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This was touched on in another thread
I am inrterested in buying one to use on small rivers and lakes - esp our own lake How safe are thety on rivers? I have to be able to fit them (2) in the back of an SUV I want to be higher up - sitting and casting than a float tube I would like to be able to carry xtra gear Any suggestions? Any to stay way from? I know that they sell this in Wal-mart's But I am no Wal-mart shopper i would rather pay more money to get a good one line or at a sporting goods store What about the water strider? |
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![]() "rw" wrote Some are better than others on rivers. I suggest that you call Buck's Bags in Boise and ask their advice. They make very good boats, IMO. They're pricey, but that's the cost of quality. I would 'second' rw's Buck's Bags comments ... very high quality ... |
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![]() wrote How safe are thety on rivers? I have to be able to fit them (2) in the back of an SUV I want to be higher up - sitting and casting than a float tube I would like to be able to carry xtra gear Any suggestions? Well, I "always" post this link in such threads http://www.bigskyinflatables.com/ Having down that I usually add MY own experiences and OPINIONS Fred, I was looking for a 'portable watercraft' since I travel all summer and sometimes need a way to float ( doh ) To me 'portable' was a key word I own an 8 foot Outback pram built especially for fly fishing. I own a Buck's Bag float tube I have tried three different brands of pontoon style 'portable' inflatable craft I MUCH prefer my WaterMaster over the others, although it, like all such craft, has it's own weaknesses and strengths. MY view of them, honestly presented is: Great portability ... the whole damn thing goes into a 'backpack,' boat, oars, pump, ... fins, and waders if you want ... and can easily go from completely deflated and packed to ON THE WATER in 10 minutes, no sweat. I HAVE taken THREE of them and the three anglers the short distance needed for shuttle in a Honda Civic ( it was crowded and only reasonable for a few miles, but we did it ). The Hebgen thread may have sparked your interest so, a true Hebgen story story I fished Hebgen one day in my WaterMaster and as the spinner fall petered out I started rowing to shore. I noticed a couple with pontoons a bit ahead of me. We beached at the same place about the same time and the man in the couple went and got their SUV and drove it right to the water's edge. I hopped out of the WaterMaster and popped open both air valves and then walked up the hill to my truck. There, I took off all my gear and put away my rod then went back to get my boat. The couple was fighting to get one of the pontoons on their car, already having put away their other stuff. I folded the WM, put it in it's bag, carried it up to the truck and put it away. I was ready to drive off but walked back to the water to make sure I hadn't dropped anything and to volunteer, " Need any help getting that on top." as the FIRST of the two pontoons was still not in place and getting the second one up there looked like a tough gig. The 'guy' erupted at me violently about "I can do and I don't need any god-damned help." Every time I see someone pulling a little trailer with a pontoon on it or fighting like hell to get one or two lashed to the top of a car I wonder, "What part of 'portable' don't these people understan." /story The WM is an honest 10 minutes to completely 'assemble' or disassemble' ... I never put mine into the truck without packing it, simply because it's so fast there is no need, even though it would fit into the bed or on top like my pram GREAT carrying capacity ... 500 or 700 pounds for the two models I have GREAT moving water safety ... If the link still has a photos section, check it out ..... I'm chicken**** and I've used it in class 3 waters Being able to stand up without achoring the boat is a huge advantage ... the WM surrounds you but doesn't get in the way and you can barely feel it pulling in the current .... the first time you just "step overboard" to fish a riffle is a bit un-nerving but you quickly learn to do it with full faith .... AND you can wade "in" the craft and thus get to places you'd ( ok, "I'd" ) never have the balls to try and wade to without the boat around you. Fishing FROM any moving personal craft on a river is over-rated ... generally you just use the craft to get there then wade or anchor, the WM WAY out performs a pontoon at the wading part, as a pontoon will get away from you unless you anchor it or beach it. -------------------------------- Downsides: You sit higher than in a tube but NOT as high as in a pontoon. I usually manage to row about as fast as the pontoon users near me, without trying in any way to 'race' but I have lots of rowing experience .... a pontoon DOES row easier ... especially if you need to move UPstream. The WaterMaster is very pricey ... but, it is built exactly like full sized whitewater rafts in materials and construction ... the first time you feel one in the flesh you will have complete confidence in it. ----------------------------- They are ( I believe you are in Kalispel? ) "just down the road from you" The company changed hands since I got mine, but they used to have a wonderful "we want you to try it" attitude and I believe still do ... I'd call first but I bet they'd loan you one for a day or two. When I bought mine I did so over the 'net and it was with a complete, "try it 30 days, no questions asked" return policy ... did I return it ? .... no I bought two others to equip the whole family (one has since been sold, not all family members are as interested in fishing as 'dad', but I still travel with two all summer so I can float with people I meet ... "portable" is a key word :- ) ALL normal disclaimers apply .... I have no connection to the company and nothing to gain from my review of their product |
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![]() "Larry L" wrote in GREAT moving water safety ... If the link still has a photos section, check it out ..... I'm chicken**** and I've used it in class 3 waters I went and checked and they do have photos .... I'm connection speed deprived so I only looked at the thumbnails on the first page .... the one of the guy standing brings up a point, which is, you can to get well up there on a stillwater, ( well some can, MY knee and balance won't allow it .... I have done it but didn't feel secure ... by the same token I no longer feel secure standing in my pram, either, my tendancy to topple is just too great .... I walk with a cane, somedays, on level paved ground ) |
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briansfly wrote:
3 brands come to mind, as quality boats. Outcast, Dave Scadden, and Buck's Bag. I'm sure there are others, but these are the ones I looked at when I was planning a purchase. I went with a Scadden, Skykomish Sunrise, because of some features it had over the other models. http://www.northforkoutdoors.com/homepagedirectory.html I've been pretty happy with it, and it's been getting quite a bit of use(stillwater)lately. My boat would be "safe" in rivers(class IV-V), with somebody qualified at the oars. I'm not, and struggle in tricky situations. Mine is a big boat, and it would have to be taken apart, to fit IN an SUV. Complete setup time...including time to pump up 2 boats(4 pontoons), would be close to an hour. Less if you had the frames assembled, and toons partially inflated. By the way, it's sportsman show season. You might finds some good deals now. brians I have an outcast. I Like it. I carry it in the back of a smallish SUV, unassembled. I inflate the pontoons when I get to the water, and assemble the boat there. It takes 6 cotter pins to hold it together. All-in-all, assembly takes about 10 - 15 minutes. They are safe on moving water, but you wouldn't fish from one unless you were in still water. I use it for access on rivers. They are great in lakes. Tim Lysyk |
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On Jan 2, 4:04*pm, briansfly wrote:
I went with a Scadden, Skykomish Sunrise, because of some features it had over the other models. I fell in love with that one at a the College Park FFing show a few years back. Never did buy a pontoon boat; but if I had..... Joe F. |
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This was touched on in another thread I am inrterested in buying one to use on small rivers and lakes - esp our own lake How safe are thety on rivers? For a river with any appreciable white water, I'd opt for a pontoon rig that was more of a classic cataraft than the sorts of kickboats people use on lakes. These are expensive, but very good (look at the other models, too, under "Product Line"): http://www.steelheader.com/guide.htm - JR |
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Thanks for all the help guys
It is appreciated Regardless of the flaming and other BS Roff is still a vauable group Sincerely Fred |
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