OT Vista

On Apr 3, 12:52 am, Charlie Choc
wrote:
On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:44:06 -0500, wrote:
OK, I'm curious as to your opinion as to why most folks would want to
upgrade to Vista.

If you are happy and productive with XP on a current machine, no particular
reason - unless you want to switch to the 64bit version, which has better memory
management than the 64 bit version of XP. If you get a new machine with Vista on
it and the applications and devices you are using are currently supported by
their vendors, then there is no particular reason *not* to run Vista. If you are
waiting for the next OS from MS, be prepared to wait longer than you think, and
be advised that it will likely be more similar to, and have more in common with,
Vista than XP.
--
Charlie...http://www.chocphoto.com

That may well be so Charlie. If any of the linux distributions solve
a few of their problems with periphery drivers, then they will blow
windows away for many applications. Very many people, a large
proportion of the public sector, and many businesses here have already
changed to various linux distributions. For some of the high end
peripheral hardware, and most "normal" business applications, it is
just better. Less useful for many personal applications though because
of the driver problems associated with a lot of "personal" hardware,
and
the difficulty in getteing some "old" applications to run on it.

Although all in all, the linux software palette is greather than the
windows palette. It is also no longer just a "geek" system.

This may be of interest;

http://www.linux-xp.com/

http://www.altlinux.com/

TL
MC

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:52:59 -0400, Charlie Choc
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:44:06 -0500, wrote:

OK, I'm curious as to your opinion as to why most folks would want to
upgrade to Vista.

If you are happy and productive with XP on a current machine, no particular
reason - unless you want to switch to the 64bit version, which has better memory
management than the 64 bit version of XP. If you get a new machine with Vista on
it and the applications and devices you are using are currently supported by
their vendors, then there is no particular reason *not* to run Vista. If you are
waiting for the next OS from MS, be prepared to wait longer than you think, and
be advised that it will likely be more similar to, and have more in common with,
Vista than XP.

I'm not waiting, nor would I wait, for any particular OS from either MS
or Apple. I look at PCs for personal use as no more or less than a
tool. If they are doing the job I intend them to do, I see no reason to
upgrade simply to upgrade, i.e., without any practical benefit. I was
just curious as to your opinion as to any benefit in upgrading. I've
used Apples and IBM compatible/Windows since about '83 (I still have a
couple of Apple Lisas, one of which was sorta-directly from one of the
Steves - I can't remember which - a long story, IAC), and now use
(mainly) Windows machines for purely practical reasons: they do all I
ask at a price point that can't be touched by Apple machines.

Thanks,
R

Larry L wrote:


..... but a bit of a brag on the returns from my investment, the kid called
this morning with the news that he was accepted into Phi Beta Kappa, not a
huge deal, but they Have had a couple fairly accomplished members since
1776, so
.... I be proud, ( and glad he takes after his mom, not his Okie bumpkin,
dimly lit, old man )



there is no better investment...no, there may be nothing better... than
seeing your child achieve beyond your own station, abilities, and
expectations. it is a huge deal, and all three of you are justifiably
proud in the accomplishment. it didn't happen without significant
effort by each of you. congratulations.

jeff

"rw" wrote in message
m...

With third-party virtualization software (Parallels or VMware Fusion)
you'd be able to run all of them at the same time.

And it generally works pretty well except on my Magellan software.
Magellan's software is not apple os compatible but the software doesn't
recognize the USB port where the GPS unit is plugged in.

"Larry L" wrote in message
...

I'd like to try a Mac someday
... but, as mentioned, my shopping made it seem beyond my needs/means just
to stick in the travel trailer

Apple allows students and/or their families to purchase one desktop and one
laptop per year at a slightly discounted price. You mentioned the macbook
pro but the entry level macbook is a pretty decent machine and more than
capable of handling the tasks you mention for around a grand with the
discount.

Congrats on the kid's accomplishments. You have every right to be proud.

