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Old April 5th, 2006, 03:41 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Howdy,

Ran across this on another forum. It's a paper about the discovery
of a "new" species of wild trout in Mexico in an Atlantic drainage:
http://www.americanfishes.com/conchoswhitepaper.pdf

For more background on wild trout in Mexico, check out this article:
https://webspace.utexas.edu/deanhend...ican_trout.pdf

Fascinating stuff.


Chuck Vance (also check out Tomelleri's illustrations of the
trout on the Americanfishes.com website)
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Old April 5th, 2006, 04:18 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On 4/5/06 10:41 AM, in article , "Conan The
Librarian" wrote:

Howdy,

Ran across this on another forum. It's a paper about the discovery
of a "new" species of wild trout in Mexico in an Atlantic drainage:
http://www.americanfishes.com/conchoswhitepaper.pdf

For more background on wild trout in Mexico, check out this article:
https://webspace.utexas.edu/deanhend...exican_trout.p
df

Fascinating stuff.


Looks like it- thanks for the pointers, Chuck.

Bill

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Old April 5th, 2006, 05:43 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On 4/5/06 10:41 AM, in article , "Conan The
Librarian" wrote:

Howdy,

Ran across this on another forum. It's a paper about the discovery
of a "new" species of wild trout in Mexico in an Atlantic drainage:
http://www.americanfishes.com/conchoswhitepaper.pdf

For more background on wild trout in Mexico, check out this article:
https://webspace.utexas.edu/deanhend...exican_trout.p
df


I love, by the way, that the lead author's last name is "Hendrickson". :-)

Bill

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Old April 6th, 2006, 12:59 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Conan The Librarian wrote:
Howdy,

Ran across this on another forum. It's a paper about the discovery
of a "new" species of wild trout in Mexico in an Atlantic drainage:
http://www.americanfishes.com/conchoswhitepaper.pdf

For more background on wild trout in Mexico, check out this article:
https://webspace.utexas.edu/deanhend...ican_trout.pdf


From an *Atlantic* drainage. WOW.

Thanks for the links. The best single source on Mexican trout I had was
the americanfishes.com page

http://www.americanfishes.com/mexico/

but the Hendrickson et al. article blows it away.....

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Old April 6th, 2006, 12:45 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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JR wrote:

Conan The Librarian wrote:

Howdy,

Ran across this on another forum. It's a paper about the discovery
of a "new" species of wild trout in Mexico in an Atlantic drainage:
http://www.americanfishes.com/conchoswhitepaper.pdf

For more background on wild trout in Mexico, check out this
article:
https://webspace.utexas.edu/deanhend...ican_trout.pdf


From an *Atlantic* drainage. WOW.


Yep. It was well-established that there were trout in Baja, but
this is big news.

Thanks for the links. The best single source on Mexican trout I had was
the americanfishes.com page

http://www.americanfishes.com/mexico/

but the Hendrickson et al. article blows it away.....


Absolutely. I had run across the americanfishes.com stuff a year so
so ago as a result of someone (here maybe?) posting a link to the
illustrations, but this article does a great job of synthesizing all of
the previous research.

FWIW, my interest in all this is somewhat selfish. SWMBO and I may
wind up retiring to Mexico, and it would sure be nice to be able to
chase some wild trout there. But there's a lot of work to be done if
those fish are to survive.


Chuck Vance
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Old April 6th, 2006, 05:36 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Conan The Librarian wrote:

FWIW, my interest in all this is somewhat selfish. SWMBO and I may
wind up retiring to Mexico, and it would sure be nice to be able to
chase some wild trout there. But there's a lot of work to be done if
those fish are to survive.


I understand that fishing is being forbidden in some drainages and that
access to others can be quite arduous. The isolation of remaining
populations may be their best protection. As everywhere, stocking of
introduced trout is increasingly a problem.

Don't know if you've run across this:

http://www.melingadventures.com/trout.php

JR

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Old April 6th, 2006, 05:49 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On 4/6/06 12:36 PM, in article , "JR"
wrote:

Conan The Librarian wrote:

FWIW, my interest in all this is somewhat selfish. SWMBO and I may
wind up retiring to Mexico, and it would sure be nice to be able to
chase some wild trout there. But there's a lot of work to be done if
those fish are to survive.


I understand that fishing is being forbidden in some drainages and that
access to others can be quite arduous. The isolation of remaining
populations may be their best protection. As everywhere, stocking of
introduced trout is increasingly a problem.

Don't know if you've run across this:

http://www.melingadventures.com/trout.php

Now there's a trip I'd be interested in. Spent several days in San Felipe
many years ago and have many fond memories.

I have family in the mountains of northern Oaxaca. It would appear that
trout do not exist that far south?

Bill

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Old April 6th, 2006, 06:11 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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JR wrote:

Conan The Librarian wrote:

FWIW, my interest in all this is somewhat selfish. SWMBO and I may
wind up retiring to Mexico, and it would sure be nice to be able to
chase some wild trout there. But there's a lot of work to be done if
those fish are to survive.


I understand that fishing is being forbidden in some drainages and that
access to others can be quite arduous. The isolation of remaining
populations may be their best protection. As everywhere, stocking of
introduced trout is increasingly a problem.


Yep, the Mexican government has been stocking rainbows for many
years, but only relatively recently has it been seen as a tourism
industry.

And I think you're dead-on with your observation about isolation
being the best protection. From the reading I've done, it appears that
the only places with surviving populations of wild fish are those places
that are too rugged to farm, cut lumber or homestead.

Don't know if you've run across this:

http://www.melingadventures.com/trout.php


Thanks very much for the link. That looks like exactly the sort of
thing that I'm looking for. From the reading I've done, you don't just
go to one of those rivers and start hiking around on your own. (Not
unless you want to risk being shot.)

Now if I can just find some trout fishing in the state of
Guanajuato, within driving distance of San Miguel de Allende.


Chuck Vance
 




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