Furled Leaders Revisited

Tom Nakashima wrote:
I'm sorry you guys lost me, what are these tippet rings?

http://www.jsflyfishing.com/cgi-bin/...LL-295020-0000

Tippet rings are just what they sound like, little rings
between the leader and tippet. They're a neat innovation
and they came up in the discussion of furled leaders
because they're practically the only thing I like about
the furled leaders I bought recently.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

http://www.jsflyfishing.com/cgi-bin/...LL-295020-0000

I like the Roman Moser ones he
http://www.anglersupplyhouse.com/sho....asp?itemid=84

Tippet rings are just what they sound like, little rings
between the leader and tippet. They're a neat innovation
and they came up in the discussion of furled leaders
because they're practically the only thing I like about
the furled leaders I bought recently.

So have you ever tried a furled leader made from Unithread and
treated with Mucilin?


Chuck Vance

Conan The Librarian wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
http://www.jsflyfishing.com/cgi-bin/...LL-295020-0000

I like the Roman Moser ones he
http://www.anglersupplyhouse.com/sho....asp?itemid=84

Tippet rings are just what they sound like, little rings
between the leader and tippet. They're a neat innovation
and they came up in the discussion of furled leaders
because they're practically the only thing I like about
the furled leaders I bought recently.

So have you ever tried a furled leader made from Unithread and
treated with Mucilin?

No, the ones I have are all made of mono. I have tried
treating them with red Mucilin but it doesn't appear to
help much.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Conan The Librarian wrote:

So have you ever tried a furled leader made from Unithread and
treated with Mucilin?

No, the ones I have are all made of mono. I have tried
treating them with red Mucilin but it doesn't appear to
help much.

IMHO, the thread leaders are much better. Even when furled, mono
still has quite a bit of memory, and as you noted, Mucilin doesn't seem
to work on them.

I've been playing around with Coats & Clark nylon quilting thread
(0.005 diameter, IIRC) as well, and they seem to be more supple than
mono, and float better. But they're still not as nice as thread.

If you'd like to give a thread leader a try, let me know. I should
be able to whip up a couple for you over the weekend. I make really
light ones with 8/0 for small stream/rod fishing and regular trout
leaders from 6/0.

I tie a single surgeon's loop (for hanging for treating) or overhand
knot in the butt end to keep them from unraveling. Don't cut that until
you're ready to nail knot it to your line. :-)

I'll leave it to you to treat them and add your own tippet rings. :-)


Chuck Vance (furled leader pimp)

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Tom Nakashima wrote:

I'm sorry you guys lost me, what are these tippet rings?


http://www.jsflyfishing.com/cgi-bin/...LL-295020-0000

Tippet rings are just what they sound like, little rings
between the leader and tippet. They're a neat innovation
and they came up in the discussion of furled leaders
because they're practically the only thing I like about
the furled leaders I bought recently.


Is there any problems with the little rings sinking, and pulling the
tippet down with it.

brians

briansfly wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Tom Nakashima wrote:

I'm sorry you guys lost me, what are these tippet rings?


http://www.jsflyfishing.com/cgi-bin/...LL-295020-0000

Tippet rings are just what they sound like, little rings
between the leader and tippet. They're a neat innovation
and they came up in the discussion of furled leaders
because they're practically the only thing I like about
the furled leaders I bought recently.


Is there any problems with the little rings sinking, and pulling the
tippet down with it.

brians


And what about hinging? I think I'm missing something here. I don't see
how the work. What knots are reused?

Russell

Russell D. wrote:
briansfly wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Tom Nakashima wrote:

I'm sorry you guys lost me, what are these tippet rings?

http://www.jsflyfishing.com/cgi-bin/...LL-295020-0000

Tippet rings are just what they sound like, little rings
between the leader and tippet. They're a neat innovation
and they came up in the discussion of furled leaders
because they're practically the only thing I like about
the furled leaders I bought recently.

Is there any problems with the little rings sinking, and pulling the
tippet down with it.

brians


And what about hinging? I think I'm missing something here. I don't see
how the work. What knots are reused?


OK, I just went back and read Larry's description and have a better idea
of how these things work. I still wonder about hinging. Is the tippet
just not heavy enough to make that an issue? Does the tippet turn over well?

I've got to find me some. I'm for anything that makes tying on tippets
easier.

Russell

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Tom Nakashima wrote:
I'm sorry you guys lost me, what are these tippet rings?

http://www.jsflyfishing.com/cgi-bin/...LL-295020-0000

Tippet rings are just what they sound like, little rings
between the leader and tippet. They're a neat innovation
and they came up in the discussion of furled leaders
because they're practically the only thing I like about
the furled leaders I bought recently.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Geeze those tiny things?
I would need Rick Moran to come connect the fly for me.
Think I'll stick to the clinch knot.
-tom

Tom Nakashima wrote:

Geeze those tiny things?
I would need Rick Moran to come connect the fly for me.
Think I'll stick to the clinch knot.

Tippet rings are for attaching to leader to tippet. Flies still go
on the end of the tippet.

FWIW, it's a simple enough matter to take the needle you use for
clearing hook eyes, pick up a ring on that, slide your leader or tippet
between the ring and needle and tie off. I use an improved clinch of
four turns for the leader to tippet ring, and standard five-turn
improved clinch for ring to tippet.)

And to answer other posters' questions: I've never had a tippt ring
drag down a tippet or leader; they float quite well. Hinging hasn't
been a problem either.


Chuck Vance

Conan The Librarian wrote:
Tom Nakashima wrote:

Geeze those tiny things?
I would need Rick Moran to come connect the fly for me.
Think I'll stick to the clinch knot.

Tippet rings are for attaching to leader to tippet. Flies still go
on the end of the tippet.

FWIW, it's a simple enough matter to take the needle you use for
clearing hook eyes, pick up a ring on that, slide your leader or tippet
between the ring and needle and tie off. I use an improved clinch of
four turns for the leader to tippet ring, and standard five-turn
improved clinch for ring to tippet.)

And to answer other posters' questions: I've never had a tippt ring
drag down a tippet or leader; they float quite well. Hinging hasn't
been a problem either.


Chuck Vance

Thanks, Chuck. That clears things up. I've got to find me some.

Russell