Guides calling themselves "Captain"

Does anyone else find it silly to hear a fishing guide call himself
"Captain"? Maybe I'm just being nitpicky but it sure seems
pretentious to me. I was just looking at a fishing tabloid in which
Scott Martin has a column. He is listed as "Captain Scott Martin."

Dick Durbin
Tallahassee

"Olebiker" wrote in news:1173976170.440421.229290
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Does anyone else find it silly to hear a fishing guide call himself
"Captain"? Maybe I'm just being nitpicky but it sure seems
pretentious to me. I was just looking at a fishing tabloid in which
Scott Martin has a column. He is listed as "Captain Scott Martin."

Dick Durbin
Tallahassee



Wouldn't this mean that the guide has a Captain's license?

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On Mar 15, 11:39 am, Scott Seidman
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Wouldn't this mean that the guide has a Captain's license?

Do you need a Captain's license to operate a bass boat on fresh water?

"Olebiker" wrote in news:1173978556.184780.193430
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On Mar 15, 11:39 am, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Wouldn't this mean that the guide has a Captain's license?

Do you need a Captain's license to operate a bass boat on fresh water?



Probably not, but if you have a license, it's a title the holder is
entitled to use. It also infers you know a little bit more about
navigation and communication, in case you do some work on some larger
bodies, like the Great Lakes.

Some states have policies that let anybody guide, and other states have
stricter requirements. IMO, anything a good guide can do to clarify the
level of skill a sport can hire out is a good thing.


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Olebiker wrote:

On Mar 15, 11:39 am, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Wouldn't this mean that the guide has a Captain's license?


Do you need a Captain's license to operate a bass boat on fresh water?


If you are a guide, and charging money, then you do, at least in my
state. They also will hold a license that will cover the customers so
they don't have to buy a fishing license.

"Dan" wrote in message SNIP

If you are a guide, and charging money, then you do, at least in my state.
They also will hold a license that will cover the customers so they don't
have to buy a fishing license.

That's interesting, because here in Wisconsin, even if you are with a
licensed guide, as long as you're 16 years of age or older, you need a
fishing license, even if you're fishing just for one day. That's why they
sell three-day non-resident licenses.

Unless of course you're fishing on the "free day" that occurs once a year.
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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:
"Dan" wrote in message SNIP

If you are a guide, and charging money, then you do, at least in my state.
They also will hold a license that will cover the customers so they don't
have to buy a fishing license.


That's interesting, because here in Wisconsin, even if you are with a
licensed guide, as long as you're 16 years of age or older, you need a
fishing license, even if you're fishing just for one day. That's why they
sell three-day non-resident licenses.

Unless of course you're fishing on the "free day" that occurs once a year.

Here's the reg:

You do not need a license if you a

Any person fishing from a for-hire vessel (guide, charter, party boat)
that has a valid vessel license.

I omitted the rest - "under 16", etc.

I buy a three day non-resident license at least once a year for WI but
we are fishing on our own and technically on the MN side of the Mississippi.

Dan

Here you go...take a look at this

http://capmel.com/Capt_license.htm

You just don't get the ole 16 foot "Betty-Sue" out, throw a couple couple of
rods and a bucket of bait on it and call yourself a fishing guide. If you
are taking the safety of paying customers lives into your responsibility,
you got to be legit. And for insurance and liability requirements, you will
need the coast guard "6-Pack" license to charter paying
customers....legally.
Mike

"Olebiker" wrote in message
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Does anyone else find it silly to hear a fishing guide call himself
"Captain"? Maybe I'm just being nitpicky but it sure seems
pretentious to me. I was just looking at a fishing tabloid in which
Scott Martin has a column. He is listed as "Captain Scott Martin."

Dick Durbin
Tallahassee

On 15 Mar 2007 09:29:30 -0700, "Olebiker" wrote:

Does anyone else find it silly to hear a fishing guide call himself
"Captain"? Maybe I'm just being nitpicky but it sure seems
pretentious to me. I was just looking at a fishing tabloid in which
Scott Martin has a column. He is listed as "Captain Scott Martin."

I've got the real story for you because I was down there when
this was going on. This "ya gotta have a captain's license to be a
fishing guide" trend started back in the 80s down in Florida when some
of the bigger fishing businesses (ie. Nix's) were trying to force
other fishing guides out of business. The problem they were having
was that these bigger fishing businesses were trying to hire out as
many guides from "their" business as possible (ie. "I've got 17 guides
running tomorrow"). Not only did the fishing businesses get a take of
what the guides made, but they also made em' buy all their stuff from
their particular business. IMO, it was a pretty ugly business and I'm
sure much of it bordered on down-right criminal.

As a result of this, I know many people who would have nothing to
do with some of the businesses that were involved in trying to force
things like this through.

Taking the captain's license is a good idea for any guide on big
waters. However, trying to force out fishermen from being in the
guiding business...because they don't get a captain's license is wrong
IMO.

I knew several people that got a captain's license for Okeechobee
who didn't refer to themselves as a Captain blankety blank too. I
don't have anything against anyone that wants to call himself Captain
or Colonel or whatever...but it does sound a tad pretentious...unless,
of course, you are serving in the military...

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"Olebiker" wrote in message
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Does anyone else find it silly to hear a fishing guide call himself
"Captain"? Maybe I'm just being nitpicky but it sure seems
pretentious to me. I was just looking at a fishing tabloid in which
Scott Martin has a column. He is listed as "Captain Scott Martin."

Dick Durbin
Tallahassee


If I read the requirements correctly, anyone wishing to guide on a Federally
navigable waterway is required by the Coast Guard to have a Charter
Captain's License, hence the name. I used to guide for smallmouth bass on
Chequomegon Bay, part of Lake Superior. Because it falls under Coast Guard
protection, I found out I was required to have a Charter Captain's license.
It was a hassle for me to go two hours one way to get to the landing, and I
didn't want to deal with the added cost of getting the charter captain
license, so stopped guiding there and kept to inland waters closer to home.
But I could have been "Captain Steve." :-)
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