair of
brown shoes to go with your tux? Spend the money on a good rod and
you won't complain (or at least not about the lack of a fighting
butt). No classism involve. Properism..... is that a word? It is
now!

BTW, putting a piece of rubber meant to go on a walking cane is not a
fighting butt. A fighting butt (a good one, at least) actually makes
the fly rod longer by a few inches at the butt thereby making it
easier to land a big fish. I have a ten foot Sage 7 weight with a
screw-in fighting butt. It is an enormous help when fighting a big
trout or salmon. Without it, it is just another 10 foot Sage 7 weight
and no walking cane rubber is gonna make it better.

Dave

Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:54:00 -0700, wrote:

solve my problem by sending me some money. want my address?

I'm a charitable man, but I wouldn't give money to anyone who bought a
cheap fly rod and then complained because it didn't have a fighting
butt. Buy a good rod - and yes you can afford it, otherwise you
wouldn't be flyfishing.

My good freakin' heck, Dave. You say some weird, no taste, elitist crap
here but this one takes the cake. I can't afford to buy one of your
"good rods" so I guess I don't fly fish. So what was it I was doing a
couple of weeks ago when I held in my hand a gorgeous, high altitude, 18
inch cutthroat trout? All I had with me was a Cabala's Korean made POS
that had a POS Okuma reel and a POS Cortland 333 line and POS homemade
leader with a 5x tippet and a POS 89 cent foam beetle. The whole setup
set me back less than $200. How I ever accomplished this without a fancy
shmancy (translate--way over priced) "good rod" must be amazing. Your
nauseating arrogance has reached the point of insufferable. Get a life
and get over it.

Russell

On Aug 29, 4:40 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:24:28 -0700, wrote:
haven't bought anything yet. Never complained, just asked a question.

You don't seem to be too happy with your pos fly rod, so you have to
alter it? That's complaining.

I know what it is, I made no claims to say anything different. But
thanks for the wisdom. Fly fishishing ..classism.. and consumerism at
it's finest.

Classism? Bull****. You're a fly fisherman. Would you buy cheap
tires for a race car? Flimsy helmet to ride your bike? A pair of
brown shoes to go with your tux? Spend the money on a good rod and
you won't complain (or at least not about the lack of a fighting
butt). No classism involve. Properism..... is that a word? It is
now!

BTW, putting a piece of rubber meant to go on a walking cane is not a
fighting butt. A fighting butt (a good one, at least) actually makes
the fly rod longer by a few inches at the butt thereby making it
easier to land a big fish. I have a ten foot Sage 7 weight with a
screw-in fighting butt. It is an enormous help when fighting a big
trout or salmon. Without it, it is just another 10 foot Sage 7 weight
and no walking cane rubber is gonna make it better.

Dave

Dave,
I haven't bought the rod yet. This is getting out of hand. I'm taking
it the wrong way. I'm dabbling in the upper weights. My primary rod is
a 5wt and a friend convinced me to try for some steelhead here off the
Lake Erie tribs. I am only mildly interested ,the crowds are enough to
keep me away. I fish the rest of the year with a 5wt . I had an 8wt at
one time and it was overkill and tiring for me...this 8wt will be used
4 times a year tops. I can't justify spending alot on something that I
don' really like to use..more of a novelty for me. Didn't mean to
ruffle any feathers here. I wasn't complaining about a rod I never
bought I was just asking if I could put something on this $50 dollar
rod I noticed that, in reality I probably wouldn't need. Because, my
chances of hooking a steelhead are slim but if it did happen I wanted
to jam something softer into my stomach before my tippet broke
off...rough day sorry about the classism ****...

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:01:16 -0700, wrote:

Because, my
chances of hooking a steelhead are slim but if it did happen I wanted
to jam something softer into my stomach before my tippet broke
off...rough day sorry about the classism ****...

No problem. I have taken chinook salmon and steelhead from Great
Lakes tribs with Peter Charles. I caught an enormous chinook on an 8
weight that had its fighting butt snug in the rod sock back at the
truck. It was a chore landing big fish without it. An Ontario guide
talked me into a Sage XP 10 foot 7 weight (four pieces). It is a joy
to fish, especially landing a good sized fish with the built-in
fighting butt. If you buy the 3 forks, and you are only going to use
it once in awhile, I wouldn't worry about a fighting butt. It would
help, of course, but it isn't necessary.

Sorry if I came off sarcastic.

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:54:29 -0600, "Russell D." wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:54:00 -0700, wrote:

solve my problem by sending me some money. want my address?

I'm a charitable man, but I wouldn't give money to anyone who bought a
cheap fly rod and then complained because it didn't have a fighting
butt. Buy a good rod - and yes you can afford it, otherwise you
wouldn't be flyfishing.

My good freakin' heck, Dave. You say some weird, no taste, elitist crap
here but this one takes the cake. I can't afford to buy one of your
"good rods" so I guess I don't fly fish. So what was it I was doing a
couple of weeks ago when I held in my hand a gorgeous, high altitude, 18
inch cutthroat trout? All I had with me was a Cabala's Korean made POS
that had a POS Okuma reel and a POS Cortland 333 line and POS homemade
leader with a 5x tippet and a POS 89 cent foam beetle. The whole setup
set me back less than $200. How I ever accomplished this without a fancy
shmancy (translate--way over priced) "good rod" must be amazing. Your
nauseating arrogance has reached the point of insufferable. Get a life
and get over it.

