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Old March 7th, 2004, 03:05 AM
Jonathan Cook
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rw wrote in message ...
Action News that Cheney shot about 70 stocked pheasants and mallards


Isn't anyone taking the bait?


Man, you didn't even wait half a day! It must be snowing or something
up there. Down here, I was riding through our mini-Grand Canyon all day.
Well, that's a slight exaggeration, but it was a great day, probably
65 and sunny.

Is shooting 70 farm-raised pheasants and ducks in one day sportsmanlike?


Probably not. But is catching 50 trout in a one day sportsmanlike? (OBROFF)

Someone I know (closely) has been on a stocked pheasant hunt back east.
But in their hunt, the birds were released the previous day, and they
hunted them up with dogs. More like stocker trout fishing. It sounds like
Cheney and gang just sat there and sipped tea as the field hands released
birds to fly over them. I wouldn't care to partake in that.

I always wanted to go pheasant hunting, though. Maybe Vang will host
something someday :-) When I was about ten I pulled up on what I
thought was a grouse (we were grouse hunting after all) but it didn't
look right and finally I realized it was a hen pheasant. First and
only pheasant I've ever seen hunting.

Jon.
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Old March 7th, 2004, 05:42 AM
rw
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Kevin Vang wrote:

Anytime you're ready, dude! Make it mid-October on the
shores of Lake Sakakawea, and we can hunt pheasants, Hungarian
partridge, sharptail grouse, ducks, and geese all morning,
and fish for pike, walleye, white bass, smallmouth, and
even Chinook salmon in the afternoons.


WHOA!

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Old March 7th, 2004, 06:00 AM
rw
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Jonathan Cook wrote:

rw wrote in message ...

Action News that Cheney shot about 70 stocked pheasants and mallards


Isn't anyone taking the bait?



Man, you didn't even wait half a day! It must be snowing or something
up there. Down here, I was riding through our mini-Grand Canyon all day.
Well, that's a slight exaggeration, but it was a great day, probably
65 and sunny.


We had a ferocious storm last night, but today was fine. We're having
our annual XC Ski Festival, and it's been a big hit. They drank up five
gallons of my homebrew this afternoon.

No riding (we have four feet of snow), but I visited my horses
yesterday, in Round Valley, and spent an hour steelhead fishing right by
their pasture on the Salmon River. No luck. They're still stacked up
below the Pahsimeroi hatchery.

Is shooting 70 farm-raised pheasants and ducks in one day sportsmanlike?



Probably not. But is catching 50 trout in a one day sportsmanlike? (OBROFF)


No, it isn't. One should quit well before 50. IMO.

Someone I know (closely) has been on a stocked pheasant hunt back east.
But in their hunt, the birds were released the previous day, and they
hunted them up with dogs. More like stocker trout fishing. It sounds like
Cheney and gang just sat there and sipped tea as the field hands released
birds to fly over them. I wouldn't care to partake in that.


Me neither. It gives me the creeps, frankly.

I always wanted to go pheasant hunting, though. Maybe Vang will host
something someday :-) When I was about ten I pulled up on what I
thought was a grouse (we were grouse hunting after all) but it didn't
look right and finally I realized it was a hen pheasant. First and
only pheasant I've ever seen hunting.


I've never been bird hunting, apart from plinking songbirds with a
pellet gun when I was a kid, but this year I'm changing that. We don't
have pheasants, but my goal is to bag geese, turkey, and chukar this
year. Wish me luck.

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Old March 7th, 2004, 02:19 PM
Roger Ohlund
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"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
. com...

"Mike Connor" wrote in message
...

"rw" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
. ..

You never caught a stock rainbow, which was specifically planted for the
purpose of being caught? Fished on the redds? Judge not, lest you be
judged.

What politicians do with their free time, whether having blowjobs or
shooting sitting ducks, is infinitely more preferable to what some of

them
do at work.

TL
MC


certainly one of the most profound posts ever to appear herein.


So true!

/Roger


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Old March 7th, 2004, 02:21 PM
Jonathan Cook
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rw wrote in message ...
They drank up five
gallons of my homebrew this afternoon.


What'd you do, serve the whole town?!? I guess they
were happy after that :-)

Me neither. It gives me the creeps, frankly.


I looked on the web before I posted to verify the story
(not that I don't trust you but some wierd stuff has been
flying by ROFF lately!). It seems Cheney is quite the avid
sportsman. I mean "real" hunting and fishing. I'm surprised
he would enjoy something like that, if he's done the real
thing. But then, Cabela's seems to have 5 pages of game
feeders, and ATVs are everywhere, so it's hard to tell
what is "real" hunting anymore.

have pheasants, but my goal is to bag geese, turkey, and chukar this
year. Wish me luck.


Yeah, I've made opening day of spring turkey the last 3 years
(unfortunately _only_ the opening morning the last two years),
had gobblers close but so far not fired a shot. But I'm hooked,
it is way cool, and hoping for two days this year.

Jon.

