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June 04, 2006
Fisherman dies in Junction Pool

By Melissa Rennie
Times Herald-Record

Roscoe - Justin Everrett, a 44-year-old New Jersey man, drowned about
4:30 p.m. yesterday in the turbulent waters of Junction Pool in Roscoe,
where he had been fly-fishing with four friends.
State police said the tragedy occurred when Everrett fell as he was
wading across the pool to join his friends.
Trooper Michael Park explained that where the Willowemoc and Beaverkill
rivers meet at the pool, "The water swirls around, and it's dug a pit
there."
Trooper Michael Schroeder said that while people often cross either
river safely by backing away from the pool first, it appears that
Everrett attempted to wade across too near the pool.
When he fell, the current pulled him under.
Everrett and his four lifetime buddies, Joseph Brice and Dennis Talal
of New Jersey and Richard Dingiloo and Charles Schilerro of New York,
were staying at the Roscoe Motel for a weekend of fly-fishing before
things went horribly wrong.
The four men told state troopers at the scene that they saw Everrett
go under. He came back up and yelled for help. As they moved to help
him, he went under again and never came back up.
Members of the Sullivan County dive team, volunteer ambulance corps
and New York state troopers responded to the scene.
The dive team retrieved Everrett's body from the pool, and medical
personnel administered CPR before transporting him to Catskill Regional
Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead at 6:28 p.m.
Senior Investigator Mike Orrego said Everrett was wearing chest
waders. "Once they fill up, it's like wearing an anchor," he said.
"There was something morbid about this, about people there. We had to
keep chasing them away. Here this man just lost his life and all they
wanted to do was get back to fishing," he added.


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I was about 6 pools downstream from the Junction Pool when this happened.
The water was big. I limited myself to mid-thigh wading, and knee-level
would have been much safer.

FWIW, everyone raved about the Roscoe emergency crew's response time.


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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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I was about 6 pools downstream from the Junction Pool when this happened.
The water was big. I limited myself to mid-thigh wading, and knee-level
would have been much safer.

FWIW, everyone raved about the Roscoe emergency crew's response time.


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Sorry to hear about Justin Everrett. I also wear chest waders and it scares
the heck out of me when fishing fast rivers.
The test that was done on waders here in roff really caught my attention.
I'm tempted to order one of those SOS Inflatable Floatation Belt Pack.
http://www.orvis.com/store/product_c...&feature_id=17
-tom


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"Tom Nakashima" wrote in
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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I was about 6 pools downstream from the Junction Pool when this
happened.
The water was big. I limited myself to mid-thigh wading, and
knee-level would have been much safer.

FWIW, everyone raved about the Roscoe emergency crew's response time.


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Scott
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Sorry to hear about Justin Everrett. I also wear chest waders and it
scares the heck out of me when fishing fast rivers.
The test that was done on waders here in roff really caught my
attention. I'm tempted to order one of those SOS Inflatable Floatation
Belt Pack.
http://www.orvis.com/store/product_c...dir_id=758&gro
up_id=10758&cat_id=10769&subcat_id=10770&feature_i d=17 -tom




I know there's the age-old debate about whether full waders impede motion
in the water. My own opinion is that they can't make things easier, and
that there is the potential that the wearer can get pushed about like a
boat with a drift sock.

I suspect, but can't be sure, that the biggest contributing factors to
many such tragic incidents are poor swimming skills in conjunction with
simple panic. I might look into the SOSpenders, eventually. I looked at
a wading staff as a c-note well spent on personal safety. I am concerned
that these inflatable PFD's might get in my way, though.



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Old June 5th, 2006, 09:34 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Scott Seidman wrote:

... I looked at
a wading staff as a c-note well spent on personal safety. ...


A hundred bucks for a wading staff ?!!? That sounds
excessive for a wading staff unless it comes with
built-in radar, wet bar, liquor cabinet and humidor. ;-)

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Ken Fortenberry wrote in news:nz0hg.16563
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Scott Seidman wrote:

... I looked at
a wading staff as a c-note well spent on personal safety. ...


