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I'm looking for some good books on how a bass thinks. You know,
something along the lines of how they hunt for food, where they are during different weather conditions, all of those good things. Does anyone have any good recommendations or which books are a waste of time? Again, I'm really looking to learn more how the fish thinks, specifically large mouths in Florida. Thanks... -- lab~rat :-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere? |
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Knowing Bass by Keith Jones is right along those lines.
lab~rat :-) wrote: I'm looking for some good books on how a bass thinks. You know, something along the lines of how they hunt for food, where they are during different weather conditions, all of those good things. Does anyone have any good recommendations or which books are a waste of time? Again, I'm really looking to learn more how the fish thinks, specifically large mouths in Florida. Thanks... -- lab~rat :-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere? |
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Chris
Take a look at Trophy Bass An Angler's Guide by Larry Larsen when your not on the water. Technically bass don't think; they react instinctively to stimuli. Chris Rennert wrote: Knowing Bass by Keith Jones is right along those lines. lab~rat :-) wrote: I'm looking for some good books on how a bass thinks. You know, something along the lines of how they hunt for food, where they are during different weather conditions, all of those good things. Does anyone have any good recommendations or which books are a waste of time? Again, I'm really looking to learn more how the fish thinks, specifically large mouths in Florida. Thanks... -- lab~rat :-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere? |
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Correct - bass brains aren't developed enough to think, only to survive.
Warren -- http://www.warrenwolk.com "fishtale" wrote in message oups.com... Chris Take a look at Trophy Bass An Angler's Guide by Larry Larsen when your not on the water. Technically bass don't think; they react instinctively to stimuli. Chris Rennert wrote: Knowing Bass by Keith Jones is right along those lines. lab~rat :-) wrote: I'm looking for some good books on how a bass thinks. You know, something along the lines of how they hunt for food, where they are during different weather conditions, all of those good things. Does anyone have any good recommendations or which books are a waste of time? Again, I'm really looking to learn more how the fish thinks, specifically large mouths in Florida. Thanks... -- lab~rat :-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere? |
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Well that could be said about any living organism including humans
right? Instincts are based on experience, so technically we are all zombies reacting to stimuli. Video footage has shown bass stop a instant before striking a lure, why they do it,they do not know, but they believe a decision is being made and it could be 50/50 at that point (to strike or to not strike). When you present a bait a bass makes a decision to pursue it or not to pursue it. During the pursuit I am sure the bass is not worrying about what he is going to eat next week, or if he will winter in 30 or 40 feet of water this year, maybe this is where your facts are coming from. If we followed your logic the phrase "Fishing Pressure" wouldn't exist, because they don't think and instincts would be static, therefore (and there exceptions) we could just constantly drop the same bait in front of these fish over and over and they will eat it no matter what. Fishtale, you instinctively react to getting out of the way of a car in the middle of the road, not because you were genetically predisposed to that "instinct", it was learned. I guarantee you at 2 years old if your mommy didn't grab your hand and scream at you, you would probably be road kill. I will almost guarantee you had that book in your lap when you wrote this post and wrote it down verbatim. And unfortunately by just reading and never "doing" you really have no experience or independent thoughts to share. Let me know when you read "Blackhawk Down" I'm looking for helicopter pilot lessons. Chris fishtale wrote: Chris Take a look at Trophy Bass An Angler's Guide by Larry Larsen when your not on the water. Technically bass don't think; they react instinctively to stimuli. Chris Rennert wrote: Knowing Bass by Keith Jones is right along those lines. lab~rat :-) wrote: I'm looking for some good books on how a bass thinks. You know, something along the lines of how they hunt for food, where they are during different weather conditions, all of those good things. Does anyone have any good recommendations or which books are a waste of time? Again, I'm really looking to learn more how the fish thinks, specifically large mouths in Florida. Thanks... -- lab~rat :-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere? |
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Chris Rennert wrote:
Instincts are based on experience, No, they are not. Instincts are genetically implanted. From the American Heritage Dictionary... "An inborn pattern of behavior that is characteristic of a species and is often a response to specific environmental stimuli" Conditioned responses are based on experience. Fishing pressure does alter the instincts of a bass population, because those with instincts that make them easy catches tend to have shorter life spans, and contribute less and less to the gene pool over a period of time. |
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My knee-jerk reaction is to agree with anything Rich writes on this subject.
Is that automatic response conditioned or instinct? Joe "RichZ" wrote in message ... snip No, they are not. Instincts are genetically implanted. snip |
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Rich,
I'm not going to disagree with a textbook definition, but doesn't this just come down to semantics? These instincts are based on experience of "a" bass, maybe not the particular bass we are currently fishing for. (Really, this reply is for the sake of argument, that definition wasn't even part of my thought process before your post) Do we fully understand the timetable of the evolutionary process, meaning how long before strict catch and release will make it nearly impossible to catch a bass? "is often a response to specific environmental stimuli" - What constitutes an environmental stimuli? We (as fisherman) are now environmental stimuli to bass, so this gene pool will pass down their experiences so there will be a generation that will eventually be inborn with new patterns based on those experiences. In my mind I would think it would be fair to say (depending on beliefs ) that evolution can change inborn behavioral patterns?? Again evolution and time frames were never in my original post, so I don't want to pass it off like this part of the argument was what I was trying to say the whole time, because I have had to change my argument slightly based on new facts :-). Chris RichZ wrote: Chris Rennert wrote: Instincts are based on experience, No, they are not. Instincts are genetically implanted. From the American Heritage Dictionary... "An inborn pattern of behavior that is characteristic of a species and is often a response to specific environmental stimuli" Conditioned responses are based on experience. Fishing pressure does alter the instincts of a bass population, because those with instincts that make them easy catches tend to have shorter life spans, and contribute less and less to the gene pool over a period of time. |
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On 23 Aug 2006 09:47:28 -0700, "fishtale"
puked: Chris Take a look at Trophy Bass An Angler's Guide by Larry Larsen when your not on the water. Technically bass don't think; they react instinctively to stimuli. If that's the case, I'm interested in how they react. I'm relatively new to bass fishing, but I'm pretty sure that there's a lot to learn with regard to fish physiology and whatnot that could lend itself to more successful fishing. Sure, I know I'm overthinking this, but I'd rather learn than guess... Chris Rennert wrote: Knowing Bass by Keith Jones is right along those lines. lab~rat :-) wrote: I'm looking for some good books on how a bass thinks. You know, something along the lines of how they hunt for food, where they are during different weather conditions, all of those good things. Does anyone have any good recommendations or which books are a waste of time? Again, I'm really looking to learn more how the fish thinks, specifically large mouths in Florida. Thanks... -- lab~rat :-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere? -- lab~rat :-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere? |
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