Black Bear

Anyone have an authentic, traditional dressing for this Atlantic Salmon
fly from the maritime states? It's also used in the northwest, and
often tied with a green or red butt, but I'm looking for the plain
unvarnished version.

A book reference would be great.

tia

Lazarus

Try this site (a great fly tying site) and search for "black bear". You
will find five excellent tiers' versions

'Flytier's Page' (http://tinyurl.com/38b7t4)

When I fished Newfoundland this summer the Black Bear green butt was
the most recommended wet fly by a long shot, with many guys adding a
little glitter ala the Glitter Bear with the similar Jackies Special
(aka Jack S**t) doing the trick too.

The local Newfoundland tiers do these real simple.


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Tag: small oval silver tinsel
Tail: black bear hair-preferrably spring cub
Butt: fluorescant green floss or silk
Body: peacock herl
Rib: small oval silver tinsel
Throat: black hen hackles tied as a collar and pulled down as a throat
Wing: black bear hair-preferrably spring bear cub


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Many thanks guys - I really appreciate this.

Lazarus

On 14 Sep, 23:45, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:
Many thanks guys - I really appreciate this.

Lazarus

Have seen a few patterns for it, from my notes;

Black Bear
hook salmon w/f
hook size(s) 1/0-12
thread black
tag oval silver tinsel
tip fluorescent green wool
tail golden pheasant crest
body black floss or wool
rib oval silver tinsel
throat black hackle - collared
wing black bear hair

Black Bear - Green Butt
hook Orvis single or double salmon
hook size(s) 2-10
thread black monocord
tag flat silver tinsel
tail black squirrel
butt flourescent green floss
rib flat silver tinsel
body black floss
throat black squirrel
wing black squirrel

Pic here; http://www.americanflyfishing.com/Fl...lack+Bear.html

and he

http://www.riverbum.com/Black-Bear-Green-Butt/



There are a couple of patterns for it in Terry Helleksons´s "Fish
Flies" Vol 2. According to him it was developed in the early 1950´s
by Al Knudson while he was living in Everett, Washington. The original
pattern had black bear hair for the wing.

Pattern is ( under "steelhead flies")

Hooks AC80500BL, AC805001BL, TMC 7999, or Dai24441, sizes 1...8
Thread: Black
Tail: Black and crimson red hackle barbs mixed
Ribbing: Oval silver tinsel
Body: Black Chenille
Hackle: Black and crimson red tied on as a collar mixed and tied back
and down.
Wing: Black calf tail tied over the body
head:Black

Salmon Pattern given in same book is;

Thread : Black
Tip: Oval gold tinsel
Tail: Black hackle barbs
Ribbing: Oval gold tinsel
Body: Dubbed with #1 black lamb´s wool
Hackle: Black tied on as a collar, and tied back and down
Wing: Black moose hair, tied low over teh body
Head: Black.

Green Butt, Red butt, and Orange butt, are the same except for a
fluorescent yarn butt of the designated colour.

TL
MC

In article . com, Mike
wrote:

On 14 Sep, 23:45, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:
Many thanks guys - I really appreciate this.

Lazarus

Have seen a few patterns for it, from my notes;

Black Bear
hook salmon w/f
hook size(s) 1/0-12
thread black
tag oval silver tinsel
tip fluorescent green wool
tail golden pheasant crest
body black floss or wool
rib oval silver tinsel
throat black hackle - collared
wing black bear hair

Black Bear - Green Butt
hook Orvis single or double salmon
hook size(s) 2-10
thread black monocord
tag flat silver tinsel
tail black squirrel
butt flourescent green floss
rib flat silver tinsel
body black floss
throat black squirrel
wing black squirrel

Pic here;
http://www.americanflyfishing.com/Fl...lack+Bear.html

and he

http://www.riverbum.com/Black-Bear-Green-Butt/



There are a couple of patterns for it in Terry Helleksons¥s "Fish
Flies" Vol 2. According to him it was developed in the early 1950¥s
by Al Knudson while he was living in Everett, Washington. The original
pattern had black bear hair for the wing.

Pattern is ( under "steelhead flies")

Hooks AC80500BL, AC805001BL, TMC 7999, or Dai24441, sizes 1...8
Thread: Black
Tail: Black and crimson red hackle barbs mixed
Ribbing: Oval silver tinsel
Body: Black Chenille
Hackle: Black and crimson red tied on as a collar mixed and tied back
and down.
Wing: Black calf tail tied over the body
head:Black

Salmon Pattern given in same book is;

Thread : Black
Tip: Oval gold tinsel
Tail: Black hackle barbs
Ribbing: Oval gold tinsel
Body: Dubbed with #1 black lamb¥s wool
Hackle: Black tied on as a collar, and tied back and down
Wing: Black moose hair, tied low over teh body
Head: Black.

Green Butt, Red butt, and Orange butt, are the same except for a
fluorescent yarn butt of the designated colour.

TL
MC

Many thanks, mike. I get the impression (only from notes on the web)
that although it's been used a lot in the northwest, it was originally
an atlantic fly - very similar to a stoat's tail. I was going to say
that it was a really long time ago, not the fifties, and then I
realized that the fifties *were* a long time ago.

Ah dear.

thanks again

Lazarus