"New to fly fishing in need of some help"

This weekend I finally got a chance to try out my new fly rod. I
packed the rod and wife into the truck, and went to the local ball
field to start casting practice. After the first few try I really
started getting the hang of it. So now it was time to go try this
thing out, down at the creek. I wade out with this rod in my hand
(everyone seems to look at you funny when you are walking with a fly
rod by the way.) and started to cast out. I spend about three hours
of this, trying different flies, woolly buggers, and nymphs. I have
been doing some reading on line and have found a leader calculator. I
this weekend I plan to start to tie my own leaders. So with all that
out of the way finally my questions. How much does a leader effect
your presentation? I like to use heavy line and really don't care for
something that is going to snap my line if I put a fly into a tree. I
have been reading some fly require 2lb test at the tippet. It is
about a month now into opening season for trout and I just started
using artificial lures last season. What is the best lure to fly fish
with in the spring, summer, and fall? Where I fish there is some
faster moving water and I tend to stick around that type of scenario
when I go out. I see these guys pulling out there limit and am
turning up with 1 maybe 2. Is this the price of using artificial
lures are am doing sometime wrong? I need some help.

Where do you live, Minasizer? What kind of waters are you fishing?
Names of the streams? What rod weight are you using and what weight
fly line? What is a "heavy line"? Please don't tell us you are using
a 10 weight line on a 5 weight rod. d;o) Learn how to fly fish
before you tie your own leaders. Chances are you will like a
commercial leader/tippet set up. Match the fly to the leader. I
doubt you will be catching any 2 pound trout for awhile, so a 2 pound
leader/tippet should be ok. BTW, you should be able to land a 4 pound
trout on a 2 pound leader.

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This weekend I finally got a chance to try out my new fly rod. I
packed the rod and wife into the truck, and went to the local ball
field to start casting practice. After the first few try I really
started getting the hang of it. So now it was time to go try this
thing out, down at the creek. I wade out with this rod in my hand
(everyone seems to look at you funny when you are walking with a fly
rod by the way.) and started to cast out. I spend about three hours
of this, trying different flies, woolly buggers, and nymphs. I have
been doing some reading on line and have found a leader calculator. I
this weekend I plan to start to tie my own leaders. So with all that
out of the way finally my questions. How much does a leader effect
your presentation? I like to use heavy line and really don't care for
something that is going to snap my line if I put a fly into a tree. I
have been reading some fly require 2lb test at the tippet. It is
about a month now into opening season for trout and I just started
using artificial lures last season. What is the best lure to fly fish
with in the spring, summer, and fall? Where I fish there is some
faster moving water and I tend to stick around that type of scenario
when I go out. I see these guys pulling out there limit and am
turning up with 1 maybe 2. Is this the price of using artificial
lures are am doing sometime wrong? I need some help.


Minaszier,
you mentioned you see these guys pulling out their limit.
You many want to tell them you're just starting out and perhaps
they will give you a hand. There's nothing like advice on the water.
Another consideration, at your local fly-fishing store, ask about the
areas of interest to fish. Sometimes there are guide services available
for a cost, but it might be worth looking into.
good luck and enjoy the sport,
-tom

On Apr 25, 9:00 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
Where do you live, Minasizer? What kind of waters are you fishing?
Names of the streams? What rod weight are you using and what weight
fly line? What is a "heavy line"? Please don't tell us you are using
a 10 weight line on a 5 weight rod. d;o) Learn how to fly fish
before you tie your own leaders. Chances are you will like a
commercial leader/tippet set up. Match the fly to the leader. I
doubt you will be catching any 2 pound trout for awhile, so a 2 pound
leader/tippet should be ok. BTW, you should be able to land a 4 pound
trout on a 2 pound leader.

I live in Philadelphia PA, I fish the Wisahickon Creek and sometimes I
travel to Norristown and fish Stony Creek. The Wisahickon ranges from
about 1 to 6 feet in deep where I am fishing. I fish where there is
moving water. Stony creek is about 1 to 4 feet deep slower moving
than the the Wisahickon. My rod weight is 5 to 6 wt. I am use to a
spinner I use a 6lb test on that usually with a rooster tail. I am
using 333 as my fly line not to sure what it rated for I bought a
combo package at Dicks Sporting Goods. Is there a chart to match up
flies with leaders? I am very good at tieing knots and already have
fishing line from various sizes and test.