On 2-Apr-2008, "Larry L" wrote:

I've been shopping for a laptop for my summer travels and it's hard to
find
anything that doesn't have Vista as the OS ( I looked at the MacBook Pro
but
don't want to spend that much to send e-mail and store a few photos
...besides Apple people always seem to be a bit weird :-)

Is Vista as bad, buggy, and machine clogging, as I've heard ...i.e.
pretty
damn bad? I've don't know anyone, personally, that is using it.

Vista - yes it seems to be as bad - as everyone tells me
I just bought a Toshiba Portege - pricey but real light and I was "lucky"
to find one model w Windows XP

Fred

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:49:19 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

I've been shopping for a laptop for my summer travels and it's hard to find
anything that doesn't have Vista as the OS ( I looked at the MacBook Pro but
don't want to spend that much to send e-mail and store a few photos
...besides Apple people always seem to be a bit weird :-)

Is Vista as bad, buggy, and machine clogging, as I've heard ...i.e. pretty
damn bad? I've don't know anyone, personally, that is using it.


I have vista. I would rather have ME instead of this crap OS. Before
you buy, please note that vista comes in several versions, and each
version is available in 32 and 64 bit. Most of your current software
will not work, or will have trouble working correctly.

You can start here to see some of the problems - these are questions
asked by end users.
http://www.vistaforums.com/Forum/Forum9-1.aspx?Update=1
--
Calling an Illegal Alien an "Undocumented Worker" is like calling a
Crack Dealer an "Unlicensed Pharmacist"

On Apr 2, 12:36*pm, "Larry L" wrote:
"rw" wrote



If you'd bought an Intel-based Mac (it would be more than $446) you'd be
able to run XP AND Vista, in addition to OS X, which is superior to both
of them.

Bundled software (Boot Camp) lets you boot into any of those OS. You could
also run Linux, and probably some other OS I'm not aware of.

With third-party virtualization software (Parallels or VMware Fusion)
you'd be able to run all of them at the same time.

I'd like to try a Mac someday
*... but, as mentioned, my shopping made it seem beyond my needs/means just
to stick in the travel trailer

*... we're still spending plenty each year getting the kid higherly
eddakated at the fancy universery
....so I drive a '92 Dodge and buy used laptops

*..... but a bit of a brag on the returns from my investment, the kid called
this morning with the news that he was accepted into Phi Beta Kappa, *not a
huge deal, but they Have had a couple fairly accomplished members since
1776, so
*.... I be proud, ( and glad he takes after his mom, not his Okie bumpkin,
dimly lit, old man )

Hey, it IS a big deal. Good going.
Dave

On Apr 2, 1:02 pm, rw wrote:
Larry L wrote:
...besides Apple people always seem to be a bit weird :-)

Yeah, we're weird. We like software that actually works. :-)

My wife's MacBook looked nice and I was seriously contemplating a
switch (after all, it's Unix now), but she upgraded the OS (leopard-
tiger or tiger-leopard or whatever), and now the machine is sucking
wind from the bloated software, and sometimes crashes. And her new map
software won't even recognize the GPS that's plugged in, despite
claims that the Mac does not need any special drivers. I don't
understand the mac geeks who think that Apple can do no wrong.

I'll stick to Linux. OpenSuse right now, but I'll probably switch to
Ubuntu this summer.

Jon.
PS: And the one-button thing STILL drives me crazy...users aren't that
dumb! They CAN intelligently use more than one button! (BTW, my wife
didn't want her free iPod when she got her Mac, so I've been playing
with it. The too-overloaded one button thing drives me crazy there,
too. Maybe its me who's wierd...)

On 2008-04-03, wrote:

claims that the Mac does not need any special drivers. I don't
understand the mac geeks who think that Apple can do no wrong.

After paying through the nose, they'll never 'fess to it.

PS: And the one-button thing STILL drives me crazy...users aren't that
dumb!

Apple: proof that ignorance is bliss

nb