Best Rod Guides?

Ok, so I've got about a dozen St Croic Premier rods laying around. They all
have one thing in common - the eyes &/or tip tops are messed up. I'm going
to keep my good buddy Steve Huber busy for a week or so this winter by
having him rewrap them all with top-quality guides. So, what are the best &
how much do they cost?

Funny, I love the Premiers but the guides just stink. I've never had a
blank or any other part of the rods let me down, but c'mon St Croix!

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

Check out the Recoils?

"go-bassn" wrote in message
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Ok, so I've got about a dozen St Croic Premier rods laying around. They
all have one thing in common - the eyes &/or tip tops are messed up. I'm
going to keep my good buddy Steve Huber busy for a week or so this winter
by having him rewrap them all with top-quality guides. So, what are the
best & how much do they cost?

Funny, I love the Premiers but the guides just stink. I've never had a
blank or any other part of the rods let me down, but c'mon St Croix!

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

Fill me in dude, I know nothing.

WW
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"Eric Ryder" wrote in message
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Check out the Recoils?

"go-bassn" wrote in message
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Ok, so I've got about a dozen St Croic Premier rods laying around. They
all have one thing in common - the eyes &/or tip tops are messed up. I'm
going to keep my good buddy Steve Huber busy for a week or so this winter
by having him rewrap them all with top-quality guides. So, what are the
best & how much do they cost?

Funny, I love the Premiers but the guides just stink. I've never had a
blank or any other part of the rods let me down, but c'mon St Croix!

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

http://www.rec.com/rec/web/html/products.html

I really don't think your problem is with the guide itself, but rather the
way it's wrapped to the rod. A single foot guide will be more prone to come
undone than a double foot style, but wrapped correctly it still shouldn't
come off the blank.

I really couldn't tell a difference between anyones guides until Steve built
that spinning/drop shot rod for me. He used the Titanium SiC guides and
they're sweet. I really don't think I personally need those strong guides,
so I settled with the Alconite guides on my others. (Plus, they're cheaper)
I'm sure if Steve rewraps your rods... you won't have any problems.

Also, I'm sure that the epoxy plays a big part of it too. I like these
Bionic Blade rods from BPS, but after awhile the epoxy coating around the
wraps start chipping off. I just recoat them as needed...


"go-bassn" wrote in message
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Fill me in dude, I know nothing.

WW
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"Eric Ryder" wrote in message
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Check out the Recoils?

"go-bassn" wrote in message
news
Ok, so I've got about a dozen St Croic Premier rods laying around.
They
all have one thing in common - the eyes &/or tip tops are messed up.
I'm
going to keep my good buddy Steve Huber busy for a week or so this
winter
by having him rewrap them all with top-quality guides. So, what are
the
best & how much do they cost?

Funny, I love the Premiers but the guides just stink. I've never had a
blank or any other part of the rods let me down, but c'mon St Croix!

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

The hype:
Pure titanium, no inserts to crack chip fade or peel!

Llightest weight, not quite highest cost.

Easy to wrap.

The blues:
Tiptops are not preferred, use alconite, etc.

Hard to get http://www.merricktackle.com/gear.htm (wholesale only iirc)
there is a pic one page down.

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Fill me in dude, I know nothing.

WW
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"Eric Ryder" wrote in message
...
Check out the Recoils?

"go-bassn" wrote in message
news
Ok, so I've got about a dozen St Croic Premier rods laying around. They
all have one thing in common - the eyes &/or tip tops are messed up.
I'm going to keep my good buddy Steve Huber busy for a week or so this
winter by having him rewrap them all with top-quality guides. So, what
are the best & how much do they cost?

Funny, I love the Premiers but the guides just stink. I've never had a
blank or any other part of the rods let me down, but c'mon St Croix!

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

Where can I get them? I cant find them in that link...

WW

--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"Eric Ryder" wrote in message
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The hype:
Pure titanium, no inserts to crack chip fade or peel!

Llightest weight, not quite highest cost.

Easy to wrap.

The blues:
Tiptops are not preferred, use alconite, etc.

