Cutting the taper off DT line?

I read an article over the holidays about a technique of cutting the taper
of a double taper line when nymph fishing. The reasons were to have better
line management control, and the ability to throw large weighted flies with
ease, plus a nice drift. The article stated that since dry-fly presentation
wasn't a concern, the taper was useless.

I've never even considered cutting the taper off a line, and wondering if
anyone has done that when nymphing?
-tom

On Nov 26, 3:09 pm, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
I read an article over the holidays about a technique of cutting the taper
of a double taper line when nymph fishing. The reasons were to have better
line management control, and the ability to throw large weighted flies with
ease, plus a nice drift. The article stated that since dry-fly presentation
wasn't a concern, the taper was useless.

I've never even considered cutting the taper off a line, and wondering if
anyone has done that when nymphing?

Just because someone does a stupid thing and then gets it published in
an article does not make it a "right" thing. The taper exists for a
reason and many a fly fishermen gets good line management and tosses
large flies when nymphing. For that matter they sell level running
lines which are often used by Great Lakes Steelheader's which is what
I would suggest one does before they went and cut a perfectly good DT
fly line.

Tom Nakashima wrote:
I read an article over the holidays about a technique of cutting the taper
of a double taper line when nymph fishing. The reasons were to have better
line management control, and the ability to throw large weighted flies with
ease, plus a nice drift. The article stated that since dry-fly presentation
wasn't a concern, the taper was useless.

I've never even considered cutting the taper off a line, and wondering if
anyone has done that when nymphing?
-tom



There might be something to it.

Level lines used to be common years ago, mainly, I thought, because they
were cheap. More expensive tapered lines were easier to cast. Maybe you
can manage the line better with a level line. It's possible, but it's
been so long since I've used one that I have no clue.

I don't buy the throwing "large weighted flies with ease" argument.

If you give it a try I'd be interested to know it comes out.

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"rw" wrote in message
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Tom Nakashima wrote:
I read an article over the holidays about a technique of cutting the
taper of a double taper line when nymph fishing. The reasons were to have
better line management control, and the ability to throw large weighted
flies with ease, plus a nice drift. The article stated that since dry-fly
presentation wasn't a concern, the taper was useless.

I've never even considered cutting the taper off a line, and wondering if
anyone has done that when nymphing?
-tom

There might be something to it.

Level lines used to be common years ago, mainly, I thought, because they
were cheap. More expensive tapered lines were easier to cast. Maybe you
can manage the line better with a level line. It's possible, but it's been
so long since I've used one that I have no clue.

I don't buy the throwing "large weighted flies with ease" argument.

If you give it a try I'd be interested to know it comes out.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Actually I do have a DT line that needs to be reversed, thought
about cutting the taper off the one side and experimenting.

The article is drifting for steelhead in rivers.
For chucking large weighted flies, the anglers makes his own
leaders and starts with a 30" piece of 40 lb test butt section, jointed with
the now taperless line by nailknot. He then adds a 12" piece of 20 lb.
connected with a double uni-knot. Then bloodknots on his long 10 lb.
tippet/tippets depending on the fly or flies used, and adds splits
accordingly.

Said chucking large heavy flies is a lot easier as well as putting in
a cast mend.

It's an interesting technique, and something I would like to experiment
with.
-tom

"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
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On Nov 26, 3:09 pm, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
I read an article over the holidays about a technique of cutting the
taper
of a double taper line when nymph fishing. The reasons were to have
better
line management control, and the ability to throw large weighted flies
with
ease, plus a nice drift. The article stated that since dry-fly
presentation
wasn't a concern, the taper was useless.

I've never even considered cutting the taper off a line, and wondering if
anyone has done that when nymphing?

Just because someone does a stupid thing and then gets it published in
an article does not make it a "right" thing. The taper exists for a
reason and many a fly fishermen gets good line management and tosses
large flies when nymphing. For that matter they sell level running
lines which are often used by Great Lakes Steelheader's which is what
I would suggest one does before they went and cut a perfectly good DT
fly line.

It sounds like cutting the taper off a DT line would make it act as a level
line. Now wondering if Gary Borger thought it was a stupid thing when he
wrote about it in his "Nymphing" book on the section of casting heavy
weighted flies?
-tom

On Nov 26, 1:13 pm, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
"rw" wrote in message

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Tom Nakashima wrote:
I read an article over the holidays about a technique of cutting the
taper of a double taper line when nymph fishing. The reasons were to have
better line management control, and the ability to throw large weighted
flies with ease, plus a nice drift. The article stated that since dry-fly
presentation wasn't a concern, the taper was useless.

