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Old November 27th, 2007, 04:40 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Mike[_6_]
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Default Cutting the taper off DT line?

On 27 Nov, 17:25, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:


YES, you got it!
-tom


This also allows a very specific trick when using such rigs. The last
part of the leader is finer tippet. A "Tuck" cast is used on the final
delivery. This allows very precise placement of the weight and a
vertical entry with some force, driving the fly down to its operating
depth very quickly.

The "tuck cast" and more or less the same rig you are describing is
explained here;

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-on...s/tactics.html

for a more detailed explanation of the tuck cast;
http://www.google.com/search?q=Tuck+....sexyloops.com

TL
MC
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Old November 27th, 2007, 05:11 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Tom Nakashima
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Default Cutting the taper off DT line?


"Mike" wrote in message
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On 27 Nov, 17:25, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:


YES, you got it!
-tom


This also allows a very specific trick when using such rigs. The last
part of the leader is finer tippet. A "Tuck" cast is used on the final
delivery. This allows very precise placement of the weight and a
vertical entry with some force, driving the fly down to its operating
depth very quickly.

The "tuck cast" and more or less the same rig you are describing is
explained here;

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-on...s/tactics.html

for a more detailed explanation of the tuck cast;
http://www.google.com/search?q=Tuck+....sexyloops.com

TL
MC


Yes, I am familiar with the tuck cast.
I also use an upper casting plane when performing it.

For this rig set-up I just may use an arc cast, a gentle pick-up and
laydown. Definitely staying as much as I can out of the air to prevent
tangles. I do like the upstream cast mend, you need a lot of slack for that.
I also plan to try a gentle roll cast that I use, by stopping the rod
higher, and gently letting the line loop out. Executes well with a slow cane
rod and DT line.
-tom


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Old November 27th, 2007, 05:36 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Mike[_6_]
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Default Cutting the taper off DT line?

On 27 Nov, 18:11, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message

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On 27 Nov, 17:25, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:


YES, you got it!
-tom


This also allows a very specific trick when using such rigs. The last
part of the leader is finer tippet. A "Tuck" cast is used on the final
delivery. This allows very precise placement of the weight and a
vertical entry with some force, driving the fly down to its operating
depth very quickly.


The "tuck cast" and more or less the same rig you are describing is
explained here;


http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-on...yling/Tactics/...


for a more detailed explanation of the tuck cast;
http://www.google.com/search?q=Tuck+....sexyloops.com


TL
MC


Yes, I am familiar with the tuck cast.
I also use an upper casting plane when performing it.

For this rig set-up I just may use an arc cast, a gentle pick-up and
laydown. Definitely staying as much as I can out of the air to prevent
tangles. I do like the upstream cast mend, you need a lot of slack for that.

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Old November 27th, 2007, 06:12 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Tom Nakashima
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Default Cutting the taper off DT line?


"Mike" wrote in message
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On 27 Nov, 18:11, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message

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On 27 Nov, 17:25, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:


YES, you got it!
-tom


This also allows a very specific trick when using such rigs. The last
part of the leader is finer tippet. A "Tuck" cast is used on the final
delivery. This allows very precise placement of the weight and a
vertical entry with some force, driving the fly down to its operating
depth very quickly.


The "tuck cast" and more or less the same rig you are describing is
explained here;


http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-on...yling/Tactics/...


for a more detailed explanation of the tuck cast;
http://www.google.com/search?q=Tuck+....sexyloops.com


TL
MC


Yes, I am familiar with the tuck cast.
I also use an upper casting plane when performing it.

For this rig set-up I just may use an arc cast, a gentle pick-up and
laydown. Definitely staying as much as I can out of the air to prevent
tangles. I do like the upstream cast mend, you need a lot of slack for
that.
I also plan to try a gentle roll cast that I use, by stopping the rod
higher, and gently letting the line loop out. Executes well with a slow
cane
rod and DT line.
-tom


Will all work, but the other massive advantage of the tuck cast, is

that you can drop the fly in very close to a bank, or log, or
whatever, and it will sink vertically. All the other casts described
require the leader to straighten, which means you are at least a
leader length away from the bank before your fly reaches operating
depth, and this is often simply too far.


You can also tuck a roll cast. Pull the rod tip back as the line is

straightening. Requires a little practice, but works great, and is a
first class method of fishing down a high or undercut bank etc. Also
possible to haul on the line at the right moment to achieve the same
thing. Matter of taste which method one employs. Timing is critical,
as otherwise you will force turn-over, and the fly will land on the
bank!

Other aerial mends with this rig will work, but are far more difficult

to execute, and I personally would not try them at all in a number of
conditions and circumstances.

I donīt use cane rods for fishing any more and have not done so for a

long time, but slower rods are definitely advantageous for these and
similar techniques. Indeed, some are more or less impossible with fast
rods.

TL
MC

Yes I love fishing the undercuts close to the bank, some anglers over look
these areas. Some are undercut quite a bit and pretty deep, good grounds for
fish to cover, the Trinity River as a lot of that.
-tom


 




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