World's Fish Are In Hot Water

Roger Coppock wrote:
I'm glad that both of my children have had
the experience of catching a trout in a cold
mountain stream, because global warming
may heat up the waters so that they are the
last generation who could do so.

-.-. --.- Roger

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WWF: World's Fish Are In Hot Water
GENEVA, Nov. 18, 2005

By Sam Cage
©MMV The Associated Press
(AP) Higher water temperatures are threatening the world's fish by
reducing food stocks and stunting growth, which could cause them to
reproduce less, the World Wildlife Fund said Friday.

Global warming is causing the world's rivers, lakes and oceans to heat
up and some temperate fish like salmon, catfish and sturgeon cannot
spawn at all if winter temperatures do not drop below a certain level,
according to the Gland, Switzerland-based conservation group.

"The balance is set to tip, as climate change continues the pressure on
fish populations already strained by overfishing, pollution and habitat
loss," said Katherine Short, a WWF fisheries expert. "We must act to
protect fish, both marine and freshwater. They are one of our most
valuable biological, nutritional and economic assets."

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The rest:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...e1055989.shtml


blah, blah, blah.

"Act to protect our fish"??? How?? Reverse the natural climate changes
we're experiencing? Throw fish pellets into the water? Eliminate
natural predators?

What part of "the earth's climate is changing because we're coming out
of an ice age" is hard to understand?

They fail to discuss the root cause of global warming. That's because
they want everyone to think its from greenhouse gasses caused by man.
This is absurd since man contributes very little to the total amount of
greenhouse gasses. Many groups that blame man are quick to qualify
their statements with something like "Factoring out volcanos and other
natural events" when these are the MAJOR source of these gasses.

Volcanic eruption in the last 100 years or so have put out many times
what man has since he wsa been on earth. Forest fires contribute
massive amounts of these gasses. These are natural events unless you
think man can just stop volcanos from erupting by passing a law against
that kind of event.

And there is significant evidence to point to the FACT that global
warming is what happens naturally when we're coming out of an ice age.

"Cal Vanize" wrote in message
...


...there is significant evidence to point to the FACT that global warming
is what happens naturally when we're coming out of an ice age.

Gosh......ain't science wonderful?

Wolfgang
who never in an eon......maybe even an era or an epoch......would have
guessed at a connection between warming and the end of an ice age.

Volcanic eruption in the last 100 years or so have put out many times
what man has since he wsa been on earth. Forest fires contribute
massive amounts of these gasses. These are natural events unless you
think man can just stop volcanos from erupting by passing a law against
that kind of event.



Bull****. Cite your references. Here's mine:
http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/how_volc...e_effects.html

"Volcanic eruptions can enhance global warming by adding CO2 to the
atmosphere. However, a far greater amount of CO2 is contributed to the
atmosphere by human activities each year than by volcanic eruptions.
Volcanoes contribute about 110 million tons/year, whereas other sources
contribute about 10 billion tons/year."

--riverman

riverman wrote:

Volcanic eruption in the last 100 years or so have put out many times
what man has since he wsa been on earth. Forest fires contribute
massive amounts of these gasses. These are natural events unless you
think man can just stop volcanos from erupting by passing a law against
that kind of event.




Bull****. Cite your references. Here's mine:
http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/how_volc...e_effects.html

"Volcanic eruptions can enhance global warming by adding CO2 to the
atmosphere. However, a far greater amount of CO2 is contributed to the
atmosphere by human activities each year than by volcanic eruptions.
Volcanoes contribute about 110 million tons/year, whereas other sources
contribute about 10 billion tons/year."

--riverman

Yep, another report written by those on the payroll of the environmental
movement.

I guess you're so naive as to believe that the environmentalist's money
would support an unbiased report or one that ould contradict their
alarmist position.

Go find independent studies so that you can clear your head of all that
propaganda meant to get you to contribute your money to line the pockets
of the environmental lobbyists.

