When is a whip

a pole?

In other words what defines a whip as a whip and a pole as a pole?

Is it based on length, or line attachment...or other factors? Or a
combination of things?

TIA

"caroline" wrote in message
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a pole?

In other words what defines a whip as a whip and a pole as a pole?

Is it based on length, or line attachment...or other factors? Or a
combination of things?


AFAIK a whip is quite short (up to 6m), is telescopic (rather than put-over)
and has a very soft tip with a eye on the end that acts as a buffer rather
than being elasticated through the inside of the pole...

Poles are generally put-over joints (except the top couple of sections -the
"top kit") and are quite stiff along the entire length, the elastic running
through the centre of the pole buffers while the pole remains pretty much
straight. Poles can be bought at lengths over 16m these days.

I may be corrected, but that is my understanding...


Matt

"caroline" wrote in message
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a pole?

In other words what defines a whip as a whip and a pole as a pole?

Is it based on length, or line attachment...or other factors? Or a
combination of things?

TIA

In short, to the last question. Yes!!

OK read on. While this is not always the case. A pole tends to be broken
down when landing a fish, until an manageable length is reached to net the
fish.

A whip tends to be fished to hand and the fish swung in. The whip or short
pole tends to be the method of choice for catching small silver fish that
are fairly close to the bank. You are likely from time to time to come
across a carp or large tench. Then you will have a fight on your hands with
a small whip. This is where a margin pole comes into play, they are much
more robust in their handling of larger fish.

Whips and Margin poles tend to be up to 9 metres long.

Poles in general tend to be from 9 - 16 metres long (there are longer
floating poles) these poles enable the angler to reach features that bit
further out, but can of course be fished at any length within that range.

HTH

"Ergo" wrote
"caroline" wrote
a pole?

In other words what defines a whip as a whip and a pole as a pole?

Is it based on length, or line attachment...or other factors? Or a
combination of things?

TIA

In short, to the last question. Yes!!

OK read on. While this is not always the case. A pole tends to be broken
down when landing a fish, until an manageable length is reached to net the
fish.

A whip tends to be fished to hand and the fish swung in. The whip or short
pole tends to be the method of choice for catching small silver fish that
are fairly close to the bank. You are likely from time to time to come
across a carp or large tench. Then you will have a fight on your hands
with a small whip. This is where a margin pole comes into play, they are
much more robust in their handling of larger fish.

Sorry, will teach me to read replies properly before posting ;o)

So, following on to the reply I've just posted, and after having re-read
your reply properly....perhaps what I have is a margin pole???

TBH it doesn't matter to me...but I was always of the school that whips had
an eye at the top for attaching line, and poles used elastic....which is why
my latest buy confuses me....but learning to use elastic is all good fun,
and education for the day when I graduate up to my first 'proper' pole ;o)

In message , caroline
writes
a pole?

In other words what defines a whip as a whip and a pole as a pole?

Is it based on length, or line attachment...or other factors? Or a
combination of things?

IMO, a whip is a short pole, fished to-hand, which does not use elastic.
Lots of them are purpose-built telescopic poles, but when I got my 11m
for quite some time I left the spare top 3 with a flick tip and no
elastic, and I'd be quite happy to describe that as a whip.

--
Steve Walker

Thanks all for your replies...


So I have a 6m telescopic....but, it uses elastic, bungs etc.

I was advised at the time of purchase to run a no.8 elastic through it,
which I have done...

At the weekend I christened it with a good fight from a rainbow trout (just
over 2½lb) on sweetcorn....sweet or what ;o)
Followed by a second trout later in the day, still on sweetcorn but giving
less of a fight...

Was great to see the elastic working really hard as it was my first direct
adventure with elastic

So is it a whip or a pole?

"caroline" wrote in message
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Thanks all for your replies...


So I have a 6m telescopic....but, it uses elastic, bungs etc.

I was advised at the time of purchase to run a no.8 elastic through it,
which I have done...

At the weekend I christened it with a good fight from a rainbow trout
(just over 2½lb) on sweetcorn....sweet or what ;o)
Followed by a second trout later in the day, still on sweetcorn but giving
less of a fight...

Was great to see the elastic working really hard as it was my first direct
adventure with elastic

So is it a whip or a pole?

I would say you have a short pole.
Whips are not designed to be elasticated, but many can be...

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"Matt (IS Team)" wrote in message
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"caroline" wrote in message
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Thanks all for your replies...


So I have a 6m telescopic....but, it uses elastic, bungs etc.

I was advised at the time of purchase to run a no.8 elastic through it,
which I have done...

At the weekend I christened it with a good fight from a rainbow trout
(just over 2½lb) on sweetcorn....sweet or what ;o)
Followed by a second trout later in the day, still on sweetcorn but
giving less of a fight...

Was great to see the elastic working really hard as it was my first
direct adventure with elastic

So is it a whip or a pole?

I would say you have a short pole.
Whips are not designed to be elasticated, but many can be...


That is just as succinct as I was going to be Matt

But catching trout eh!

--
Don't go chasing crocks of gold,
or you will miss seeing the rainbows

www.eric-gales.co.uk
Skype Ergo01

"Ergo" wrote
"Matt (IS Team)" wrote

"caroline" wrote

Thanks all for your replies...


So I have a 6m telescopic....but, it uses elastic, bungs etc.

I was advised at the time of purchase to run a no.8 elastic through it,
which I have done...

At the weekend I christened it with a good fight from a rainbow trout
(just over 2½lb) on sweetcorn....sweet or what ;o)
Followed by a second trout later in the day, still on sweetcorn but
giving less of a fight...

Was great to see the elastic working really hard as it was my first
direct adventure with elastic

So is it a whip or a pole?

I would say you have a short pole.
Whips are not designed to be elasticated, but many can be...


That is just as succinct as I was going to be Matt

But catching trout eh!

LOL...yes, the OH was getting very miffed, because he was specifically out
for tench with his fancy kit and he kept pulling rainbows in too.
I was there with my new whip/pole and just happy to be catching fish...any
fish....regardless of what it is

But I'm reliably informed that catching trout on sweetcorn on a whip/pole is
not a common occurence...??? can anyone elaborate? The Oh just tells me its
good and I did well...but is he humouring me?
FWIW I'm not a fishing person, but the OH is a fishing freek and a fish farm
manager...so I picked up a dirt cheap whip (4m) a few years ago, to
accompany him occasionally, and this year I picked up a dirt cheap pole/whip
with a bit more length and very light to boot. This fishing lark intrigues
me, but I don't have the pasion to be out all the time. I was drawn to
poles after watching a few fishing programmes featuring them, and it was
suggested I start with a cheap whip to see if I still liked the idea....well
if I continue to fish, and spend money n bigger/better gear then I just know
I'm going to stick with the pole-idea...definitely my kind of thing, and a
lot less faffing than using reels etc... ;o)