On Apr 26, 11:22 am, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
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This weekend I finally got a chance to try out my new fly rod. I
packed the rod and wife into the truck, and went to the local ball
field to start casting practice. After the first few try I really
started getting the hang of it. So now it was time to go try this
thing out, down at the creek. I wade out with this rod in my hand
(everyone seems to look at you funny when you are walking with a fly
rod by the way.) and started to cast out. I spend about three hours
of this, trying different flies, woolly buggers, and nymphs. I have
been doing some reading on line and have found a leader calculator. I
this weekend I plan to start to tie my own leaders. So with all that
out of the way finally my questions. How much does a leader effect
your presentation? I like to use heavy line and really don't care for
something that is going to snap my line if I put a fly into a tree. I
have been reading some fly require 2lb test at the tippet. It is
about a month now into opening season for trout and I just started
using artificial lures last season. What is the best lure to fly fish
with in the spring, summer, and fall? Where I fish there is some
faster moving water and I tend to stick around that type of scenario
when I go out. I see these guys pulling out there limit and am
turning up with 1 maybe 2. Is this the price of using artificial
lures are am doing sometime wrong? I need some help.

Minaszier,
you mentioned you see these guys pulling out their limit.
You many want to tell them you're just starting out and perhaps
they will give you a hand. There's nothing like advice on the water.
Another consideration, at your local fly-fishing store, ask about the
areas of interest to fish. Sometimes there are guide services available
for a cost, but it might be worth looking into.
good luck and enjoy the sport,
-tom- Hide quoted text -

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They all use live bait and spinners, I hardly see any fly rods on the
water. The local fishing shop: the guy that runs the place has some
screws loose. There is no tours of Philadelphia being given anytime
so with our growing crime rate. Thanks for the reply

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On Apr 25, 9:00 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
Where do you live, Minasizer? What kind of waters are you fishing?
Names of the streams? What rod weight are you using and what weight
fly line? What is a "heavy line"? Please don't tell us you are using
a 10 weight line on a 5 weight rod. d;o) Learn how to fly fish
before you tie your own leaders. Chances are you will like a
commercial leader/tippet set up. Match the fly to the leader. I
doubt you will be catching any 2 pound trout for awhile, so a 2 pound
leader/tippet should be ok. BTW, you should be able to land a 4 pound
trout on a 2 pound leader.

I live in Philadelphia PA, I fish the Wisahickon Creek and sometimes I
travel to Norristown and fish Stony Creek. The Wisahickon ranges from
about 1 to 6 feet in deep where I am fishing. I fish where there is
moving water. Stony creek is about 1 to 4 feet deep slower moving
than the the Wisahickon. My rod weight is 5 to 6 wt. I am use to a
spinner I use a 6lb test on that usually with a rooster tail. I am
using 333 as my fly line not to sure what it rated for I bought a
combo package at Dicks Sporting Goods. Is there a chart to match up
flies with leaders? I am very good at tieing knots and already have
fishing line from various sizes and test.

You already know more about fly fishing than those whose primary interest is
in finding out where you fish. You'll do well.

Don't worry about matching flies to leaders. You'll figure out very quickly
what works and what doesn't.

Your fly line is rated for the rod you bought it with.....or the folks at
Dick's are idiots.....um, well, o.k., they're idiots either way. It doesn't
matter.

Go out and fish. You will almost certainly catch very few fish at first.
It doesn't matter so long as you stick with it and think. You'll
improve....slowly....until, suddenly, one day everything works and you catch
a whole bunch of fish. This will be due almost entirely to the fact that
fish are sometimes driven by mysterious forces to engage in what would once
have been mass suicide (in the days before imposed creel limits), but it
won't stop you from becoming an instant expert and coming here to share your
hard-won knowledge with newbies and outdated experts.

Change your tippet frequently.

Wolfgang
oh, and being good at tying knots puts you WAY ahead of most beginners.

On 26 Apr 2007 16:42:49 -0700, wrote:

I live in Philadelphia PA, I fish the Wisahickon Creek and sometimes I
travel to Norristown and fish Stony Creek. The Wisahickon ranges from
about 1 to 6 feet in deep where I am fishing. I fish where there is
moving water. Stony creek is about 1 to 4 feet deep slower moving
than the the Wisahickon. My rod weight is 5 to 6 wt. I am use to a
spinner I use a 6lb test on that usually with a rooster tail. I am
using 333 as my fly line not to sure what it rated for I bought a
combo package at Dicks Sporting Goods. Is there a chart to match up
flies with leaders? I am very good at tieing knots and already have
fishing line from various sizes and test.

You happen to live in an area that is fished by one of the finer
fishermen denizen of this nut house, Tom Littleton. I'm sure he will
chime in at some time and help with your questions.

At first I thought you were a well known troll that is one of the less
finer denizens of roff, but you appear legit. If you bought your rod
and reel as a combo package, I am sure Dick's put the right line on
for you. There is a chart for matching flies to leaders. Many
leaders have this information printed on the back of the package. In
general, the smaller the fly the smaller the tippet. For example a 4x
tippet will balance with a size 12 - 16 fly, while a 6x tippet will
balance best with a size 16 - 22 fly. As you can see, there is
overlap, so many of us just fish a particular tipped size, like a 5x,
and fish flies from size 14 to 20. You can land very big fish on a 6x
tippet, so don't worry about breaking them off, although I am sure you
will. If you are chucking wooly buggers or streamers, a larger size
tippet (smaller number) would be best.

