OT In defense of pirates ...

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:43:14 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

Caca snipped.

Arm every merchant vessel with a 50 cal. machine gun along with a
qualified gunner. When the pirates come into the effective range of
that .50 (about 2000 yards), a short burst should easily dissuade
anyone from being a threat. You could also have another gunner with a
50 cal M107 (probably what the Seals used in rescuing our captain).
If they insist, the gunner could cut the small craft in half with such
a weapon and the M107 gunner could pick and choose the threats. Works
for me. Leave the ships alone and the pirates can live as long as
they want. Really simple when you think about it.

And, there are plenty of mercenaries world-wide that would/could do
the job.

Perhaps since your stock portfolio is down and you're an old sea dog warrior
with some SuperWaders, maybe you could pick up some coin to help you through
your dotage...

Here's an old seal trick - if you run out of bull-yets...throw your ball at
them...or slap 'em with a mackerel...

HTH,
R

Dave

On Apr 13, 7:56*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:43:14 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

Caca snipped.

Arm every merchant vessel with a 50 cal. machine gun along with a
qualified gunner. *When the pirates come into the effective range of
that .50 (about 2000 yards), a short burst should easily dissuade
anyone from being a threat. *You could also have another gunner with a
50 cal M107 (probably what the Seals used in rescuing our captain).
If they insist, the gunner could cut the small craft in half with such
a weapon and the M107 gunner could pick and choose the threats. *Works
for me. *Leave the ships alone and the pirates can live as long as
they want. *Really simple when you think about it.

And, there are plenty of mercenaries world-wide that would/could do
the job. *

Perhaps since your stock portfolio is down and you're an old sea dog warrior
with some SuperWaders, maybe you could pick up some coin to help you through
your dotage...

Here's an old seal trick - if you run out of bull-yets...throw your ball at
them...or slap 'em with a mackerel...

HTH,
R



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I guess I think light. The right 3 guys firing 22 hornets would seem
enough, except maybe for the man firing thru the bow porthole.

Dave

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:10:37 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:

On Apr 13, 7:56*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:43:14 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

Caca snipped.

Arm every merchant vessel with a 50 cal. machine gun along with a
qualified gunner. *When the pirates come into the effective range of
that .50 (about 2000 yards), a short burst should easily dissuade
anyone from being a threat. *You could also have another gunner with a
50 cal M107 (probably what the Seals used in rescuing our captain).
If they insist, the gunner could cut the small craft in half with such
a weapon and the M107 gunner could pick and choose the threats. *Works
for me. *Leave the ships alone and the pirates can live as long as
they want. *Really simple when you think about it.

And, there are plenty of mercenaries world-wide that would/could do
the job. *

Perhaps since your stock portfolio is down and you're an old sea dog warrior
with some SuperWaders, maybe you could pick up some coin to help you through
your dotage...

Here's an old seal trick - if you run out of bull-yets...throw your ball at
them...or slap 'em with a mackerel...

HTH,
R



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I guess I think light.

I'd agree with that...

The right 3 guys firing 22 hornets would seem
enough,

Yeah, Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman...hey, no need to be sexist in this
comic-book idea of yours...

except maybe for the man firing thru the bow porthole.

Oh, there's a fourth guy firing forward...that'll make all the difference in the
world, then...


....and on the downside, your plan consists of having four guys with varmint
rifles trying to defend over an acre of floating, unarmored target in the middle
of the ocean against a potential swarm of small boats of unknown armoring crewed
by unknowns with unknown weapons...

....yeah, there's no chance such a bit of military genius might result in a major
mess, complete with civilian crews being dragged around offshore right off of
Mogadishu like ****ing teasers and made into chum...

Geez, how is it you never made Lord High Admiral, there, Sarge...?

HTH,
R

Dave

On Apr 14, 5:44*am, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:10:37 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:
On Apr 13, 7:56*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:43:14 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

Caca snipped.

Arm every merchant vessel with a 50 cal. machine gun along with a
qualified gunner. *When the pirates come into the effective range of
that .50 (about 2000 yards), a short burst should easily dissuade
anyone from being a threat. *You could also have another gunner with a
50 cal M107 (probably what the Seals used in rescuing our captain).
If they insist, the gunner could cut the small craft in half with such
a weapon and the M107 gunner could pick and choose the threats. *Works
for me. *Leave the ships alone and the pirates can live as long as
they want. *Really simple when you think about it.

And, there are plenty of mercenaries world-wide that would/could do
the job. *

Perhaps since your stock portfolio is down and you're an old sea dog warrior
with some SuperWaders, maybe you could pick up some coin to help you through
your dotage...

Here's an old seal trick - if you run out of bull-yets...throw your ball at
them...or slap 'em with a mackerel...

HTH,
R

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I guess I think light.

I'd agree with that...

The right 3 guys firing 22 hornets would seem
enough,

Yeah, Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman...hey, no need to be sexist in this
comic-book idea of yours...

except maybe for the man firing thru the bow porthole.

Oh, there's a fourth guy firing forward...that'll make all the difference in the
world, then...

...and on the downside, your plan consists of having four guys with varmint
rifles trying to defend over an acre of floating, unarmored target in the middle
of the ocean against a potential swarm of small boats of unknown armoring crewed
by unknowns with unknown weapons...

...yeah, there's no chance such a bit of military genius might result in a major
mess, complete with civilian crews being dragged around offshore right off of
Mogadishu like ****ing teasers and made into chum...

Geez, how is it you never made Lord High Admiral, there, Sarge...?