A hundred bucks for a wading staff ?!!? That sounds
excessive for a wading staff unless it comes with
built-in radar, wet bar, liquor cabinet and humidor. ;-)


You misunderstand, Ken. That wading staff is a staff of four guys who
stand around me making sure I don't fall!! The hundred bucks is really a
hundred bucks an hour!

Actually, that hundred bucks (or close to it anyway) was for the thicker
Folstaff. I like having a collapsible staff that I don't have to worry
about toting along or tripping over. It deploys rapidly when I need it.
There is some tendency for the segments to get a little "stuck" when you
want to collapse it, as the tolerance on the fit is pretty tight, but
once you learn the trick of rolling the stuck joint on your knee, the
problem becomes less of a problem. The important thing is that the
three-cushion ****-around happens when you're already out of trouble, and
the thing deploys real fast when you need it.

Simms makes a nice one now, but deployment seems a tad less automatic
than the Folstaff, and it didn't exist when I bought mine. If I were
buying one today, I would do a serious A-B comparison before buying
either.

I've taken one good bath with the Folstaff on hand, at Penn's, but I'm
pretty sure it's saved me from three or four more--and probably a dozen
or more if you count those wading situations that I should have avoided
in the first place. The real trick is being sure not to use the staff to
wade yourself INTO trouble.

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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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"Tom Nakashima" wrote in
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...
I was about 6 pools downstream from the Junction Pool when this
happened.
The water was big. I limited myself to mid-thigh wading, and
knee-level would have been much safer.

FWIW, everyone raved about the Roscoe emergency crew's response time.


--
Scott
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Sorry to hear about Justin Everrett. I also wear chest waders and it
scares the heck out of me when fishing fast rivers.
The test that was done on waders here in roff really caught my
attention. I'm tempted to order one of those SOS Inflatable Floatation
Belt Pack.
http://www.orvis.com/store/product_c...dir_id=758&gro
up_id=10758&cat_id=10769&subcat_id=10770&feature_i d=17 -tom




I know there's the age-old debate about whether full waders impede motion
in the water. My own opinion is that they can't make things easier, and
that there is the potential that the wearer can get pushed about like a
boat with a drift sock.

I suspect, but can't be sure, that the biggest contributing factors to
many such tragic incidents are poor swimming skills in conjunction with
simple panic. I might look into the SOSpenders, eventually. I looked at
a wading staff as a c-note well spent on personal safety. I am concerned
that these inflatable PFD's might get in my way, though.
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Scott
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Poor swimming skills and panic attack might best describe me. I can swim,
but not in a fast moving current, and I have a feeling I would panic no
matter how much I try to keep myself calm. I think I'm going to do it, buy
the SOS Inflatable Floatation Belt Pack. I fish a lot of fast moving rivers.

I saw a documentary on survival, where this well fit male backpacker in his
30's had to float down a river for 1.5 miles in a medium flowing current by
clinching onto an inflatable pack mounted on the front of his chest. He
made it safe, but at the end of the 1.5 miles, he was pretty exhausted, he
could barely pull himself out of the water.
-tom


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Old June 7th, 2006, 10:36 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Tom Nakashima wrote:
"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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"Tom Nakashima" wrote in
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...
I was about 6 pools downstream from the Junction Pool when this
happened.
The water was big. I limited myself to mid-thigh wading, and
knee-level would have been much safer.

FWIW, everyone raved about the Roscoe emergency crew's response time.


