Good books on bass brains?

I'm looking for some good books on how a bass thinks. You know,
something along the lines of how they hunt for food, where they are
during different weather conditions, all of those good things.

Does anyone have any good recommendations or which books are a waste
of time? Again, I'm really looking to learn more how the fish thinks,
specifically large mouths in Florida.

Thanks...
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lab~rat :-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

Knowing Bass by Keith Jones is right along those lines.
lab~rat :-) wrote:
I'm looking for some good books on how a bass thinks. You know,
something along the lines of how they hunt for food, where they are
during different weather conditions, all of those good things.

Does anyone have any good recommendations or which books are a waste
of time? Again, I'm really looking to learn more how the fish thinks,
specifically large mouths in Florida.

Thanks...
--
lab~rat :-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

Chris
Take a look at Trophy Bass An Angler's Guide by Larry Larsen when your
not on the water. Technically bass don't think; they react
instinctively to stimuli.




Chris Rennert wrote:
Knowing Bass by Keith Jones is right along those lines.
lab~rat :-) wrote:
I'm looking for some good books on how a bass thinks. You know,
something along the lines of how they hunt for food, where they are
during different weather conditions, all of those good things.

Does anyone have any good recommendations or which books are a waste
of time? Again, I'm really looking to learn more how the fish thinks,
specifically large mouths in Florida.

Thanks...
--
lab~rat :-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

Correct - bass brains aren't developed enough to think, only to survive.

Warren
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http://www.warrenwolk.com


"fishtale" wrote in message
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Chris
Take a look at Trophy Bass An Angler's Guide by Larry Larsen when your
not on the water. Technically bass don't think; they react
instinctively to stimuli.




Chris Rennert wrote:
Knowing Bass by Keith Jones is right along those lines.
lab~rat :-) wrote:
I'm looking for some good books on how a bass thinks. You know,
something along the lines of how they hunt for food, where they are
during different weather conditions, all of those good things.

Does anyone have any good recommendations or which books are a waste
of time? Again, I'm really looking to learn more how the fish thinks,
specifically large mouths in Florida.

Thanks...
--
lab~rat :-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

Well that could be said about any living organism including humans
right? Instincts are based on experience, so technically we are all
zombies reacting to stimuli.
Video footage has shown bass stop a instant before striking a lure, why
they do it,they do not know, but they believe a decision is being made
and it could be 50/50 at that point (to strike or to not strike). When
you present a bait a bass makes a decision to pursue it or not to pursue
it. During the pursuit I am sure the bass is not worrying about what he
is going to eat next week, or if he will winter in 30 or 40 feet of
water this year, maybe this is where your facts are coming from.

If we followed your logic the phrase "Fishing Pressure" wouldn't exist,
because they don't think and instincts would be static, therefore (and
there exceptions) we could just constantly drop the same bait in front
of these fish over and over and they will eat it no matter what.

Fishtale, you instinctively react to getting out of the way of a car in
the middle of the road, not because you were genetically predisposed to
that "instinct", it was learned. I guarantee you at 2 years old if your
mommy didn't grab your hand and scream at you, you would probably be
road kill.

I will almost guarantee you had that book in your lap when you wrote
this post and wrote it down verbatim. And unfortunately by just reading
and never "doing" you really have no experience or independent
thoughts to share. Let me know when you read "Blackhawk Down" I'm
looking for helicopter pilot lessons.

Chris
fishtale wrote:
Chris
Take a look at Trophy Bass An Angler's Guide by Larry Larsen when your
not on the water. Technically bass don't think; they react
instinctively to stimuli.




Chris Rennert wrote:
Knowing Bass by Keith Jones is right along those lines.
lab~rat :-) wrote:
I'm looking for some good books on how a bass thinks. You know,
something along the lines of how they hunt for food, where they are
during different weather conditions, all of those good things.

Does anyone have any good recommendations or which books are a waste
of time? Again, I'm really looking to learn more how the fish thinks,
specifically large mouths in Florida.

Thanks...
--
lab~rat :-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

Chris Rennert wrote:
Instincts are based on experience,


No, they are not. Instincts are genetically implanted.

From the American Heritage Dictionary... "An inborn pattern of behavior
that is characteristic of a species and is often a response to specific
environmental stimuli"


Conditioned responses are based on experience.




Fishing pressure does alter the instincts of a bass population, because
those with instincts that make them easy catches tend to have shorter
life spans, and contribute less and less to the gene pool over a period
of time.

My knee-jerk reaction is to agree with anything Rich writes on this subject.

Is that automatic response conditioned or instinct?

Joe

"RichZ" wrote in message
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No, they are not. Instincts are genetically implanted.
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Interestingly enough, here is an article about Bass behavior.

http://www.outdoorlife.com/outdoor/f...629086,00.html
"Joe Haubenreich" wrote in
message . ..
My knee-jerk reaction is to agree with anything Rich writes on this
subject.

Is that automatic response conditioned or instinct?

Joe

"RichZ" wrote in message
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No, they are not. Instincts are genetically implanted.
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and yet from another article.

snip))) 22. Do bass remember things more than a few minutes? You bet.
That's how they function. They repeat behaviors and form habits. They go
back to places where they remember that they caught prey to try again. They
return a year later to where they spawned. They can find springs or
sanctuaries in hot ponds every summer. They even seem to learn to avoid
specific lures and lure colors.

But, bass only learn and remember things of immediate importance to them.
They apparently can't learn abstract relationships. They learn to eat things
they catch and that taste good. They learn to flee things that lunge at
them, or loom near them suddenly. We know this is learning, because they can
learn to ignore things that make sudden noises but that are not really
threats, like people swimming, stomping, or hammering in marinas

I do know that bass think that Dave losing a bet is funnier than me
losing a bet and cooperate with me a bit more on those days :-)



........

Rich,
I'm not going to disagree with a textbook definition, but doesn't this
just come down to semantics? These instincts are based on experience of
"a" bass, maybe not the particular bass we are currently fishing for.
(Really, this reply is for the sake of argument, that definition wasn't
even part of my thought process before your post)
Do we fully understand the timetable of the evolutionary process,
meaning how long before strict catch and release will make it nearly
impossible to catch a bass?

"is often a response to specific environmental stimuli" - What
constitutes an environmental stimuli? We (as fisherman) are now
environmental stimuli to bass, so this gene pool will pass down their
experiences so there will be a generation that will eventually be inborn
with new patterns based on those experiences. In my mind I would think
it would be fair to say (depending on beliefs ) that evolution can
change inborn behavioral patterns??

Again evolution and time frames were never in my original post, so I
don't want to pass it off like this part of the argument was what I was
trying to say the whole time, because I have had to change my argument
slightly based on new facts :-).

Chris

RichZ wrote:
Chris Rennert wrote:
Instincts are based on experience,


No, they are not. Instincts are genetically implanted.

From the American Heritage Dictionary... "An inborn pattern of behavior
that is characteristic of a species and is often a response to specific
environmental stimuli"


Conditioned responses are based on experience.




Fishing pressure does alter the instincts of a bass population, because
those with instincts that make them easy catches tend to have shorter
life spans, and contribute less and less to the gene pool over a period
of time.