Russell

He's simply a total asshole. And a habitual liar.

/daytripper (but he really knows how to treat a female impersonator...)

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:54:29 -0600, "Russell D." wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:54:00 -0700, wrote:

solve my problem by sending me some money. want my address?

I'm a charitable man, but I wouldn't give money to anyone who bought a
cheap fly rod and then complained because it didn't have a fighting
butt. Buy a good rod - and yes you can afford it, otherwise you
wouldn't be flyfishing.

My good freakin' heck, Dave. You say some weird, no taste, elitist crap
here but this one takes the cake. I can't afford to buy one of your
"good rods" so I guess I don't fly fish. So what was it I was doing a
couple of weeks ago when I held in my hand a gorgeous, high altitude, 18
inch cutthroat trout? All I had with me was a Cabala's Korean made POS
that had a POS Okuma reel and a POS Cortland 333 line and POS homemade
leader with a 5x tippet and a POS 89 cent foam beetle. The whole setup
set me back less than $200. How I ever accomplished this without a fancy
shmancy (translate--way over priced) "good rod" must be amazing. Your
nauseating arrogance has reached the point of insufferable. Get a life
and get over it.

Russell

Wow. Reminds me of that song: You got me, under your skin....or is
that I've got you under my skin.... d;o)

I started fishing a looooong time ago with a five buck Sears bamboo
rod and a cheap reel. I still have some inexpensive rods and reels
that work well, even a glass Cortland rod that I use for bass and
bluegill (it was my mom's) That is not the problem. I could shiv a
git what you or anyone else uses, but if you buy it and you're not
satisfied with it, don't complain about it. I was under the
impression that Janusmusic had already bought the rod and now wanted
to modify it. Uh, that is not the way to go on a cheap OR an
expensive rod. Look before you leap; know what you are buying.

He has cleared up that, and I have told him to buy the rod he wants
and not to worry about a fighting butt.

My grandsons use KPOS rods and cheap Orvis reels, and they do well.
Over the years I have recommended inexpensive rods/reels. So, please,
don't come down on me just because I favor Winston rods. Hell, I got
a lawyer friend in NC who will absolutely fish with nothing but a T &
T. I let him use a Winston of mine when he broke his rod on the
stream at a Penns Clave, and he thought it was a piece of ****, but he
was grateful.

Cortland 333? I remember when that first came out. Revolutionized
the fly fishing business. And it is not a POS, nor are home made
leaders, nor is a foam beetle ya bought for $0.89. I've fished with
flies a helluva lot cheaper.

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:01:22 -0400, daytripper
wrote:

He's simply a total asshole. And a habitual liar.

/daytripper (but he really knows how to treat a female impersonator...)

You're the liar, Dave. And a cheap-skate to boot.

Female impersonator? Oh, you mean that time at Lakewood when you
dressed up in a dress? Shoot, I wasn't going to tell anyone about
that, Dave. It was a BIG dress too! I'm talkin BIG.

On 26 Aug, 02:44, wrote:
Hello,
Looking at a three forks 8wt and it does not have a fighting butt does
anyone know of a company that makes one that is easy to attach? Like a
slip on or something like that?
any help appreciated.
Brian

Most tackle shops will make you one for a few dollars. I have attached
such butt extensions to quite a few rods for various people. All you
really need is a piece of wood or similar, which fits into the rod
blank. Although a piece of rod blank is better of course.Again most
tackle shops have plenty of pieces lying around. Take the butt cap off
the rod, ( Usually glued in, if so, stick it in boiling water for a
minute or two).

Measure the inside diameter of the blank at the extreme end. Remember
the blank has a taper! If you get a piece of blank from the tackle
shop, then it is usually quite easy to find a piece that fits. If you
make it of wood etc, then you need to taper it carefully. It must fit
snugly, and at least four to five inches inside the blank. More will
do not harm, but less can cause you severe problems!

That was basically it. You can add corks to the extension as desired,
and make sure you use a plug for the butt when the extension is not in
use, as otherwise sand ingress etc, can cause problems.

TL
MC

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/

Here is one I made from a piece of carbon fibre blank, and a few
corks;

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6675/fbuttmr4.jpg

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/7840/fbut1at7.jpg

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3149/fbut2ka5.jpg

It is better if the butt spigot fits entirely into the reel seat.

This one is a permanently attached fighting butt. Most tackle shops
should have rubber or similar plugs to fit the butt itself, or the
extension, but they are usually not as good as corks.Corks finished
flush are better on the butt extension anyway, as shown in both these
cases;

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5864/fbut3qw8.jpg

It is easy, quick, and cheap to do. Good way to extend a rod´s
capabilities. Also saves a lot of wear and tear on your arm when
fighting heavy fish, and reduces the chance of your rod breaking.

Whatever you do, DONT!!! try holding the rod blank itself above the
hand grip when fighting heavy fish. The slight wall deformation caused
by the pressure point can cause the blank to shatter.

TL
MC

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/