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Old February 23rd, 2005, 04:09 AM
Ronnie Garrison
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This is from this week's Inside Line:

Team Yamamoto pro Bob Lester visited the Indiana Boat Show
this weekend. Bob reported on these new trends:

"More than anything else, everything is red. Hooks have been
getting red for some time now, but snaps, split rings,
swivels are red, red, red! Every spinnerbait I saw on the
show floor had red stuff - red skirt strands, small red
front blades, red eyes, red hooks. I think red's become an
overkill and it just may backfire. Too much red may become a
bass repellant by the end of 2005," mused Lester.
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Old February 23rd, 2005, 04:33 AM
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"Ronnie Garrison" wrote in message
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This is from this week's Inside Line:

Team Yamamoto pro Bob Lester visited the Indiana Boat Show
this weekend. Bob reported on these new trends:

"More than anything else, everything is red. Hooks have been
getting red for some time now, but snaps, split rings,
swivels are red, red, red! Every spinnerbait I saw on the
show floor had red stuff - red skirt strands, small red
front blades, red eyes, red hooks. I think red's become an
overkill and it just may backfire. Too much red may become a
bass repellant by the end of 2005," mused Lester.


I might have to agree with that statement.
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Old February 23rd, 2005, 05:32 AM
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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:
"Ronnie Garrison" wrote in message
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This is from this week's Inside Line:

Team Yamamoto pro Bob Lester visited the Indiana Boat Show
this weekend. Bob reported on these new trends:

"More than anything else, everything is red.


Next, year, Purple will be the 'new red'.
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Old February 23rd, 2005, 10:07 AM
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Old February 23rd, 2005, 01:36 PM
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E. Carl Speros wrote:

I agree with Roland Martin; "Any color will work as long as it's
chartreuse"


The first time I heard something like that was when Tom Mann said "Any
worm color will work as long as it is black" back in the 1970s. That was
during the height of his Jelly Worm craze. He knew he was making those
flavors and colors to catch fishermen, not just fish.
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Old February 23rd, 2005, 02:34 PM
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I thought that was a Henry Ford saying...


"Ronnie Garrison" wrote in message
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E. Carl Speros wrote:

I agree with Roland Martin; "Any color will work as long as it's
chartreuse"


The first time I heard something like that was when Tom Mann said "Any
worm color will work as long as it is black" back in the 1970s. That was
during the height of his Jelly Worm craze. He knew he was making those
flavors and colors to catch fishermen, not just fish.



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Old February 24th, 2005, 04:32 AM
RichZ
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Ronnie Garrison wrote:
E. Carl Speros wrote:

I agree with Roland Martin; "Any color will work as long as it's
chartreuse"


The first time I heard something like that was when Tom Mann said "Any
worm color will work as long as it is black" back in the 1970s. That was
during the height of his Jelly Worm craze. He knew he was making those
flavors and colors to catch fishermen, not just fish.


Actually, I seem to recall Tom saying BLUE. I recall it vividly because
he said it TO me, and at the time I did not own and had never caught a
fish on a BLUE worm. In fact, at the time, I carried only two colors of
worm -- three if you count grape and black grape as separate colors. The
other was motor oil. "This is Eufaula, son. You can catch bass on any
color worm you own, as long as you own blue worms." He did admit in the
same conversation though, that his most famous Eufaula catch (a 15 bass
limit, that if memory serves, weighed 137 pounds) was caught on two
lures -- a Hopkins spoon and a strawberry (RED) Jelly worm.
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Old February 24th, 2005, 09:01 AM
Dwayne E. Cooper
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:36:08 -0500, Ronnie Garrison
wrote:

The first time I heard something like that was when Tom Mann said "Any
worm color will work as long as it is black" back in the 1970s. That was
during the height of his Jelly Worm craze. He knew he was making those
flavors and colors to catch fishermen, not just fish.


Heh heh...not to nick-pick...but I think it was "Any worm color
will work as long as it is blue."

My favorite Mann's worm was a 6" Mann's Jelly worm in
"blackberry." My 2nd favorite was a 6" grape. My 3rd favorite was a
7" blueberry worm which was the worm that I was told Mann used a
ton...especially fishing deep brush piles down on Eufaula. I remember
having strawberry, grape, watermelon, motoroil, and all the worms that
had the firetails. I also remember going thru a ton of those flavored
aerosol cans that Mann's used to make. Those aerosol cans were a
heckuva lot easier than making up a batch of anise oil for our
plastic....and smelled a heckuva lot better!

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Old February 23rd, 2005, 03:14 PM
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One good thing about some red hooks - the red paint easily comes off and
underneath they are gold (something new for the bass to see :-)
Cheers,
Nikolay
P.S. And RichZ, with all my respect man, did you absolutely have to tell
everyone ?! (lol)

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, RichZ wrote:

Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:
"Ronnie Garrison" wrote in message
. ..

This is from this week's Inside Line:

Team Yamamoto pro Bob Lester visited the Indiana Boat Show
this weekend. Bob reported on these new trends:

"More than anything else, everything is red.


Next, year, Purple will be the 'new red'.

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Old February 23rd, 2005, 08:47 PM
Chris Rennert
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:32:48 -0500, RichZ wrote:

Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:
"Ronnie Garrison" wrote in message
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This is from this week's Inside Line:

Team Yamamoto pro Bob Lester visited the Indiana Boat Show
this weekend. Bob reported on these new trends:

"More than anything else, everything is red.


Next, year, Purple will be the 'new red'.

No disrespect to anyone, but I think we are to easily going against the fact
that years of research and development have gone into how bass (and other
fish) react to colors. In controlled studies done by Doug Hannon he has
clearly shown that bass are attracted to red, and strike aggressively.
This was done back in the early 80's I believe (I will double check my
source). I agree they may have gone a little far jumping on the band
wagon because there is a buck to be made when a craze is started, but to
discount years of research because a tackle manufacturer went overboard I
believe is a mistake.

The media could definitely make purple the color of the year, if they wanted
to. And people would catch fish on purple because that is all they would
be throwing, they would figure because of the purple stand on the jig that
is why that fish bit. But Gary Klien said it best, if there is a tree in
an area that holds a 5lb fish, Denny Brauer will come by with a black/blue
jig and catch it, or Rick Clunn would come by with a crankbait or buzzbait
and catch it, or Dean Rojas with Kermit , etc etc. I think the real point
is that fisherman give way to much credit to the bait they are using
(color, brand, etc) and not enough credit to themselves for presenting the
bait in the right area at the right time.

There are definitely times when size, color, weight , and presentation matter,
but If you fish a bait with confidence and present it confidently you are
going to catch more fish. Once that part is settled, then the subdtleties
come into play and maybe the red (or purple) hook make a small difference
because of fishing pressure, weather change, rising water, I think you get
the point.

I just have a hard time discrediting research done by a respected person in
the field of fisheries biology (Doug Hannon).

Bass fishing is so competitive now, that every single little edge you can get
should be exercised. Anglers are doing their homework, and are able to
understand the fish better. Anything I can do to make my presentation a
little different without affecting its effectiveness I will do. So far
red hasn't hurt me, and neither have scents, as far as I know anyway.

Chris


 




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