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Old December 10th, 2007, 06:08 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Tom Nakashima
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I've been watching the "New Fly Fisher" which broadcast Sunday
mornings. Yesterday I learned that if you turn a fish upside down
while they're in the water, they'll lose equilibrium and won't struggle.
Makes it easy to unhook and release them.
-tom


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Old December 10th, 2007, 06:15 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
daytripper
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:08:45 -0800, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:

I've been watching the "New Fly Fisher" which broadcast Sunday
mornings. Yesterday I learned that if you turn a fish upside down
while they're in the water, they'll lose equilibrium and won't struggle.
Makes it easy to unhook and release them.
-tom


That's a well known way to avoid having to use a net. Coupled with a barbless
hook it's about the least stressful way to turn a caught fish loose...

/daytripper (Keep watching, all kinds of neat tricks out there :-)
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Old December 10th, 2007, 06:30 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"daytripper" wrote


to avoid having to use a net. Coupled with a barbless
hook it's about the least stressful way to turn a caught fish loose...

/daytripper (Keep watching, all kinds of neat tricks out there :-)




it does work very well

BUT

I still carry a net on waters where bigger fish are a real possibilty ....
the net allows me to subdue a big, hot, fish, faster, when he's not so
tired yet. I can get him in a net sooner than I would be able to "grab"
him. Once in the net and still thrashing, I turn him upside down to make
dehooking easier .... and it's been a few years since I fished with a barbed
hook ( yeah I "early release" a few more than I did with barbed hooks, but
that isn't a big deal )




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Old December 10th, 2007, 06:42 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Larry L" wrote in message
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"daytripper" wrote


to avoid having to use a net. Coupled with a barbless
hook it's about the least stressful way to turn a caught fish loose...

/daytripper (Keep watching, all kinds of neat tricks out there :-)




it does work very well

BUT

I still carry a net on waters where bigger fish are a real possibilty ....
the net allows me to subdue a big, hot, fish, faster, when he's not so
tired yet. I can get him in a net sooner than I would be able to "grab"
him. Once in the net and still thrashing, I turn him upside down to
make dehooking easier .... and it's been a few years since I fished with a
barbed hook ( yeah I "early release" a few more than I did with barbed
hooks, but that isn't a big deal )



Yes, that's exactly what the angler did, get the fish in the net first,
then turn it upside down to unhook and release.
I didn't know a fish would lose equilibrium in water if they were
turned upside down.
Man doesn't lose equilibrium in water.
-tom


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Old December 10th, 2007, 06:51 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Tom Nakashima" wrote

Man doesn't lose equilibrium in water.
-tom



You have OBVIOUSLY NEVER seen me attempt to wade


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Old December 10th, 2007, 06:53 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Tom Nakashima
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"Larry L" wrote in message
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"Tom Nakashima" wrote

Man doesn't lose equilibrium in water.
-tom



You have OBVIOUSLY NEVER seen me attempt to wade


LOL...
Hey, my friend fantasizes of banging a mermaid someday,
I better tell him to be on top.
-tom


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Old December 10th, 2007, 07:03 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
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Man doesn't lose equilibrium in water.


Not true.

Wolfgang


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Old December 10th, 2007, 07:07 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Tom Nakashima
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
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Man doesn't lose equilibrium in water.


Not true.

Wolfgang


You're right,
Man can lose equilibrium out of water as well.
-tom


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Old December 10th, 2007, 07:19 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Scott Seidman
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"Wolfgang" wrote in news:5s5gs2F153pe0U1
@mid.individual.net:


"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
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Man doesn't lose equilibrium in water.


Not true.

Wolfgang



Correct. The semicircular canals have no problem, but the otolith organs
get confused because there is a bouyancy in addition to gravity. How
this manifests is interesting, but the bottom line is that a diver can
become very disoriented in water, enough that the most reliable way of
telling "which way is up" is to follow your air bubbles.

It's much like microgravity during space travel. Oddly, divers don't get
microgravity sickness like 50% of the astronauts, but that might have
something to do with the lenght of exposure.

One of the things that really gets astronauts hurling is odd visual cues.
Some of the compartments on the space station and shuttle, for example,
have different "up" directions, simply because thats how the things were
built. Walking (or floating) from a room with one orientation to the
next with different orientation could very well be the trigger for the
ride on the porcelain bus.

Underwater, though, I suppose visual cues can be very limited, and this
might contribute to disorientation.

I don't know why fish go into some sort of paralytic state when held
upside down, but it might be vestibular. Would be very interesting to
find out, anyway.

--
Scott
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Old December 10th, 2007, 06:44 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Tom Nakashima
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"daytripper" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:08:45 -0800, "Tom Nakashima"

wrote:

I've been watching the "New Fly Fisher" which broadcast Sunday
mornings. Yesterday I learned that if you turn a fish upside down
while they're in the water, they'll lose equilibrium and won't struggle.
Makes it easy to unhook and release them.
-tom


That's a well known way to avoid having to use a net. Coupled with a
barbless
hook it's about the least stressful way to turn a caught fish loose...

/daytripper (Keep watching, all kinds of neat tricks out there :-)


Great to learn new things.
-tom


 




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