worth thinking about

regardless of your specific stand on current 'hot button' issues, if you
honestly believe in the system our founding fathers designed this is worth
listening to and thinking about

http://tinyurl.com/mno5u


I haven't been able to find a full transcript of the speech yet, but I'm
looking

Larry L wrote:
regardless of your specific stand on current 'hot button' issues, if you
honestly believe in the system our founding fathers designed this is worth
listening to and thinking about

http://tinyurl.com/mno5u


I haven't been able to find a full transcript of the speech yet, but I'm
looking

It's here
http://www.appellateacademy.org/even...rks_110705.pdf

Worth reading, but the people who need to read it will never suspect
what it means.

"BJ Conner" wrote in message
ups.com...
It's here
http://www.appellateacademy.org/even...rks_110705.pdf

Worth reading, but the people who need to read it will never suspect
what it means.

Nope, this ain't the speech she gave at Georgetown Univ., on March 9, 2006;
as what you linked us to is dated Nov. 7, 2005.

Op

BJ Conner wrote
Worth reading, but the people who need to read it will never suspect
what it means.

OK. I'm game. Who are you talking about and what does it (the article)
really mean? (I read it)
--

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remove the 'la' to email me

"Fiddleaway" wrote in message
news:01c6448c$a15a55c0$05ff1345@micron...
BJ Conner wrote
Worth reading, but the people who need to read it will never suspect
what it means.

OK. I'm game. Who are you talking about and what does it (the article)
really mean? (I read it)
--

-dnc-

I suspect that it would better be asked, what part of "judicial
independence" don't you understand?

Op

Mr. Opus McDopus wrote in article
...

"Fiddleaway" wrote in message
news:01c6448c$a15a55c0$05ff1345@micron...
BJ Conner wrote
Worth reading, but the people who need to read it will never suspect
what it means.

OK. I'm game. Who are you talking about and what does it (the
article)
really mean? (I read it)
--

-dnc-

I suspect that it would better be asked, what part of "judicial
independence" don't you understand?

Well...now there's a couple a questions ... which article are we going to
talk about?

And I think it's pretty clear from his tone that he sees beyond the obvious
to some deeper level not obvious to those of us with merely a public
education.

With regard to the article he cited the questions still stand.

Who needs to read it? and What does it really mean?
--

-dnc-

On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:48:20 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

regardless of your specific stand on current 'hot button' issues, if you
honestly believe in the system our founding fathers designed this is worth
listening to and thinking about

http://tinyurl.com/mno5u


I haven't been able to find a full transcript of the speech yet, but I'm
looking


Wonderful speech.
--

r.bc: vixen
Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher, etc..
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.
Really.

On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:48:20 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

regardless of your specific stand on current 'hot button' issues, if you
honestly believe in the system our founding fathers designed this is worth
listening to and thinking about

http://tinyurl.com/mno5u


I haven't been able to find a full transcript of the speech yet, but I'm
looking

I think the speech itself is going to be hard to find - no recordings of
any kind. FWIW, I've heard the NPR person has already caught flack for
"misrepresenting" what O'Connor said by taking selected parts of the
speech and cobbling it together with commentary to put a slant on it.
That said, I don't think you really understand what the founding fathers
desired or what they intended to design, and given your views as
expressed on ROFF, I'd suspect that you'd freak out if such a system
were implemented as they intended. Assuming that some here are right
about Bush and Co. and an "imperial Presidency" that doesn't answer to
the "riff-raff," I think you'd find it closer to what they had in mind
than not.

So-called (modern) conservatives generally champion laws that don't
offend the Constitution but can, and often do, offend the individual,
whereas so-called (modern) liberals generally champion laws that make
particular individuals feel great but offend the Constitution. As
examples, guns (because the 2nd is clear and combined with legislative
intent, it is ironclad), most "recreational" drugs, and abortion
(because the Constitution is silent directly on-point) should be
legislated, not controlled by the Supreme Court. IMO, they should be
Federally legal, with caveats, generally without input from or notice by
the Supreme Court (form of law excepted, should the case arise) - malum
prohibitum vs malum in se, unless the former crosses the line in such a
way that the latter would be a foreseeable result, i.e., drunk driving
in an unsafe (and uninsured, just to get it all messy) vehicle. OTOH, a
lot of what is put forth a "free" press and a separation of church
and state is just plain wrong - as examples, there is no language, and
no intent, to allow the press to run amok, nor any prohibition against,
for example, prayer in schools or religious symbols at public buildings.

TC,
R

wrote:
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:48:20 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

regardless of your specific stand on current 'hot button' issues, if you
honestly believe in the system our founding fathers designed this is worth
listening to and thinking about

http://tinyurl.com/mno5u


I haven't been able to find a full transcript of the speech yet, but I'm
looking

I think the speech itself is going to be hard to find - no recordings of
any kind.

Someone already posted a link to the speech. It was the same
speech she gave back in November of last year.

FWIW, I've heard the NPR person has already caught flack for
"misrepresenting" what O'Connor said by taking selected parts of the
speech and cobbling it together with commentary to put a slant on it.

That's nonsense, the only thing Nina Totenberg can be accused
of in that piece is naming names where O'Connor didn't. There
was no "misrepresentation" or "slant".

The GOP got bitch slapped, and rightly so, they're the party
constantly complaining about the left-wing judiciary legislating
from the bench.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:46:08 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:48:20 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

regardless of your specific stand on current 'hot button' issues, if you
honestly believe in the system our founding fathers designed this is worth
listening to and thinking about

http://tinyurl.com/mno5u


I haven't been able to find a full transcript of the speech yet, but I'm
looking

I think the speech itself is going to be hard to find - no recordings of
any kind.

Someone already posted a link to the speech. It was the same
speech she gave back in November of last year.

I don't think it is.

FWIW, I've heard the NPR person has already caught flack for
"misrepresenting" what O'Connor said by taking selected parts of the
speech and cobbling it together with commentary to put a slant on it.

That's nonsense, the only thing Nina Totenberg can be accused
of in that piece is naming names where O'Connor didn't. There
was no "misrepresentation" or "slant".

Oh, OK...so O'Connor's opinion of a story about her own speech is
nonsense? Well, good luck with that and all...

The GOP got bitch slapped, and rightly so, they're the party
constantly complaining about the left-wing judiciary legislating
from the bench.

Um, if the speech posted in the link is the speech you think "bitch
slapped" the GOP, you might actually want to read the speech at the link
posted.

TC,
R