--
Scott
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Sorry to hear about Justin Everrett. I also wear chest waders and it
scares the heck out of me when fishing fast rivers.
The test that was done on waders here in roff really caught my
attention. I'm tempted to order one of those SOS Inflatable Floatation
Belt Pack.
http://www.orvis.com/store/product_c...dir_id=758&gro
up_id=10758&cat_id=10769&subcat_id=10770&feature_i d=17 -tom




I know there's the age-old debate about whether full waders impede motion
in the water. My own opinion is that they can't make things easier, and
that there is the potential that the wearer can get pushed about like a
boat with a drift sock.

I suspect, but can't be sure, that the biggest contributing factors to
many such tragic incidents are poor swimming skills in conjunction with
simple panic. I might look into the SOSpenders, eventually. I looked at
a wading staff as a c-note well spent on personal safety. I am concerned
that these inflatable PFD's might get in my way, though.
--
Scott
Reverse name to reply


Poor swimming skills and panic attack might best describe me. I can swim,
but not in a fast moving current, and I have a feeling I would panic no
matter how much I try to keep myself calm. I think I'm going to do it, buy
the SOS Inflatable Floatation Belt Pack. I fish a lot of fast moving rivers.

I saw a documentary on survival, where this well fit male backpacker in his
30's had to float down a river for 1.5 miles in a medium flowing current by
clinching onto an inflatable pack mounted on the front of his chest. He
made it safe, but at the end of the 1.5 miles, he was pretty exhausted, he
could barely pull himself out of the water.
-tom


I'd definately recommend wearing a chest high belt cinched firm when
wading unknown, suspicios waters. You may slip but the belt *should*
keep the water from filling the waders. There are waders out there that
come with belt loops and a belt or as an optional purchase. I used to
do a lot of surf fishing on Cape Cod, and such a belt was considered a
necessity. It's my humble opinion that with waders full of water a Mark
Spits would have a hard time making it ashore.

Don't feel bad. ANYONE would be entirely justified being scared
birdless in such a situation. Think about using a wading belt as a
matter of habit.

David N.

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Scott Seidman typed:
"Tom Nakashima" wrote in
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...
I was about 6 pools downstream from the Junction Pool when this
happened.
The water was big. I limited myself to mid-thigh wading, and
knee-level would have been much safer.

FWIW, everyone raved about the Roscoe emergency crew's response
time.


Sorry to hear about Justin Everrett. I also wear chest waders and it
scares the heck out of me when fishing fast rivers.
The test that was done on waders here in roff really caught my
attention. I'm tempted to order one of those SOS Inflatable
Floatation Belt Pack.
http://www.orvis.com/store/product_c...dir_id=758&gro
up_id=10758&cat_id=10769&subcat_id=10770&feature_i d=17 -tom


I know there's the age-old debate about whether full waders impede
motion in the water. My own opinion is that they can't make things
easier, and that there is the potential that the wearer can get
pushed about like a boat with a drift sock.

I suspect, but can't be sure, that the biggest contributing factors to
many such tragic incidents are poor swimming skills in conjunction
with simple panic. I might look into the SOSpenders, eventually. I
looked at a wading staff as a c-note well spent on personal safety.
I am concerned that these inflatable PFD's might get in my way,
though.


Sad to hear of this, but I think the primary cause was wading beyond a safe
level, as you mentioned above. I have a fishing partner who regularly takes
water over the top of whatever he's wearing, whether it be calf-high,
hippers, or chest waders - he always goes one step beyond what he can safely
handle. The inside of my current waders, which I've had for several years,
have never seen any water at all save that of the washing machine. Another
thing is that I've seen a LOT of people use waders without a belt, including
my reckless friend. Not me. I always wear a snug belt whether or not I think
I'll be wading beyond knee-high water. Big water and slippery rocks scare me
and if that makes me a sissy, then so be it. At least I'm alive to be called
a sissy.

IIRC, Myron did a pool experiment regarding waders and taking on water a
year or so ago that would be worth revisiting on this occasion.
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Tim
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"Tim J." wrote in message
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IIRC, Myron did a pool experiment regarding waders and taking on water a
year or so ago that would be worth revisiting on this occasion.
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