The upside-down fly pattern

Today I have read an article about the upside-down fly design. Has any
one ever tied this pattern? Could you please share about your upside-
down fly pattern?

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On Feb 7, 9:13 am, "Da" wrote:
Today I have read an article about the upside-down fly design. Has any
one ever tied this pattern? Could you please share about your upside-
down fly pattern?



.....never heard of an upside down fly before.
What article did you read?
Where was the article?

salmobytes wrote:
"Da" wrote:
Today I have read an article about the upside-down fly design. Has any
one ever tied this pattern? Could you please share about your upside-
down fly pattern?

....never heard of an upside down fly before.
What article did you read?
Where was the article?

He could be talking about the Waterwisp.

http://www.waterwisp.com/

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:23:22 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

salmobytes wrote:
"Da" wrote:
Today I have read an article about the upside-down fly design. Has any
one ever tied this pattern? Could you please share about your upside-
down fly pattern?

....never heard of an upside down fly before.
What article did you read?
Where was the article?

He could be talking about the Waterwisp.

http://www.waterwisp.com/

I didn't see, so I didn't follow his link, and have no intention of
looking for it, but simply from the information at hand, I suspect he
may be talking about keel flies...there was at least one book in the 70s
about these...I've "tied" (really, made - it's more that a tie) snagless
Sallies for bass this way. Keels are a special-purpose fly/lure, on a
special hook, and unless recipe supports it and the reason is there,
there's, um, well, no reason. And in fact, simply tying any ol' fly
upside down can take a decent recipe and **** it up.

TC,
R

On Feb 7, 11:25 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:23:22 GMT, Ken Fortenberry

wrote:
salmobytes wrote:
"Da" wrote:
Today I have read an article about the upside-down fly design. Has any
one ever tied this pattern? Could you please share about your upside-
down fly pattern?

....never heard of an upside down fly before.
What article did you read?
Where was the article?

He could be talking about the Waterwisp.
And in fact, simply tying any ol' fly
upside down can take a decent recipe and **** it up.

If you choose to strictly follow other people's paterns and never try
to push your own creative fly tying ability, that's your loss. the fly
that i tie works just fine (reverse adams), as do many others that i
tie based on variations of other well known flies. If you chose to use
other people's designs thats fine, but don't discourage the
adventurous tier from attempting their own variations, by saying that
their "****ing up a decent recipe". not only is this ignorant, but
without new fly variations, we wouldn't have any fly patterns to begin
with.
jules, see you on the water.

On 8 Feb 2007 06:54:53 -0800, "jules" wrote:

On Feb 7, 11:25 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:23:22 GMT, Ken Fortenberry

wrote:
salmobytes wrote:
"Da" wrote:
Today I have read an article about the upside-down fly design. Has any
one ever tied this pattern? Could you please share about your upside-
down fly pattern?

....never heard of an upside down fly before.
What article did you read?
Where was the article?

He could be talking about the Waterwisp.
And in fact, simply tying any ol' fly
upside down can take a decent recipe and **** it up.

If you choose to strictly follow other people's paterns and never try
to push your own creative fly tying ability, that's your loss. the fly
that i tie works just fine (reverse adams), as do many others that i
tie based on variations of other well known flies. If you chose to use
other people's designs thats fine, but don't discourage the
adventurous tier from attempting their own variations, by saying that
their "****ing up a decent recipe". not only is this ignorant, but
without new fly variations, we wouldn't have any fly patterns to begin
with.

First, learn to edit if you're going to snip.

You may be right...since fly fishing and tying were only invented 6 or 8
years ago, how likely could it be that several unconnected someones
haven't already tried what you might and published books about it...why,
heck, I think you ought to try working on square baseballs, carts with
the wheels on the top rather than the bottom (saves wear and tear on the
tires, donchaknow), and a microwave oven that works by simply putting
the zappicure-de-jour on the kitchen counter while the cook gets in a
protective lead box....