PS: I have nothing in particular against ATVs. I know lots of
nice people with them, and indeed the best hunter I know uses one.
But just as in fishing, where 90% of the people fish the close,
easy to access water, the same is true in hunting, except now
they can drive just about anywhere. And there's too many who
don't care about the laws and just cut across the land (and of
course that's how the ATV industry advertises, anyways :-(. It
doesn't seem like it's gonna stop until every garage has two!)
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Old March 7th, 2004, 02:54 PM
rw
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Jonathan Cook wrote:

PS: I have nothing in particular against ATVs. I know lots of
nice people with them, and indeed the best hunter I know uses one.
But just as in fishing, where 90% of the people fish the close,
easy to access water, the same is true in hunting, except now
they can drive just about anywhere. And there's too many who
don't care about the laws and just cut across the land (and of
course that's how the ATV industry advertises, anyways :-(. It
doesn't seem like it's gonna stop until every garage has two!)


ATVs have their uses, but I don't think hunting should be one of them,
aside possibly for setting up camp and retrieving game. I'm gratified
that Idaho is finally putting some serious restrictions on them. Elk and
deer hunting from ATVs has dramatically increased in this state. Call me
an elitist, but I think driving around on an ATV in search of game is
cheating. These are the same people who have the nerve to complain about
wolves killing "their" elk.

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Old March 7th, 2004, 02:57 PM
George Cleveland
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 07:54:42 -0700, rw
wrote:

Jonathan Cook wrote:

PS: I have nothing in particular against ATVs. I know lots of
nice people with them, and indeed the best hunter I know uses one.
But just as in fishing, where 90% of the people fish the close,
easy to access water, the same is true in hunting, except now
they can drive just about anywhere. And there's too many who
don't care about the laws and just cut across the land (and of
course that's how the ATV industry advertises, anyways :-(. It
doesn't seem like it's gonna stop until every garage has two!)


ATVs have their uses, but I don't think hunting should be one of them,
aside possibly for setting up camp and retrieving game. I'm gratified
that Idaho is finally putting some serious restrictions on them. Elk and
deer hunting from ATVs has dramatically increased in this state. Call me
an elitist, but I think driving around on an ATV in search of game is
cheating. These are the same people who have the nerve to complain about
wolves killing "their" elk.



What type of restrictions? Vilas County, a few counties north of me,
has just banned them from county land by a 2 to 1 vote in the last
election.

g.c.
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Old March 7th, 2004, 04:20 PM
rw
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George Cleveland wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 07:54:42 -0700, rw
wrote:


Jonathan Cook wrote:

PS: I have nothing in particular against ATVs. I know lots of
nice people with them, and indeed the best hunter I know uses one.
But just as in fishing, where 90% of the people fish the close,
easy to access water, the same is true in hunting, except now
they can drive just about anywhere. And there's too many who
don't care about the laws and just cut across the land (and of
course that's how the ATV industry advertises, anyways :-(. It
doesn't seem like it's gonna stop until every garage has two!)


ATVs have their uses, but I don't think hunting should be one of them,
aside possibly for setting up camp and retrieving game. I'm gratified
that Idaho is finally putting some serious restrictions on them. Elk and
deer hunting from ATVs has dramatically increased in this state. Call me
an elitist, but I think driving around on an ATV in search of game is
cheating. These are the same people who have the nerve to complain about
wolves killing "their" elk.




What type of restrictions? Vilas County, a few counties north of me,
has just banned them from county land by a 2 to 1 vote in the last
election.

g.c.


http://www2.state.id.us/fishgame/hun...Vs/default.htm

“Motorized vehicle use as an aid to hunting for wildlife is restricted
to established roadways open to motorized vehicle traffic capable of
travel by full-sized automobiles. A full-sized automobile is defined as
any motorized vehicle with a gross vehicle weight in excess of 1,500
pounds.”

"You will be considered hunting if you have a valid hunting license and
tag and are chasing, driving, flushing, attracting, pursuing, seeking,
following, trailing, shooting at, stalking, or lying in wait for, any
wildlife while in possession of a hunting weapon. The rule does not
affect you if you are staying on established roads."

It's basically putting ATV hunters on a level footing with conventional
road-hunting slobs, but so far only in some areas.

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Old March 7th, 2004, 05:21 PM
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In Kevin Vang wrote:
I think I'll hold off before I pencil anything on the calendar
this year though. We have had several very good years for
pheasant, but this winter has been so cold and snowy that
I am afraid for the populations. Hopefully when the
biologists start the spring census, the news won't be as
bad as I fear it will be.

Judging from the number of splattered birds in the ditch
from the lake south, and the number of live birds seen picking
grit in the same area, it *looks* like they made it through
the winter OK. What will be worse, from a reproductive
standpoint, would be a long, cold, wet spring that would
take a lot of the young of the year out.

*We* got a lot of snow, but there was rather less from
the lake south, so perhaps not a *huge* impact to the population.
The hunting in the fall may be better than the fishing if the
lake continues to fall like it has. :-(

Todd (remove hook to reply)
 




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