I've never even considered cutting the taper off a line, and wondering if
anyone has done that when nymphing?
-tom

There might be something to it.

Level lines used to be common years ago, mainly, I thought, because they
were cheap. More expensive tapered lines were easier to cast. Maybe you
can manage the line better with a level line. It's possible, but it's been
so long since I've used one that I have no clue.

I don't buy the throwing "large weighted flies with ease" argument.

If you give it a try I'd be interested to know it comes out.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Actually I do have a DT line that needs to be reversed, thought
about cutting the taper off the one side and experimenting.

The article is drifting for steelhead in rivers.
For chucking large weighted flies, the anglers makes his own
leaders and starts with a 30" piece of 40 lb test butt section, jointed with
the now taperless line by nailknot. He then adds a 12" piece of 20 lb.
connected with a double uni-knot. Then bloodknots on his long 10 lb.
tippet/tippets depending on the fly or flies used, and adds splits
accordingly.

Said chucking large heavy flies is a lot easier as well as putting in
a cast mend.

It's an interesting technique, and something I would like to experiment
with.
-tom- Hide quoted text -

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f
For large weighted fly take the 40 lb mono back to the center of the
reel spool. Sooner or later your not really fly fishing.

"BJ Conner" wrote in message
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On Nov 26, 1:13 pm, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
"rw" wrote in message

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Tom Nakashima wrote:
I read an article over the holidays about a technique of cutting the
taper of a double taper line when nymph fishing. The reasons were to
have
better line management control, and the ability to throw large
weighted
flies with ease, plus a nice drift. The article stated that since
dry-fly
presentation wasn't a concern, the taper was useless.

I've never even considered cutting the taper off a line, and wondering
if
anyone has done that when nymphing?
-tom

There might be something to it.

Level lines used to be common years ago, mainly, I thought, because
they
were cheap. More expensive tapered lines were easier to cast. Maybe you
can manage the line better with a level line. It's possible, but it's
been
so long since I've used one that I have no clue.

I don't buy the throwing "large weighted flies with ease" argument.

If you give it a try I'd be interested to know it comes out.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Actually I do have a DT line that needs to be reversed, thought
about cutting the taper off the one side and experimenting.

The article is drifting for steelhead in rivers.
For chucking large weighted flies, the anglers makes his own
leaders and starts with a 30" piece of 40 lb test butt section, jointed
with
the now taperless line by nailknot. He then adds a 12" piece of 20 lb.
connected with a double uni-knot. Then bloodknots on his long 10 lb.
tippet/tippets depending on the fly or flies used, and adds splits
accordingly.

Said chucking large heavy flies is a lot easier as well as putting in
a cast mend.

It's an interesting technique, and something I would like to experiment
with.
-tom- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

f
For large weighted fly take the 40 lb mono back to the center of the
reel spool. Sooner or later your not really fly fishing.

So where do you draw the line?
-tom

On Nov 26, 4:31 pm, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
"Wayne Knight" wrote in message

It sounds like cutting the taper off a DT line would make it act as a level
line. Now wondering if Gary Borger thought it was a stupid thing when he
wrote about it in his "Nymphing" book on the section of casting heavy
weighted flies?

Just because Mr. Borger wrote instead of Mr. Me, does not mean it's
not a stupid thing to do. Unless of course one is in the industry and
his inventory of DT fly lines needs to be reduced. Its' not a new
idea, both Steve and I mentioned level taper fly lines.

"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
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On Nov 26, 4:31 pm, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
"Wayne Knight" wrote in message

It sounds like cutting the taper off a DT line would make it act as a
level
line. Now wondering if Gary Borger thought it was a stupid thing when he
wrote about it in his "Nymphing" book on the section of casting heavy
weighted flies?

Just because Mr. Borger wrote instead of Mr. Me, does not mean it's
not a stupid thing to do. Unless of course one is in the industry and
his inventory of DT fly lines needs to be reduced. Its' not a new
idea, both Steve and I mentioned level taper fly lines.

So what's a level taper fly line?
-tom

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in
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I read an article over the holidays about a technique of cutting the
taper of a double taper line when nymph fishing. The reasons were to
have better line management control, and the ability to throw large
weighted flies with ease, plus a nice drift. The article stated that
since dry-fly presentation wasn't a concern, the taper was useless.

I've never even considered cutting the taper off a line, and wondering
if anyone has done that when nymphing?
-tom





Haven't found a reason to do it, regardless of how much chuck and duck I
do. A heavy-weighted fly, or a ton of split shot, tends to take the line
out of the picture in any case, and I haven't noticed any problems with
line control or drift once the fly is in the water.

Some times, these guys need to say stuff just to have something to write
about.


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