Feel free to be as creative as wish, but fixing what isn't broken
doesn't demonstrate much "imagination." There are no "new concepts" in
fly-tying; there's a reason that you don't see more "upside-down" flies,
and the fact that _you_ haven't "adventured" and attempted or imagined
them yet ain't it. Hell, in much of what they tried to do, keel flies
(which weren't a new concept 40 years ago) worked, yet try to go and
find a package of keel hooks (and at one time, Mustad, Eagle Claw, and
3-4 others made them).

And I never said _no_ pattern will work adapted to an "upside-down" or
any other particular variation won't work, only that "tying any ol' fly
upside down can take a decent recipe and **** it up." I was right then,
and I'll be right after another 500-plus years of "modern-style"
flytying.

jules,

see you on the water.

Depends on where you fish.
R
....and come, on - an "adventurous" tyer? Please...unless your tying
consists of hand-ties using fresh black widow silk to lash large, live
raptors to razor-sharp grappling hooks while tiger-hunting from a howdah
on bull elephant that you personally selected for his short temper, you
ain't essactly Francis ****in' Drake-meets-Robert Ruark...

On Feb 8, 12:25�am, wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:23:22 GMT, Ken Fortenberry

wrote:
salmobytes wrote:
"Da" wrote:
Today I have read an article about the upside-down fly design. Has any
one ever tied this pattern? Could you please share about your upside-
down fly pattern?

....never heard of an upside down fly before.
What article did you read?
Where was the article?

He could be talking about the Waterwisp.

http://www.waterwisp.com/

I didn't see, so I didn't follow his link, and have no intention of
looking for it, but simply from the information at hand, I suspect he
may be talking about keel flies...there was at least one book in the 70s
about these...I've "tied" (really, made - it's more that a tie) snagless
Sallies for bass this way. *Keels are a special-purpose fly/lure, on a
special hook, and unless recipe supports it and *the reason is there,
there's, um, well, no reason. *And in fact, simply tying any ol' fly
upside down can take a decent recipe and **** it up.

TC,
R

Some searches on Google using the terms "upside down fly" and "USDB"
will return several pages. For starters you can take a look at:
http://hometown.aol.com/cebushnell/page17.html

it's gives a good review of the History of Upside Down Patterns as
well as some patterns.

Salmo

On 13 Mar 2007 22:07:44 -0700, wrote:

On Feb 8, 12:25?am, wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:23:22 GMT, Ken Fortenberry

wrote:
salmobytes wrote:
"Da" wrote:
Today I have read an article about the upside-down fly design. Has any
one ever tied this pattern? Could you please share about your upside-
down fly pattern?

....never heard of an upside down fly before.
What article did you read?
Where was the article?

He could be talking about the Waterwisp.

http://www.waterwisp.com/

I didn't see, so I didn't follow his link, and have no intention of
looking for it, but simply from the information at hand, I suspect he
may be talking about keel flies...there was at least one book in the 70s
about these...I've "tied" (really, made - it's more that a tie) snagless
Sallies for bass this way. eels are a special-purpose fly/lure, on a
special hook, and unless recipe supports it and 4he reason is there,
there's, um, well, no reason.
nd in fact, simply tying any ol' fly
upside down can take a decent recipe and **** it up.

TC,
R

Some searches on Google using the terms "upside down fly" and "USDB"
will return several pages. For starters you can take a look at:
http://hometown.aol.com/cebushnell/page17.html

it's gives a good review of the History of Upside Down Patterns as
well as some patterns.

Thanks for info.

TC,
R

Salmo

Ken Fortenberry wrote in news:eWnyh.16806
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salmobytes wrote:
"Da" wrote:
Today I have read an article about the upside-down fly design. Has any
one ever tied this pattern? Could you please share about your upside-
down fly pattern?

....never heard of an upside down fly before.
What article did you read?
Where was the article?

He could be talking about the Waterwisp.

http://www.waterwisp.com/


If I recall, didn't they develop a rep for driving the hook into the brain?

--
Scott
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"salmobytes" wrote


....never heard of an upside down fly before.
What article did you read?
Where was the article?


there are several variations out there ... all designed to keep the bend of
the hook up during the float. FWIW, all the ones I've tried sucked every
place except in the vise and in pictures, poor hookers, poor floaters.