Hard to get http://www.merricktackle.com/gear.htm (wholesale only iirc)
there is a pic one page down.

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Fill me in dude, I know nothing.

WW
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"Eric Ryder" wrote in message
...
Check out the Recoils?

"go-bassn" wrote in message
news Ok, so I've got about a dozen St Croic Premier rods laying around.
They all have one thing in common - the eyes &/or tip tops are messed
up. I'm going to keep my good buddy Steve Huber busy for a week or so
this winter by having him rewrap them all with top-quality guides. So,
what are the best & how much do they cost?

Funny, I love the Premiers but the guides just stink. I've never had a
blank or any other part of the rods let me down, but c'mon St Croix!

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

Jann's Netcraft www.jannsnetcraft.com has a good supply of rod building
supplies


Git-R-Done

ok, here's the horses mouth for the recoils:
http://www.rec.com/rec/web/html/recoilspin.html I sure hope you have a
wallet crobar

might want to check out the Fuji New Concept Series TATSG guides:
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.... Gr5XDqQLvpAe_
same link: http://makeashorterlink.com/?U23832B79


some more recoil discussion:
http://www.rodbuilding.org/search.ph...0&fldsubject=1


"go-bassn" wrote in message
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Where can I get them? I cant find them in that link...

WW

--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"Eric Ryder" wrote in message
...
The hype:
Pure titanium, no inserts to crack chip fade or peel!

Llightest weight, not quite highest cost.

Easy to wrap.

The blues:
Tiptops are not preferred, use alconite, etc.

Hard to get http://www.merricktackle.com/gear.htm (wholesale only iirc)
there is a pic one page down.

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Fill me in dude, I know nothing.

WW
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"Eric Ryder" wrote in message
...
Check out the Recoils?

"go-bassn" wrote in message
news Ok, so I've got about a dozen St Croic Premier rods laying around.
They all have one thing in common - the eyes &/or tip tops are messed
up. I'm going to keep my good buddy Steve Huber busy for a week or so
this winter by having him rewrap them all with top-quality guides.
So, what are the best & how much do they cost?

Funny, I love the Premiers but the guides just stink. I've never had
a blank or any other part of the rods let me down, but c'mon St Croix!

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Eric Ryder" wrote in message
...
Check out the Recoils?

I built a rod for a guy that specified Recoils. I'm not impressed with
them. They are expensive, look cheap and I don't think that they offer any
particular advantage other that the "Cool Factor" of "Look, I can bend my
guides and they snap back!"

Personally, give me Fuji Alconite or Fuji SIC, that's what's on all of my
rods.

Warren, if you want, send me those rods this winter and I'll fix them for
you. If I remember correctly, St. Croix uses Fuji Alconite on their Premier
series of rods. They're good guides, but occasionally "poop occurs."
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

I usually use Fuji SiC guides which run about $3 to $9 or more each
depending upon the exact part number. Your rodbuilder will help you select
the best guide for the money and use. If you are replacing some of the
guides on a rod, but not all of them, you will have to match the new guides
to the existing guides fairly closely if you want the rod to continue to
work well.

You could also visit some of the rod builders web sites to give yourself an
education. Try http://www.customtackle.com and http://www.mudhole.com/ for
starters. You might also visit the Fuji website.

Have you thought about learning how to install guides yourself? If you are
handy and have some patience it's not that difficult to get started. I took
up rod building almost two years ago and, with some help from the vendors,
some books, and people in this newsgroup I have gotten pretty good at it. I
must say I really enjoy boating fish on a rod that I built myself. You don't
really save much money, but you have more fun within the confines of the
sport and you get exactly what you want in a rod.


"go-bassn" wrote in message
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Ok, so I've got about a dozen St Croic Premier rods laying around. They
all
have one thing in common - the eyes &/or tip tops are messed up. I'm
going
to keep my good buddy Steve Huber busy for a week or so this winter by
having him rewrap them all with top-quality guides. So, what are the best
&
how much do they cost?

Funny, I love the Premiers but the guides just stink. I've never had a
blank or any other part of the rods let me down, but c'mon St Croix!

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions