fishing line

Will 17 lb mono cast and lay on the spool better than a 12 lb mono of the
same brand.By casting better I mean less backlashes[ not distance ] .The
reason I ask is that I respooled several reels that had 17 lb on them and
dropped down to 12 lb [same brand ] .I had a busy day picking out
birdnests of gigantic proportions..The reels that weren't respooled worked
like always......
I don't really understand why line size would make that much of a
difference but???

IMO the brand of mono makes a difference, 12lb Ande is great but above
that it's like wire.. 17 lb Bass Pro Shops Excel casts real good..

It just seems like common sense that line dia. and weight will have much to
do with casting distance and spool speed. As you decrease line weight & dia.
your spool speed would increase, thus the increase in backlasking. Increase
the spool tension to accomodate for this.

And AJH, How could a brand make a difference? IMHO, that is a personal
preference, and has nothing to do with line dia. or dynamics

--
David Norton

"AJH" wrote in message
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IMO the brand of mono makes a difference, 12lb Ande is great but above
that it's like wire.. 17 lb Bass Pro Shops Excel casts real good..

It's my personal observation/opinion, I have tried Ande 15 and it's just
too stiff while 17 lb BPS Excel is not much different than 12 or 14 lb
Excel. But you know how opinions are ..

Brands make a big difference. I use Maxima green for leaders. Is very
limp. Other brands may be stiff for the same pound test.
Bill

"David Norton" wrote in message
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It just seems like common sense that line dia. and weight will have much
to
do with casting distance and spool speed. As you decrease line weight &
dia.
your spool speed would increase, thus the increase in backlasking.
Increase
the spool tension to accomodate for this.

And AJH, How could a brand make a difference? IMHO, that is a personal
preference, and has nothing to do with line dia. or dynamics

--
David Norton

"AJH" wrote in message
...
IMO the brand of mono makes a difference, 12lb Ande is great but above
that it's like wire.. 17 lb Bass Pro Shops Excel casts real good..

"Ken Blevins" wrote in message
...
Will 17 lb mono cast and lay on the spool better than a 12 lb mono of
the
same brand.By casting better I mean less backlashes[ not distance ] .The
reason I ask is that I respooled several reels that had 17 lb on them
and
dropped down to 12 lb [same brand ] .I had a busy day picking out
birdnests of gigantic proportions..The reels that weren't respooled
worked
like always......
I don't really understand why line size would make that much of a
difference but???

The heavier line is easier to pick out the back lashes.

On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:29:47 -0500, "David Norton"
wrote:

It just seems like common sense that line dia. and weight will have much to
do with casting distance and spool speed. As you decrease line weight & dia.
your spool speed would increase, thus the increase in backlasking. Increase
the spool tension to accomodate for this.

And AJH, How could a brand make a difference? IMHO, that is a personal
preference, and has nothing to do with line dia. or dynamics


I don't know about common sence but the larger diameter line would
come off the reel faster. Larger diameter may be stiffer but small
diameter would hold more line on the spool and would take less
revolutions of the spool for the same length of line to come off.
Thus the spool would spin slower reducing backlash.

Or maybe i am looking at it wrong.


Richard

Richard R. wrote:


Or maybe i am looking at it wrong.


Richard

Actually, you are, to a certain extent. Got to consider the dynamics of
what's involved. as anything traveling on momentum will do, the lure is
slowing down almost from the instant you release your thumb. There's
little change in lure speed in the first third or half of the distance
the lure travels, but it is happening. and it happens faster farther
into the cast.

The thicker line will remove more of the diameter of the spool as line
pays out, and will need to spin the spool faster to keep up. Spinning it
faster increases the force exerted by the centrifugal brakes, which in
turn help more to accommodate for an inexpert or simply unused thumb
more than they would with a thinner line and the consequent larger
diameter/slower speed of the spool at the same point in the cast.

It should also be noted that a narrower spool also increases the
effectiveness of the centrifugal brakes for the same reason.

What does all that mean in laymen terms.I understand that as line pays out
the spool spins faster but are you saying that smaller diameter line should
have more overruns because the spool is turning faster than that of a
larger diameter line and more attention to "thumb" control is needed .
Ken

"RichZ" wrote in message
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Richard R. wrote:


Or maybe i am looking at it wrong.


Richard

Actually, you are, to a certain extent. Got to consider the dynamics of
what's involved. as anything traveling on momentum will do, the lure is
slowing down almost from the instant you release your thumb. There's
little change in lure speed in the first third or half of the distance the
lure travels, but it is happening. and it happens faster farther into the
cast.

The thicker line will remove more of the diameter of the spool as line
pays out, and will need to spin the spool faster to keep up. Spinning it
faster increases the force exerted by the centrifugal brakes, which in
turn help more to accommodate for an inexpert or simply unused thumb more
than they would with a thinner line and the consequent larger
diameter/slower speed of the spool at the same point in the cast.

It should also be noted that a narrower spool also increases the
effectiveness of the centrifugal brakes for the same reason.

Ken Blevins wrote:
are you saying that smaller diameter line should
have more overruns because the spool is turning faster than that of a
larger diameter line and more attention to "thumb" control is needed .

Exactly the opposite. The spool is spinning SLOWER with the lighter
line, which results in less braking force from the centrifugal brakes,
and thus more need for an educated thumb.