Knowing how to tie knots is half the battle. Your casting will
improve especially if you watch others or seek info from a guide or
other professional. I can't cast worth a damn, but I catch lots of
fish.

I hope Tom chimes in here and talks to you about the waters you fish.
He should be familiar with them. He is very generous with his
knowledge of waters, so I know he'll have some tips for you, and maybe
even recommend some that you have yet to fish.

Dave

I live in Philadelphia PA, I fish the Wisahickon Creek and sometimes I
travel to Norristown and fish Stony Creek. The Wisahickon ranges from
about 1 to 6 feet in deep where I am fishing. I fish where there is
moving water. Stony creek is about 1 to 4 feet deep slower moving
than the the Wisahickon. My rod weight is 5 to 6 wt. I am use to a
spinner I use a 6lb test on that usually with a rooster tail. I am
using 333 as my fly line not to sure what it rated for I bought a
combo package at Dicks Sporting Goods. Is there a chart to match up
flies with leaders? I am very good at tieing knots and already have
fishing line from various sizes and test.

You happen to live in an area that is fished by one of the finer
fishermen denizen of this nut house, Tom Littleton. I'm sure he will
chime in at some time and help with your questions.



On 26-Apr-2007, Dave LaCourse wrote:

At first I thought you were a well known troll that is one of the less
finer denizens of roff, but you appear legit ...

I wonder who he means by this ??
Please line up on the right side of the room

Fred

hey, bite me !
anonymous **** ouizel
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I live in Philadelphia PA, I fish the Wisahickon Creek and sometimes I
travel to Norristown and fish Stony Creek. The Wisahickon ranges from
about 1 to 6 feet in deep where I am fishing. I fish where there is
moving water. Stony creek is about 1 to 4 feet deep slower moving
than the the Wisahickon. My rod weight is 5 to 6 wt. I am use to a
spinner I use a 6lb test on that usually with a rooster tail. I am
using 333 as my fly line not to sure what it rated for I bought a
combo package at Dicks Sporting Goods. Is there a chart to match up
flies with leaders? I am very good at tieing knots and already have
fishing line from various sizes and test.

You happen to live in an area that is fished by one of the finer
fishermen denizen of this nut house, Tom Littleton. I'm sure he will
chime in at some time and help with your questions.



On 26-Apr-2007, Dave LaCourse wrote:

At first I thought you were a well known troll that is one of the less
finer denizens of roff, but you appear legit ...

I wonder who he means by this ??
Please line up on the right side of the room

Fred

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On Apr 26, 11:22 am, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
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This weekend I finally got a chance to try out my new fly rod. I
packed the rod and wife into the truck, and went to the local ball
field to start casting practice. After the first few try I really
started getting the hang of it. So now it was time to go try this
thing out, down at the creek. I wade out with this rod in my hand
(everyone seems to look at you funny when you are walking with a fly
rod by the way.) and started to cast out. I spend about three hours
of this, trying different flies, woolly buggers, and nymphs. I have
been doing some reading on line and have found a leader calculator. I
this weekend I plan to start to tie my own leaders. So with all that
out of the way finally my questions. How much does a leader effect
your presentation? I like to use heavy line and really don't care for
something that is going to snap my line if I put a fly into a tree. I
have been reading some fly require 2lb test at the tippet. It is
about a month now into opening season for trout and I just started
using artificial lures last season. What is the best lure to fly fish
with in the spring, summer, and fall? Where I fish there is some
faster moving water and I tend to stick around that type of scenario
when I go out. I see these guys pulling out there limit and am
turning up with 1 maybe 2. Is this the price of using artificial
lures are am doing sometime wrong? I need some help.

Minaszier,
you mentioned you see these guys pulling out their limit.
You many want to tell them you're just starting out and perhaps
they will give you a hand. There's nothing like advice on the water.
Another consideration, at your local fly-fishing store, ask about the
areas of interest to fish. Sometimes there are guide services available
for a cost, but it might be worth looking into.
good luck and enjoy the sport,
-tom- Hide quoted text -

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They all use live bait and spinners, I hardly see any fly rods on the
water. The local fishing shop: the guy that runs the place has some
screws loose. There is no tours of Philadelphia being given anytime
so with our growing crime rate. Thanks for the reply


then you are fishing water that is 'put and take', our taxes put the fish in
and they take them out....such inbreeding is bad for the fish for multiple
reasons....what you may want to do is get some nymphs tied to resemble
Purina Trout Pellets...

john