Loop connection vs. knot

Ken, the last time I heard you were not making your own tapered leaders.
Are you "too lazy or incompetent to tie good knots"? "You wouldn't hang a
velvet Elvis in the Louvre, why put tacky **** on your flyline ?"
Ernie


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Jonathan Cook wrote:
"Wolfgang" wrote:

Leader links.....for every situation, every day.

... really loved it. ...

Leader links are tacky little doodads for those who are
too lazy or incompetent to tie good knots.

You wouldn't hang a velvet Elvis in the Louvre, why put
tacky **** on your flyline ?

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Ken Fortenberry

George was right.

I use poly leaders and change them a lot. Especially for steelhead fishing
with a 9' rod or 15' spey rod. I do not change them very much fishing for
trout in shallow water, but do in lakes. However one of the real strengths
of poly leaders is that they are supposed to turn over heavy flies better,
and turn over all flies in wind better. Poly leaders go hand in hand with
braided loops


"rw" wrote in message
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haresear wrote:

My Question: Are loop connectors at the end of your fly line an
advantage?

They suck on light tackle. You have this gross, doubled-over, inch-long
glob of mono -- plus the knots, which make the leader at least FOUR
times the density at spots. It's not the right setup for stealthy trout
fishing, and certainly not for dry-fly fishing.

Some people complain about poor casting with loop-to-loop connections
due to "hinging," or some other supposed effect, but I don't believe it.
I just think they suck, period. :-)

What, please tell me, is the pressing need to change leaders easily? How
many times, per fishing day, do you change leaders? If it even comes
close to 1 (from below), you're doing something wrong. And, when you do
change leaders, what is so hard about tying a three-turn blood knot in
thick mono?

Oh, BTW, welcome to ROFF, haresear!

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Sierra fisher wrote:
I use poly leaders and change them a lot. Especially for steelhead fishing
with a 9' rod or 15' spey rod.

My claim was only that loop-to-loop connections suck on "light tackle."

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I caught that. But I use them on light tackle also. Reasons, poly leaders
turn flies over better, and it is easier to fine turn tippet size to
situation. Poly leaders work better with braided loops.

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Sierra fisher wrote:
I use poly leaders and change them a lot. Especially for steelhead
fishing
with a 9' rod or 15' spey rod.

My claim was only that loop-to-loop connections suck on "light tackle."

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The ones I have are called "Cast Connectors" They come in Fl Orange and clear.
Here's how they work. They are barrel shaped with an axial hole and a 180
degree radial hole at the mid point. Put the line in an axial hole and out the
radial hole. Tie a knot, trm, and put knot back into the barrel. Put the
thick part of the leader in the other axial hole and out the radial hole . Tie
a knot trim, and put the knot back in the barrel.. Also; they make it easier
to land fish (on the rare occasion I catch one). They slide through the guides
smoothly. I used to reel in to a point where my line was still extending out
the tip top. Now I reel into the point where the leader length extending out
from the tip top is the optimum for using the net.

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:11:13 -0800, rw
wrote:

What, please tell me, is the pressing need to change leaders easily? How
many times, per fishing day, do you change leaders?

I don't change leaders that much, but when I need to during a fishing
day it isn't planned and doesn't always come at a convenient time, so
I like to be able to do it quickly. I use braided loops on everything
from 2wt to 11wt and haven't had any problems with them. I don't use
the little shrink tubing, though, I wrap the end with tying thread and
put a thin coat of Aquaseal over it.
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Charlie Choc wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:11:13 -0800, rw
wrote:

What, please tell me, is the pressing need to change leaders easily? How
many times, per fishing day, do you change leaders?

I don't change leaders that much, but when I need to during a fishing
day it isn't planned and doesn't always come at a convenient time, so
I like to be able to do it quickly. I use braided loops on everything
from 2wt to 11wt and haven't had any problems with them. I don't use
the little shrink tubing, though, I wrap the end with tying thread and
put a thin coat of Aquaseal over it.

With a butt section of mono nail-knotted to the line (and coated with
KnotSense or Pliobond), it takes no more than a minute to blood knot a new
leader on. These days I regularly take more time than that from fishing
(several times an hour sometimes) to just stare at the trees and
daydream.

Compared with the time it takes to snip off the old leader, roll it up
and stuff it somewhere safe, search in the vest for another leader,
unroll it, straighten it, etc., the actual connecting time is next to
nothing.

JR

JR wrote:

Compared with the time it takes to snip off the old leader, roll it up
and stuff it somewhere safe, search in the vest for another leader,
unroll it, straighten it, etc., the actual connecting time is next to
nothing.

At last, someone with some common sense. :-)

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JR wrote:
Compared with the time it takes to snip off the old leader, roll it up
and stuff it somewhere safe, search in the vest for another leader,
unroll it, straighten it, etc., the actual connecting time is next to
nothing.

"rw" wrote
At last, someone with some common sense. :-)
rw

Every little bit helps said the lady who peed in the sea.
Ernie