On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 18:52:00 -0600, Cal Vanize
wrote:

riverman wrote:

Volcanic eruption in the last 100 years or so have put out many times
what man has since he wsa been on earth. Forest fires contribute
massive amounts of these gasses. These are natural events unless you
think man can just stop volcanos from erupting by passing a law against
that kind of event.




Bull****. Cite your references. Here's mine:
http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/how_volc...e_effects.html

"Volcanic eruptions can enhance global warming by adding CO2 to the
atmosphere. However, a far greater amount of CO2 is contributed to the
atmosphere by human activities each year than by volcanic eruptions.
Volcanoes contribute about 110 million tons/year, whereas other sources
contribute about 10 billion tons/year."

--riverman

Yep, another report written by those on the payroll of the environmental
movement.

I guess you're so naive as to believe that the environmentalist's money
would support an unbiased report or one that ould contradict their
alarmist position.

Go find independent studies so that you can clear your head of all that
propaganda meant to get you to contribute your money to line the pockets
of the environmental lobbyists.



So you're saying that the Geology department of San Diego State is a
biased source. What source do you suggest? Rush Limbo?


g.c.

George Cleveland wrote:

On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 18:52:00 -0600, Cal Vanize
wrote:


riverman wrote:


Volcanic eruption in the last 100 years or so have put out many times
what man has since he wsa been on earth. Forest fires contribute
massive amounts of these gasses. These are natural events unless you
think man can just stop volcanos from erupting by passing a law against
that kind of event.




Bull****. Cite your references. Here's mine:
http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/how_volc...e_effects.html

"Volcanic eruptions can enhance global warming by adding CO2 to the
atmosphere. However, a far greater amount of CO2 is contributed to the
atmosphere by human activities each year than by volcanic eruptions.
Volcanoes contribute about 110 million tons/year, whereas other sources
contribute about 10 billion tons/year."

--riverman

Yep, another report written by those on the payroll of the environmental
movement.

I guess you're so naive as to believe that the environmentalist's money
would support an unbiased report or one that ould contradict their
alarmist position.

Go find independent studies so that you can clear your head of all that
propaganda meant to get you to contribute your money to line the pockets
of the environmental lobbyists.




So you're saying that the Geology department of San Diego State is a
biased source. What source do you suggest? Rush Limbo?




Their report was molded to fit the views of the organisation funding the
study.

"Cal Vanize" wrote in message
...


George Cleveland wrote:

So you're saying that the Geology department of San Diego State is a
biased source. What source do you suggest? Rush Limbo?




Their report was molded to fit the views of the organisation funding the
study.

Idiot.

Wolfgang

Cal Vanize wrote:
riverman wrote:

Volcanic eruption in the last 100 years or so have put out many times
what man has since he wsa been on earth. Forest fires contribute
massive amounts of these gasses. These are natural events unless you
think man can just stop volcanos from erupting by passing a law against
that kind of event.




Bull****. Cite your references. Here's mine:
http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/how_volc...e_effects.html

"Volcanic eruptions can enhance global warming by adding CO2 to the
atmosphere. However, a far greater amount of CO2 is contributed to the
atmosphere by human activities each year than by volcanic eruptions.
Volcanoes contribute about 110 million tons/year, whereas other sources
contribute about 10 billion tons/year."

--riverman

Yep, another report written by those on the payroll of the environmental
movement.

I guess you're so naive as to believe that the environmentalist's money
would support an unbiased report or one that ould contradict their
alarmist position.

Go find independent studies so that you can clear your head of all that
propaganda meant to get you to contribute your money to line the pockets
of the environmental lobbyists.

Again, cite YOUR sources. I can provide references from .gov sources,
research groups, textbooks, professional journals (peer edited) and
direct testimonials from research scientists all attesting that
human-contributed greenhouse gases exceed volcanic greenhouse gas
emissions. I'm very curious what you would deem as an "unbiased
report". I'd love to see your research data.

--riverman

riverman wrote:
... I'm very curious what you would deem as an "unbiased
report". I'd love to see your research data.


I suspect it's funded by the Oil Petroleum Institue,
or that other paragon of obbjective and scientific
information, the Bush administration, funded by ...