HTH,
R





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I do not know what the Seal shooters used. I was giving my amature and
dated opinion on an appropriate sniper round, given the info on the
distance (close) and conditions. I am aware that the .223 center fire
is a better wounding round and has wind issues at longer distances,
etc.. But considering all the curved hard surfaces on that lifeboat I
thought the .223 more likely to bounce around within the skull and be
less likely to exit and find the captain Obviously there are lots of
competent folk who feel that the .223 is not appropriate as a general
take out sniper round. But it is very widely used around the world,
for both military and police. The VC and the NVA used it .

Dave

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:39:53 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Another side of the story:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann..._b_155147.html

A few questions:

1. If Obama is such a smart, savvy guy, why didn't he know what this guy on the
huffingtonpost "knows"...?

2. If he didn't know, why not?

3. If he did know, why did he order his military to kill these poor starving
freedom-fighting members of the Somali Coast Guard Auxiliary?

4. Whatever he knew, why in the hell is the President of the United States
issuing press briefs bragging about how he personally gave the go ahead for the
take-down...?

HTH,
R

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Another side of the story:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann..._b_155147.html

A few questions:
stupid **** snipped

Damn, the antenna on your tinfoil hood is *smokin'* this morning !

I hope you remembered to put an oven mitt on top of your head before
you put your hood on this morning. Antenna gets that worked up you
could burn a hole on your pate.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 07:25:47 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Another side of the story:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann..._b_155147.html

A few questions:
stupid **** snipped

Damn, the antenna on your tinfoil hood is *smokin'* this morning !

I hope you remembered to put an oven mitt on top of your head before
you put your hood on this morning. Antenna gets that worked up you
could burn a hole on your pate.

I could be wrapped in layers of tin foil separated by oven mitts, but that still
leaves a few questions, based upon your own cite above and recent claims:

1. If Obama is such a smart, savvy guy, why didn't he know what this guy on the
huffingtonpost "knows"...?

2. If he didn't know, why not?

3. If he did know, why did he order his military to kill these poor starving
freedom-fighting members of the Somali Coast Guard Auxiliary?

4. Whatever he knew, why in the hell is the President of the United States
issuing press briefs bragging about how he personally gave the go ahead for the
take-down...?

HTH,
R

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
wrote:
A few questions:
stupid **** snipped
Damn, the antenna on your tinfoil hood is *smokin'* this morning !

I hope you remembered to put an oven mitt on top of your head before
you put your hood on this morning. Antenna gets that worked up you
could burn a hole on your pate.

I could be wrapped in layers of tin foil separated by oven mitts, but that still
leaves a few questions, based upon your own cite above and recent claims:

**** *STILL* too stupid to merit a response snipped

You'd think that with the antenna shaking like a dog passing a peach
pit there'd be something better than silliness going on there at the
Uh oh, tee-hee, tsk, tsk, tsk desk this morning. Is that all you got
today Rick Bean Deancounter ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 07:39:08 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
wrote:
A few questions:
stupid **** snipped
Damn, the antenna on your tinfoil hood is *smokin'* this morning !

I hope you remembered to put an oven mitt on top of your head before
you put your hood on this morning. Antenna gets that worked up you
could burn a hole on your pate.

I could be wrapped in layers of tin foil separated by oven mitts, but that still
leaves a few questions, based upon your own cite above and recent claims:

**** *STILL* too stupid to merit a response snipped

You'd think that with the antenna shaking like a dog passing a peach
pit there'd be something better than silliness going on there at the
Uh oh, tee-hee, tsk, tsk, tsk desk this morning. Is that all you got
today Rick Bean Deancounter ?

So, anyway, tin foil, oven mitts, dogs passing peach pits, tee-hee desk, etc.,
etc., etc., right, gotcha...so that just leaves those few still-unanswered
questions:

1. If Obama is such a smart, savvy guy, why didn't he know what this guy on the
huffingtonpost "knows"...?

2. If he didn't know, why not?

3. If he did know, why did he order his military to kill these poor starving
freedom-fighting members of the Somali Coast Guard Auxiliary?

4. Whatever he knew, why in the hell is the President of the United States
issuing press briefs bragging about how he personally gave the go ahead for the
take-down...?

HTH,
R

On Apr 14, 4:20*am, wrote:

4. *Whatever he knew, why in the hell is the President of the United States
issuing press briefs bragging about how he personally gave the go ahead for the
take-down...? *

HTH,
R

You keep repeating this Keenardo like it is true. In DC terms Obama
has said very little about his role. That is the inside media take, so
naturally you put up a lighter than air show stating the opposite.
Thats lower division poly sci propaganda class ****. You shoulda hung
around for the grad seminar and you would be a real asset to Whackjob
Incorporated.

Rick if you are going to do a limp imitation of Shawn Hannity, you
need to read up on the masterminds of big lie propaganda, maybe
Goebbels, one of the less strident North Koreans, or one of the
traitorous NeoCon Trotskyite professors. Or maybe see if Rush's dealer
is still selling those hygrade "pain killers." This **** is so
pathetically "I hate this man almost as much as I hated the Kennedy's"
even juxtaposed against the nauseous "cute little pirate,"
"misunderstood freedom fighter," "lets cuddle" stuff.

Or maybe you think Obama should fly out to the USS Bainbridge or
declare victory from the deck of a aircraft carrier hovering off the
California coast?

I could write your confusion off to "cabin fever" but you live in the
South .

Dave
They were killed because they were pirates threatening to kill a
kidnapped American citizen. No big deal. No big victory for Obama. Get
used to it: Its just what a competent government does to protect its
citizens from real threats.